Land of Hopeless Glory

[yanpa]

Thought there was already a thread for stuff from that overpriced piece of damp off the northwest coast of Europe

Some good news on that front. Number of suicides in England and Wales reaches 20-year high, presumably reducing demand for housing (warning: features uncensored pic of balding Willy). At the same time super-rich may quit London homes under new anti-corruption rules (in other news, London to be blanketed with flying pig droppings), while Brexit would prompt stock market and house price crash, says IMF.

[Coligny]

Very bad taste, but an arrestable offence?

Agreed. Public ridicule should be sufficient punishment for anybody that owns a pug, though anybody from Coatbridge doing so should also have to spend a week on their knees licking clean the pavement outside a Glasgow kebab shop. On Paisley Road. On Sunday morning.

Very bad taste, but an arrestable offence?

This kind of shit is really getting out of hand in Europe and Canada.

Apparently we just refused entry to the Fat Negro comedienne, Douchedonair. I don't support that sort of intervention, but it's pretty funny and it furthers the Boycott France movement, so I'll pencil it in as a win.

French comic Dieudonné won't perform in Montreal
http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-n ... ian-border

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[yanpa]

Woman who posed as man to trick friend into sex appeals against sentence
A woman who was jailed for duping her friend into having sex by pretending to be a man is to appeal against her prison sentence.

Gayle Newland, 26, was jailed for eight years after she tricked her friend for two years by disguising her appearance and voice and persuading the woman to wear a blindfold whenever they met.

The pair had sex about 10 times until the complainant took off her mask and saw Newland wearing a prosthetic penis, the trial at Chester crown court heard.
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The complainant told the jury that when they finally decided to meet in February 2013, Kye asked her to wear a blindfold, saying he was insecure about his looks after undergoing brain surgery.

They were said to have spent more than 100 hours together and the encounters would include the complainant wearing a blindfold while they watched television and even when sunbathing.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... le-newland

[Russell]

Woman who posed as man to trick friend into sex appeals against sentence
A woman who was jailed for duping her friend into having sex by pretending to be a man is to appeal against her prison sentence.

Gayle Newland, 26, was jailed for eight years after she tricked her friend for two years by disguising her appearance and voice and persuading the woman to wear a blindfold whenever they met.

The pair had sex about 10 times until the complainant took off her mask and saw Newland wearing a prosthetic penis, the trial at Chester crown court heard.
...

The complainant told the jury that when they finally decided to meet in February 2013, Kye asked her to wear a blindfold, saying he was insecure about his looks after undergoing brain surgery.

They were said to have spent more than 100 hours together and the encounters would include the complainant wearing a blindfold while they watched television and even when sunbathing.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... le-newland

Eight years prison appears to be a bit overblown for that, methinks.

But it goes to show that one had better use a real penis to have sex, rather than a prosthetic one.

[kurogane]

I disagree. It's rape by false pretence. What she got was not what she consented to. Not as physically dangerous but not unlike an AIDS carrier not disclosing their condition to their bonk buddies. I found it refreshing that such a snicker worthy case was taken so seriously, especially since there are no men involved. At the very least the victim must be borderline mentally incompetent, and perhaps that was accounted for in the sentencing. At any rate, this should help rein in the scourge of coercive, deceptive lesbianism that is sweeping the western world and threatening the very bases of our democratic freedoms and education systems, not to mention the purity of essence of our precious bodily fluids.

[Wage Slave]

Indeed, my thoughts entirely. The international lesbian conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

You also make a very good point in respect of likely mental capacity - and that is why the penalty is, rightly, fairly stiff.

[kurogane]

Yes, well put. Along with the candy coded terrorist refugee infiltration scheme and the flouridation of bottled Italian fizzy water, Coercive Lesbianism is truly the Trojan Horse of our times. It actually only occurred to me as I wrote back to Russell that the victim might well be borderline, and as you noted, hence the severity of the sentence: we can't always prevent the weaker from being preyed upon but we can sure whack those that do when we catch them. Hopefully the perpetrator will develop an appreciation for receiving stiff punishments as well as doling them out
just coz this whole story is still way too snicker worthy

[yanpa]

Presumably the evidence stood up under trial.

[Wage Slave]

Although the sentence may seem a bit hard on the defendant the thrust of the prosecution's argument was powerful.

