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Re: Hashimoto: no sex slaves please, we're Japanese

Postby Takechanpoo » Sun Jan 03, 2016 11:11 am

Girls in Japan’s War Brothels

To the Editor:

“Apology, if Not Closure, for ‘Comfort Women’ ” (front page, Dec. 29) describes an agreement meant to settle the dispute over the “Korean women” who were “lured or coerced to work in brothels” for Japanese soldiers during World War II.

As survivors have testified, many targets of this brutal system of sexual slavery were not “women,” but girls of 13 or 14. Many had not even begun menstruating when they were shipped as human cargo to battlefronts across Asia and subjected to daily rape.

These were not only war crimes, but crimes of child sex trafficking. Until they are represented as such in textbooks in Japan — and in news articles in the West — there is no true justice for these victims.

MARGARET D. STETZ

Newark, Del.

The writer, a professor of women’s studies at the University of Delaware, is co-editor of “Legacies of the Comfort Women of World War II.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/01/opini ... .html?_r=0

her claim is partly true. but why on earth, as usual, do this kind of people try applying a partial truth to the entire?
its also a partial truth that some of comfort women are professional whores who earned tons of money.
and why the parents sold their daughters to j-army brothels, not private ones is that it was trusted that j-army brothels at least were sure to pay money unlike private ones.
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Re: Hashimoto: no sex slaves please, we're Japanese

Postby Takechanpoo » Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:37 pm

some k-youngers are protesting and claiming for compensation...excuse me, japan already paied it a long time ago but their government pocketed it. it cannot help but amaze me that they are confidently protesting while even dont know such a basic knowledge about this issue.
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Re: Hashimoto: no sex slaves please, we're Japanese

Postby Wage Slave » Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:43 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:her claim is partly true. but why on earth, as usual, do this kind of people try applying a partial truth to the entire?
its also a partial truth that some of comfort women are professional whores who earned tons of money.
and why the parents sold their daughters to j-army brothels, not private ones is that it was trusted that j-army brothels at least were sure to pay money unlike private ones.


I truly hope, for all our sakes, that the Japanese Government are not silly enough to argue this. It's absurd - Like a person caught shoplifting protesting to the court that everyone is ignoring all the times s/he paid for goods and is just unfairly focusing on the time they didn't and got caught.
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Re: Hashimoto: no sex slaves please, we're Japanese

Postby kurogane » Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:21 am

To be fair to Takeapoo, that is solid East Asian Male Think: any contradiction or discrepancy nullifies any truth to the argument in toto............if you oppose the argument in question. Inconsistencies are only acceptable if you agree with the basic argument. It's like Special Olympians running against Usain Bolt and claiming he cheated because he's really good. Or not...........

This is turning into a real shiite show. The pissy perps are demanding actions not specified in the agreement, and the pissy victims are, well, still pissy. I am genuinely disappointed they managed to fuck things up so royally.
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Re: Hashimoto: no sex slaves please, we're Japanese

Postby matsuki » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:20 am

kurogane wrote:This is turning into a real shiite show. The pissy perps are demanding actions not specified in the agreement, and the pissy victims are, well, still pissy. I am genuinely disappointed they managed to fuck things up so royally.


Pretty much THIS

All this mess did was serve to amplify the pissyness. (and give the worse Koreans another excuse to go nationalistic and hate Japanese)
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Re: Hashimoto: no sex slaves please, we're Japanese

Postby Takechanpoo » Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:23 am

its pretty ironic that the opinions of english medias about this issue apparently gradually have been getting to close to the ones of japan side which they have labelled far-right or revisionist. it means if you investigate the documents and face what truely happened, you cannot but help be on the side of japan more or less. and there are the documents both of japan and of usa firmly kept, in which describe that at least part of those comfort women are professional voluntary prostitutes. nobody can deny it.

