It's official: Hookers don't count

[Samurai_Jerk]

Judging by all the married J-dudes I've run into here, banging their way through Bangkok, the "different country, don't count rule" is in full effect.

I think that's true for married dudes anywhere.

True...but going to bang hookers with your co-workers as a bonding exercise seems to be almost a requirement for J-companies. I've even heard from some older J-womens that they've gone out with the guys.

I haven't seen it go much beyond hostess or titty bars with a couple of exceptions but those were usually guys who lived way out in the burbs so instead of spending 15K on a cab ride after last train, they hit up a massage place when the rest of us left. More of a boys night out gone too far than a coerced bonding experience. It might be different if you work for a major firm though.

Anyway, that's getting away from my original point which is that in Japan it seems that sleeping around with civilians is looked down on more than paying for adult services. This is of course based purely on anecdotal evidence.

[Ol Dirty Gaijin]

Is it like when then older guys call their regular hostess girl a "girlfriend" when you know nothing is going on? If you keep it out of the house, don't care?

[inflames]

Having sex with some random woman means you might love her. Having sex with a prostitute means you're simply paying for a service and you're not going to fall in love with her.

Never have been able to understand the paying for sex thing.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Having sex with some random woman means you might love her. Having sex with a prostitute means you're simply paying for a service and you're not going to fall in love with her.

Never have been able to understand the paying for sex thing.

Which is why is makes sense that a married woman who has accepted that her husband is going to step out prefers a hooker over a mistress. However, that doesn't explain why a single guy who can pick up is seen as sleazier than a single guy who goes to Yoshiwara when he's horny.

[Mike Oxlong]

Having sex with some random woman means you might love her. Having sex with a prostitute means you're simply paying for a service and you're not going to fall in love with her.

Never have been able to understand the paying for sex thing.

Which is why is makes sense that a married woman who has accepted that her husband is going to step out prefers a hooker over a mistress. However, that doesn't explain why a single guy who can pick up is seen as sleazier than a single guy who goes to Yoshiwara when he's horny.

It's because you are supposedly defiling their so-called pure friends and acquaintances, while in their petty little minds the whores are already defiled.

[matsuki]

Having sex with some random woman means you might love her. Having sex with a prostitute means you're simply paying for a service and you're not going to fall in love with her.

Never have been able to understand the paying for sex thing.

Which is why is makes sense that a married woman who has accepted that her husband is going to step out prefers a hooker over a mistress. However, that doesn't explain why a single guy who can pick up is seen as sleazier than a single guy who goes to Yoshiwara when he's horny.

It's because you are supposedly defiling their so-called pure friends and acquaintances, while in their petty little minds the whores are already defiled.

Exactly....have any of you honestly ever got upset because a foreign dude is banging a chick from your country? That level of insecurity and the "outrage" it produces is more than just petty.

[wagyl]

Exactly....have any of you honestly ever got upset because a foreign dude is banging a chick from your country? That level of insecurity and the "outrage" it produces is more than just petty.

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/over ... -here.html

[Samurai_Jerk]

Having sex with some random woman means you might love her. Having sex with a prostitute means you're simply paying for a service and you're not going to fall in love with her.

Never have been able to understand the paying for sex thing.

Which is why is makes sense that a married woman who has accepted that her husband is going to step out prefers a hooker over a mistress. However, that doesn't explain why a single guy who can pick up is seen as sleazier than a single guy who goes to Yoshiwara when he's horny.

It's because you are supposedly defiling their so-called pure friends and acquaintances, while in their petty little minds the whores are already defiled.

Trust me. It's got nothing to do with that.

[matsuki]

Exactly....have any of you honestly ever got upset because a foreign dude is banging a chick from your country? That level of insecurity and the "outrage" it produces is more than just petty.

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/over ... -here.html

I guess I should have said dating...cause I didn't mean prostitution. (explicit or otherwise)

[wagyl]

Unless flirting with a GI in the hopes of getting a pair of stockings or some chocolate is included as implicit prostitution in your mind (in which case, I wonder about allowing herself to sleep over after accompanying you to Costco is), you just tarred a large number of women with a very accusatorial brush.

Feelings ran very high at the time.

[matsuki]

Unless flirting with a GI in the hopes of getting a pair of stockings or some chocolate is included as implicit prostitution in your mind (in which case, I wonder about allowing herself to sleep over after accompanying you to Costco is), you just tarred a large number of women with a very accusatorial brush.

Feelings ran very high at the time.

Somehow a regular prostitute seems to be in a more an understandable pursuit when compared to a girl sluttin' it up for...chocolate?? Be it money, choco, or a trip to Costco...if that's their motivation, I guess it says even more about the girls than the angsty, insecure, guys that get anger over it. That being said, what I actually wanted to know was if any of you guys honestly ever get upset because a foreign dude is banging a chick from your country? (maybe I should add "race" as well...as I've seen dudes here get mad when some FG-lookin dude is with a K-girl, Chinese, etc.)

[Samurai_Jerk]

Unless flirting with a GI in the hopes of getting a pair of stockings or some chocolate is included as implicit prostitution in your mind (in which case, I wonder about allowing herself to sleep over after accompanying you to Costco is), you just tarred a large number of women with a very accusatorial brush.

Feelings ran very high at the time.