[Russell]

Yes, well put. Along with the candy coded terrorist refugee infiltration scheme and the flouridation of bottled Italian fizzy water, Coercive Lesbianism is truly the Trojan Horse of our times. It actually only occurred to me as I wrote back to Russell that the victim might well be borderline, and as you noted, hence the severity of the sentence: we can't always prevent the weaker from being preyed upon but we can sure whack those that do when we catch them. Hopefully the perpetrator will develop an appreciation for receiving stiff punishments as well as doling them out
just coz this whole story is still way too snicker worthy

Eight years...

She should've killed the victim. That would've given her a lighter sentence.

[kurogane]

Sadly, you state a hard truth, but I am all for stiff sentences when it comes to sexual assault

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/karen-bur ... 45072.html
Here is an almost interesting radfemcomsymp overdeterminative deconstruction of the case, although I do note she avoids discussing the elements of deceit and manipulation, which the judge mentioned and the jury seemed to consider relevant. She also charges that the same judge has given less stiff sentences to paedophiles, and that would show undue bias in MYHOMO. I think she brings up a few good points but seems to be skirting the issue

[Samurai_Jerk]

Sadly, you state a hard truth, but I am all for stiff sentences when it comes to sexual assault

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/karen-bur ... 45072.html
Here is an almost interesting radfemcomsymp overdeterminative deconstruction of the case, although I do note she avoids discussing the elements of deceit and manipulation, which the judge mentioned and the jury seemed to consider relevant. She also charges that the same judge has given less stiff sentences to paedophiles, and that would show undue bias in MYHOMO. I think she brings up a few good points but seems to be skirting the issue

Though Burke is correct that inconsistent contradictory sentencing is a problem of the criminal justice system that needs to be addressed that doesn't mean this women should get off lightly. After all two wongs don't make a right.

[kurogane]

Well put. If the judge is biased against Coercive Lesbianism it should come out in the appeal.

Russell,
It's speculation on my part, but any potential judicial bias aside the victim's mental abilities and state must have played a factor in the stiffness snicker snicker of the sentence. She must be a complete moron or a mess to have been fooled like that, and therefore deserves greater protection under the law.
And if stuff comes out on appeal that makes me rethink it I'll change my mind.

Do you not consider what the convicted woman did to be a form of serious sexual assault?

[Russell]

Well put. If the judge is biased against Coercive Lesbianism it should come out in the appeal.

Russell,
It's speculation on my part, but any potential judicial bias aside the victim's mental abilities and state must have played a factor in the stiffness snicker snicker of the sentence. She must be a complete moron or a mess to have been fooled like that, and therefore deserves greater protection under the law.
And if stuff comes out on appeal that makes me rethink it I'll change my mind.

Do you not consider what the convicted woman did to be a form of serious sexual assault?

The perpetrator coerced the victim to have sex with her under false pretenses. I am not saying that is acceptable, but it is not completely dissimilar to a guy talking a woman into having sex by pretending to be very rich. If the woman is gullible, would that justify an 8-year prison sentence?

Or suppose the guy had a small dick and used a dildo to satisfy the woman, pretending it to be his own. Would that get him behind bars?

Sorry to become a bit philosophical about this.

And, we're talking here about Europe. An 8-year prison sentence is what you would typically get for murder.

[Wage Slave]

In England and Wales murder gets a mandatory life sentence together with a minimum term before eligible for parole. The minimum term is usually 15 years but can be much longer. Some get a whole life sentence.

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[Russell]

In England and Wales murder gets a mandatory life sentence together with a minimum term before eligible for parole. The minimum term is usually 15 years but can be much longer. Some get a whole life sentence.

Looks like penalties are a bit stiffer than in the Netherlands.

[matsuki]

In England and Wales murder gets a mandatory life sentence together with a minimum term before eligible for parole. The minimum term is usually 15 years but can be much longer. Some get a whole life sentence.

Looks like penalties are a bit stiffer than in the Netherlands.

Time to get stiffer? (or stuff assistance?)

[Coligny]

In England and Wales murder gets a mandatory life sentence together with a minimum term before eligible for parole. The minimum term is usually 15 years but can be much longer. Some get a whole life sentence.

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He said "Yurop" you brexitard...

[kurogane]

The perpetrator coerced the victim to have sex with her under false pretenses. I am not saying that is acceptable, but it is not completely dissimilar to a guy talking a woman into having sex by pretending to be very rich. If the woman is gullible, would that justify an 8-year prison sentence?