korea side has been insisting that there are tons of evidences indicating that j-soldiers suddenly rushed into local villages and directly systematically kidnapped 200000 of screaming girls(nobody yet has indicate the grounds of the number 200000!). but they never have shown those evidences. actually all of the "new" informations written in the brochure which k-government prepared to disturb Abes parliament speech in washington are previously covered and already finished to scrutinize by japan side a long time ago. if they really have tons of evidences indicating direct organized kidnapping by j-soldiers, they should show it in public and thoroughly rebut japans claim. they should have done it from the beginning. but they never do it. instead all they can do is simply repeat political performance forever. western medias report it without verifying and not a few world people naively believe the claims of k-side. people are easily influenced and controlled by stereotype, collective emotions and labeling made by medias
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Re: Hashimoto: no sex slaves please, we're Japanese

Postby Takechanpoo » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:42 pm

koreans, who never want to abandon victim card, plan to demonstrate against this time agreement in north america, europe, australia etc.
im looking forward to seeing how world ppl interpret koreans schizophrenic reckless rushness which will expand every part of the world from now on.
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Re: Hashimoto: no sex slaves please, we're Japanese

Postby matsuki » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:48 pm

If the protest is against Abe's after the fact demand, not so sure you'll get the reactions you expect.
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Re: Hashimoto: no sex slaves please, we're Japanese

Postby kurogane » Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:57 pm

The statue removal condition was an after the fact condition not agreed to in the joint text but the Korean statements since seem to suggest it was a tacit agreement. Non-removal is a massive slap in the face to the people that just agreed to pay compensation to people who were supposed to be paid compensation by their own government out of the compensation previously paid to that government by the people who have now generously agreed to pay more compensation. If the Koreans had any dignity, humanity, or grace they would agree to move it to a less provocative location. Why can't they just put it outside the old Imperial Palace the Japanese burned down and get everything in one place?
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Re: Hashimoto: no sex slaves please, we're Japanese

Postby matsuki » Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:33 pm

kurogane wrote:The statue removal condition was an after the fact condition not agreed to in the joint text but the Korean statements since seem to suggest it was a tacit agreement. Non-removal is a massive slap in the face to the people that just agreed to pay compensation to people who were supposed to be paid compensation by their own government out of the compensation previously paid to that government by the people who have now generously agreed to pay more compensation. If the Koreans had any dignity, humanity, or grace they would agree to move it to a less provocative location. Why can't they just put it outside the old Imperial Palace the Japanese burned down and get everything in one place?


Agreed...but in my school of PR, I don't think Japan should stop payment over this. Korea looks far worse if they get paid and leave that shit up.
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Re: Hashimoto: no sex slaves please, we're Japanese

Postby kurogane » Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:49 pm

Agreed, but this is serious Pissy Old LDP Monkey Man face shit that exploded after the fact, me thinks. The backroom boys and the vocal Silent Majority might not let it pass without Abe agreeing to look tough, even though he then looks just as stupid and childish. The real problem here is that the issue has become one of purely domestic consumption on both sides. Nobody really gives a flying fuckme about those poor ladies; that's probably the real disappointment here: it's all just show and tell, and nobody ever really cared about the victims. Look at the way our resident baboon brain talks about those poor women. He's almost as bad as that media mouth whore Sakurai.
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Re: Hashimoto: no sex slaves please, we're Japanese

Postby Takechanpoo » Thu Jan 07, 2016 6:51 pm

The leading scholar in China on comfort women, Su Zhiliang, of Shanghai Normal University, told me the number of victims may be much higher -- 400,000 -- with 200,000 Chinese women forced to work as unpaid prostitutes.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/30/opini ... ort-women/

With this agreement, South Korea and Japan are attempting to put behind an issue that has long plagued relations between the two nations. As many as 400,000 women, according to one study, were said to have been sent to military brothels stationed in various Japanese-occupied regions in Asia during World War II.

http://fortune.com/2015/12/28/japan-sou ... ort-women/

suddenly increased by 2X
why the fuck english medias report those "scholars" opinions without verification?
how many times will they repeat the same thing?
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Re: Hashimoto: no sex slaves please, we're Japanese

Postby Russell » Thu Jan 07, 2016 7:42 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:how many times will they repeat the same thing?