Somehow a regular prostitute seems to be in a more an understandable pursuit when compared to a girl sluttin' it up for...chocolate?? Be it money, choco, or a trip to Costco...if that's their motivation, I guess it says even more about the girls than the angsty, insecure, guys that get anger over it. That being said, what I actually wanted to know was if any of you guys honestly ever get upset because a foreign dude is banging a chick from your country? (maybe I should add "race" as well...as I've seen dudes here get mad when some FG-lookin dude is with a K-girl, Chinese, etc.)

I couldn't care less but I don't think FG members are the best sample as most of us are in a place where demographics mean we pretty much have to "date outside our race" and are probably less likely to care. I've seen a different kind of discrimination among FG men though. A lot of them won't date Japanese girls who've been with a lot of other gaijin. I've hear similar things from Asian women in the US. They're OK dating white guys but not white guys with a history of only or mostly dating Asians (not sure if that applies to black and Hispanics guys ).

[wagyl]

That will be the "do you want me for me as a person, or do you want me as a representative of a certain group" doubt. I suppose it is about a form of objectification, and I can understand those concerns.

[Samurai_Jerk]

That will be the "do you want me for me as a person, or do you want me as a representative of a certain group" doubt. I suppose it is about a form of objectification, and I can understand those concerns.

Yeah, I get it but there are definitely some FG that pick up local prejudices and see girls who sleep with foreigners as dirty.

[matsuki]

I've seen that before and while I don't see them as dirty, I understand the concern of objectification and how obvious it is the previous FG has rubbed off on them. (I've come across a few that had me wishing for a counter with me so I knew how many times can she unnecessarily said shit, fuck, and go to hell in one conversation....and not even directed at me) I will add, it's only ever bothered me when the qty is some retarded amount in a short period of time....but that would be the same turn off, regardless of what race/nationality of the men. (and I'm self-admitted slut so don't turn that around on me Wags!)

[wagyl]

Hey, I grew up with females with a very high concentration of shits, fucks, cunts and arseholes (and my grandmother was the most potty-mouthed of the lot) but none of them believed in the sky fairy, so I don't think I ever heard one of them tell anyone to go to Hell.

No, Matsuki, I'm not going to introduce you.

[inflames]

That will be the "do you want me for me as a person, or do you want me as a representative of a certain group" doubt. I suppose it is about a form of objectification, and I can understand those concerns.

Yeah, I get it but there are definitely some FG that pick up local prejudices and see girls who sleep with foreigners as dirty.

I'm not sure if its that or just that they are prejudiced against the ones who basically bang any foreigner and basically will fuck some guy for a free English lesson (or the ones who are willing to get married to get a visa out of Japan).

[Samurai_Jerk]

"If you pay, you can slay."

While athletes and random bros alike were busy asking the waiter to take a photo to remember before digging into an obscenely overpriced dessert on Valentine’s Day, Floyd Mayweather chose to spend some time in Amsterdam. Specifically, the Red Light District where, as Floyd says, if you pay, you can slay.

[matsuki]

I don't know if that always applies...one of my good friends here has all these stories of whores taking one look at him and turning him down. (he's a big guy) One chubby white dude I know got turned down in front of everyone at one of those Korean karaoke places. (not prostitutes, well not all of them, but basically a hands on Karaoke date deal) The K-dudes that brought us there were laughing "Duuuuuuuude! I've never seen anyone get turned down before!"

[inflames]

I have two really stupid friends who have had messed up experiences because they were dumb. One guy paid, then the woman said his dick was too big and she would just give him a blowjob. He said no he paid for sex and not a blowjob and apparently this entire thing went back and forth until the bell rang.

Another friend went to a soapland (or whatever they are in amemura) and the chick gave him a bath, sucked on the tip of his dick, and the bell rang and she left. I think they're both idiots for actually paying for sex, but the second guy didn't even try to fuck her (apparently it was news to him that a chick you're paying money to might not be into sex with you).

Didn't get turned down though.

[American Oyaji]

That will be the "do you want me for me as a person, or do you want me as a representative of a certain group" doubt. I suppose it is about a form of objectification, and I can understand those concerns.

Yeah, I get it but there are definitely some FG that pick up local prejudices and see girls who sleep with foreigners as dirty.

The ones that I KNEW screwed some foreigners were never one I ever kept around. I'd bang the heck out of them. Mainly because they pretty much put out when you wanted without hassle or questions...in retrospect, I should have just left my wife and hooked up with one of them. They were more fun.

I never thought they were dirty.....I just preferred unspoiled territory and to be a woman's first non-Japanese experience.
Because of that, I got a lot of new Japanese experiences.

It might be because of how Americanized my wife was before we met.
What's interesting though, is that she said she could forgive me cheating with a Japanese girl, but not a Black one. I never asked why at the time (I was 22, what did I know?) because I had no intentions of EVER cheating.
Sigh.


ATTENTION: Some of these paragraphs are out of the order I wrote them in because it didn't make sense from a (stoned) stream of consciousness.

It still might not make sense, but damn, I miss Japan.

[Buraku]

19 arrested after entertaining, ripping off matchmaking app users at Tokyo restaurant - The Mainichi

https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20 ... na/007000c

[Buraku]

During the STD and STI crisis of the past there were not too many web 'shaming' posting troll nonsense on Instagram # hashtags. Some worried about fruit fly microchimerism

During the AIDs crisis it was discovered thousands of Americans engaged in Bestiality or homosexual gay men went to Haiti for the same reason as in the video