Depending on the particulars of the case at hand, sure, it might. If it was simple deception, no; I would suggest civil litigation there, if at all. But if it was repeated and predatory, as this case is purported to be, sure, why not? And if the victim is of some sort of diminished capacity, definitely. Sex by false pretence is an assault, and the more vulnerable the victim the harsher the sentence should be. I am not talking about Matsuki/PUA style pickup lines being used as panty remover, but mostly because that is a whole different quagmire that is likely unenforceable: it would effectively be the micro-management of social relations.

Sorry to become a bit philosophical about this.

Au contraire. Yours is a good answer, but we seem to disagree about punishment. If murder gets 8 years in Europe I think Europe needs to start thinking about getting themselves a stiffy, sentencing wise. Allowing for individual circumstances, actual murder (as opposed to manslaughter, negligence, etc.) deserves at least 15 years, and often a whole life. This idea that violent criminals deserve that much consideration is terribly wrong headed (in MYHOMO) and a great Achilles Heel of progressive thought. If an individual case shows the perpetrator deserves consideration, fine. In principle, if you kill you go away and don't come back. No individual matters enough to put society at that risk, and the priority given to violent criminals over the cares and concerns of normal people undermines the broader social legitimacy of the rule of law.

Now, as for that small dicked guy passing off a dildo as his own dick..........doesn't everybody do that?

[Wage Slave]

I should have said a very few, rather than some, murderers get a whole life term. Less than 8 years for murder isn't nearly stiff enough to my mind - at least not in England. Murder is very dear to the English heart - those Agatha Christie and other books are no co-incidence. There needs to be a very solid deterrence for that lot. Especially the middle and upper classes.

[kurogane]

Canada sounds similar: only the most heinous and incorrigible get a true life sentence, and that usually involves recidivism and subsequent designation under the Dangerous Offenders Act, which detains them at Her Majesty's pleasure. It also means that a murderer caught and imprisoned was released and killed again, which brings us back to the fundamental irrelevance of any individual life when measured against normal people's safety and security.

Plus it's always fun to suggest that individuals are mere cogs in a greater machine and the ones that don't fit deserve to be dismantled and discarded. It drives my lefty friends batshiite, but Spock would agree

[Russell]

Now, as for that small dicked guy passing off a dildo as his own dick..........doesn't everybody do that?

She could've claimed to be hermaphrodite with a penis the size of a clitoris. And that she wanted to use the dildo to satisfy her victim. Since hermaphrodites are a minority, as far as my scientific knowledge goes, she would have instantly gained the sympathy of the judge.

But enough Nietzsche already...

[inflames]

Christ....

Dumb chick thought she was getting banged by some dude when it turned out to be another chick.

Way to avoid problem - suck dick. Chick didn't want to suck dick so she wound up getting banged by a woman instead and complained to the cops. Shoulda sucked dick, but shoulda woulda coulda.

[Russell]

Christ....

Dumb chick thought she was getting banged by some dude when it turned out to be another chick.

Way to avoid problem - suck dick. Chick didn't want to suck dick so she wound up getting banged by a woman instead and complained to the cops. Shoulda sucked dick, but shoulda woulda coulda.

If she was so retarded as most posters here want us to believe, she wouldn't have noticed the difference sucking a piece of plastic.

LOL

[kurogane]

All true enough.

By diminished capacity I meant she was either of slow mind and/or so confused she's an emotional spazzoid, and the convicted woman is using the last idea in her defence and appeal, so there!!!!!!!!!
Still, we got some Nietsche out of it, so we're all winners now

[Buraku]

France threatens EU legal action if UK sticks to fishing licence stance
https://news.yahoo.com/frances-beaune-b ... 00109.html
Macron privately called Boris Johnson a ‘clown’, says French magazine
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... e?ref=quuu

The Scottish guy
He seems to be back, people mirror his stuff or else he has his own channel on rumble, odysee, minds, bitchute, medium, he's been reclassed by media types, no longer an anarchist leftwinger but a Conservative Libertarian Alt-Righter?


His chat on 'Roof Koreans' or 'Xu Xiaodong' is pretty funny

and
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZsqWmU8oD_M/
A War That Was Fought With Toyotas

[Buraku]

Gone are the days Boris Johnson stomped and butted a tiny Japanese child during game of rugby?

Boris Johnson’s Legacy
https://news.yahoo.com/boris-johnson-le ... 09928.html

phoned the Queen before resigning
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news ... 22963.html