That's actually a question I wanted to ask you...
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Re: Hashimoto: no sex slaves please, we're Japanese

Postby matsuki » Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:46 am

Ehhhh, how many J-troopers were there? At a certain point, the claims of insane number and each woman servicing X number of troops per day hits a wall of logic.
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Re: Hashimoto: no sex slaves please, we're Japanese

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:06 pm

matsuki wrote:Ehhhh, how many J-troopers were there? At a certain point, the claims of insane number and each woman servicing X number of troops per day hits a wall of logic.



Apparently the army had "6,095,000 men at its height."
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Re: Hashimoto: no sex slaves please, we're Japanese

Postby kurogane » Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:27 pm

matsuki wrote:Ehhhh, how many J-troopers were there? At a certain point, the claims of insane number and each woman servicing X number of troops per day hits a wall of logic.


What the number of troops per day figures hit is a wall of disbelief. I remember reading that the numbers were one of the few bits that seems to work. Also, keep in mind we're talking about the subhuman monkeys of the IJAF; they were effectively just fucking them to death, some just happened to survive. The IJAF troops were themselves so dehumanised they were little more than animals on 2 legs, though that isn't an excuse of course. I think they're better now, but under the right circumstances far too many Japanese men are still little better than rabid dogs let loose in a chicken coop.

The real problem here is that the Koreans are almost always whiney mutts: they need to be told to STFU and learn they were beaten whether they deserved it or not, and Obama should kick their garlic stinking asses hard enough to make them, as he's obviously the backroom arm twister in chief on this deal.
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Re: Hashimoto: no sex slaves please, we're Japanese

Postby Takechanpoo » Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:55 pm

most of j-soldiers were extremely starving and literally became skin and bones in the whole war time because empire j-army unbelievably(!) didnt have the system of military logistics. so some of them even had to cannibalize allys soldiers, the locals and even other j-soldiers to survive. in that extreme state, normally ppl get horny so much? i highly doubt. some comfort women said they had to fuck with 100 j-soldiers per day in their testimonies. if that testimony is true......400,000 x 100 = 40,000,000. what on earth a great bloodcurdling j-libidos!!! :rofl:
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Re: Hashimoto: no sex slaves please, we're Japanese

Postby Takechanpoo » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:41 pm

a map of comfort whores statues
20160114-33.jpg

40 ones only in korea, 8 ones in merica and 1 in canada.
"We are always severely oppressed from over 1000 years ago NIDA! :twisted: "
kimchese aspect-blinded reckless rashness never cease to amaze me.
o-GISELA-MOTA-570.jpg

i do hope more all over the world :rofl:
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Re: Hashimoto: no sex slaves please, we're Japanese

Postby wagyl » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:37 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:a map of comfort whores statues
20160114-33.jpg

Proof!!!! That Koreans have not called it the East Sea consistently. The name "Korean Sea" sounds awfully derivative and reactionary......

(The hangul is Donghae/東海)
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Re: Hashimoto: no sex slaves please, we're Japanese

Postby Russell » Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:19 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:a map of comfort whores statues
20160114-33.jpg

40 ones only in korea, 8 ones in merica and 1 in canada.
"We are always severely oppressed from over 1000 years ago NIDA! :twisted: "
kimchese aspect-blinded reckless rashness never cease to amaze me.
o-GISELA-MOTA-570.jpg

i do hope more all over the world :rofl:

What's up with the one statue in Japan?!?
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Re: Hashimoto: no sex slaves please, we're Japanese

Postby wagyl » Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:45 pm

Russell wrote:What's up with the one statue in Japan?!?

More than 100 people united in Miyakojima City to pay homage to the ‘comfort women’ taken from their homes in Korea and forced to serve as sex slaves on Miyako Island. The city unveiled a cenotaph, a stone monument, that was offered as a prayer and memory monument in honor of the Korean women. Inscriptions were carved into the cenotaph in 12 languages, stating in English, “We remember the suffering of the individual women who were subjected to sexual violence by the Japanese military, lament the victims of wartime sexual violence throughout the entire world, pray for a peaceful world without any more war.”

http://www.japanupdate.com/archive/?id=8947
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Re: Hashimoto: no sex slaves please, we're Japanese

Postby Takechanpoo » Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:55 pm

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Dear Women
j-army built brothels all over asia pacific area. there were 130 brothels in okinawa, and at least 16 ones in miyako-jima. girls and women, being brought from japan, the colonies and occupied areas, were forced to live there as sex slaves.
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and 11 language and vietnamese language is added for vietnam women, who received damage from korean army in vietnam war.....
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Re: Hashimoto: no sex slaves please, we're Japanese

Postby dimwit » Sat Jan 16, 2016 2:27 am

Takechanpoo wrote:a map of comfort whores statues
20160114-33.jpg

40 ones only in korea, 8 ones in merica and 1 in canada.
"We are always severely oppressed from over 1000 years ago NIDA! :twisted: "
kimchese aspect-blinded reckless rashness never cease to amaze me.
o-GISELA-MOTA-570.jpg

i do hope more all over the world :rofl:


I might even be able to sympathize with you if Japan was willing to blow up the statue of this fucker.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masanobu_Tsuji

Funnily enough almost no one raises a squeak about having a statue of a admitted cannibal gracing their city. No controvery anywhere.
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Re: Hashimoto: no sex slaves please, we're Japanese

Postby Takechanpoo » Sat Jan 16, 2016 12:16 pm

tsuji and ishiwara kanji etc are undoubtedly heros for j-patriots in japan in the very same way as Curtis lemay for the counterparts in the states.
there is a big difference there that mostly soldiers the former killed while civilians, concretely innocent women and children the latter did, though.
in the carpet bombing j-cities, the latter dude ordered the subordinates to make fire walls surrounding the squares not to let j-civilians escape and to bomb inside the fire walls. that dude was called "鬼畜ルメイ", "皆殺しのルメイ" in post war japan. its the dude you should mind rather than tsuji.
tsuji is no problem at all except for being the side of loser.
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Re: Hashimoto: no sex slaves please, we're Japanese

Postby Wage Slave » Sat Jan 16, 2016 4:26 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:tsuji and ishiwara kanji etc are undoubtedly heros for j-patriots in japan in the very same way as Curtis lemay for the counterparts in the states.


In no way was he a counterpart - whatever else he may have been. The moral position and motivation of the two sides was completely different.

Two things that so called Japanese Patriots always choose to ignore and try to avoid at all costs:

1. The war was not something that just happened. Japan, ruled by a bunch of Fascists, was the aggressor. The war happened because Japan made it happen. Finally the misery caused by that war came home to haunt Japan. That is of course regrettable but the direct cause of that was The Imperial Japanese Army's actions and the murder, cruelty and misery inflicted millions of innocent people. If you want someone to blame for the terrible harvest, look to people like Tsuji who sowed the seeds.

2. The Potsdam Declaration. It was clear and unequivocal. What happened after it was ignored/defied could easily have been avoided. The Fascists choose not to avoid it and the Japanese people paid a terrible price for that selfish, ideologically driven decision.
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Postby TennoChinko » Sat Jan 16, 2016 6:42 pm

I know this has been posted before but still ... it's a real eye-opener:

Professor Park Yu Ha https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Park_Yu-ha

http://www.japantoday.com/category/podc ... an-version

Park Yuha and the Nuances of the Comfort Women


http://scholarsinenglish.blogspot.jp/20 ... -book.html

October 26, 2014
Summary of Professor Park Yuha's Book "Comfort Women of the Empire"


The following is a summary English translation of a book titled "Comfort Women of the Empire" by Professor Park Yuha of Sejong University in South Korea.

Preface

I first confronted the comfort women issue in 1991. It was near the end of my study in Japan. As a volunteer I was translating former Korean comfort women's testimonies for NHK. When I returned to South Korea, the nationalism was out of control. The anti-Japan lobby "Korean Council for the Women Drafted for Military Sexual Slavery" or "Chong Dae Hyup" (정대협 挺対協 in Korean) was formed by the South Korean communists. Its leader said publicly it was determined to defame Japan for the next 200 years. Its propaganda turned me off, so I stayed away from this issue for years. I regained my interest in this issue in the early 2000's when I heard that Chong Dae Hyup was confining surviving women in a nursing home called "House of Nanumu." The only time these women were allowed to talk to outsiders was when Chong Dae Hyup needed them to testify for the UN interrogators or the U.S. politicians. But for some reason I was allowed to talk to them one day in 2003. I could sense that women were not happy being confined in this place. One of the women (Bae Chun-hee) told me she reminisced the romance she had with a Japanese soldier and the sorrow when he died in combat. She said she hated her father who sold her. She also told me that women there didn't appreciate being coached by Chong Dae Hyup to give false testimonies but had to obey Chong Dae Hyup's order. When Japan offered compensation through Asian Women's Fund in 1995, 61 former Korean comfort women defied Chong Dae Hyup's order and accepted compensation. Those 61 women were vilified as traitors. Their names and addresses were published in newspapers as prostitutes by Chong Dae Hyup, and they had to live the rest of their lives in disgrace. So the rest of the women were terrified of Chong Dae Hyup and wouldn't dare to defy again. Chong Dae Hyup (some of its members had been arrested as North Korean spies) has used the comfort women issue for its political purpose, which is to drive a wedge into U.S.-Japan-South Korea security partnership.

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...the rest here... and an archived link in case it ever gets taken down: https://archive.is/MGkv3

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Re: Hashimoto: no sex slaves please, we're Japanese

Postby Takechanpoo » Sat Jan 16, 2016 9:34 pm

the confrontation between empire japan and merica began from manchuria in which empire japan monopolized the interests there against merican expectation. since it, merica started abusing and driving japan into a corner just like currently doing to russia. but unlike russia, unluckily japan didnt have own resources and then end up doing shooting rampage. it was apparently above the means that japan advanced into mainland china, needing huge resources. but regarding only j-side as evil is nothing but a legacy of propaganda.




SEOUL--A South Korean professor has been ordered to pay compensation to nine former "comfort women" after a district court ruled she had suggested in a book that they were prostitutes.

Park Yu-ha, a professor of modern Japanese literature at Sejong University, was ordered to pay 10 million won (970,500 yen, or $8,250) to each woman.

http://ajw.asahi.com/article/asia/korea ... 1601140040

i recently started to see korean internet forum by using google translation and i have to recognize that their view of japan is partly getting to be rational and objective to certain extent. on the other hand, unfortunately the view of korea in j-net forums is getting to be "koreanized" more and more. some of them even relate to korea in the topics which are not directly relevant to korea... :ninja:
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Postby wagyl » Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:22 pm

That is the first I have heard that America was involved in the Manchuria débâcle. I would be interested to hear more, with cites.
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Postby Takechanpoo » Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:06 am

merica intended to jointly manage manchuria with japan, especially Harriman had a plan to build railways there but empire japan made it null and void after occupied manchuria.
you really didnt know it?
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Re: Hashimoto: no sex slaves please, we're Japanese

Postby wagyl » Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:43 am

I asked for cites.....

http://www.jstor.org/stable/2050988?seq ... b_contents

I have had an interest in Japan's Manchuria adventure, and yes, this is the first I knew of this. I wonder two things: to what extent Harriman's pursuit of his own commercial interests could be said to be the interests of the nation state United States, and also just what influence those events in 1905 had on events in the thirties, especially since the United States and Japan were on the same side throughout their respective involvement in the intervening First World War. I think that Japan's reaction to what it saw as encirclement by the ABCD American, British, Chinese and Dutch (colonial) powers in the thirties had much much more to do with Manchuria than any proposal which didn't survive two weeks in 1905 in the rush to capitalise on the results of the Russo-Japanese War could ever do.

If the US had intended to jointly run the South Manchuria Railway with Japan, it had a strange way of going about it, in that it supported Russia's desire to not pay any reparations for the Russo-Japanese War, a desire that was made part of the peace treaty, brokered by the US. Note that the Harriman proposal came after the treaty had been signed.
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