Missing 7-year old abandoned by parents as punishment

[Samurai_Jerk]

Missing 7-year-old boy left in mountains by parents as punishment

The parents of a seven-year-old Japanese boy missing in the mountains confessed on Sunday they had left him as a punishment and he did not get lost during a hike as first claimed, police said.

More than 150 rescuers and police officers were searching for a second day on Mt Komagatake in Nanae, Hokkaido, after Yamato Tanooka went missing on Saturday, a police spokesman said.

His parents originally told police Yamato got lost while the family were out walking in the area, a habitat of bears, to pick wild vegetables.

I really hope this doesn't turn out like I think it will.

[Coligny]

I really hope this doesn't turn out like I think it will.

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We dooooo...

[Samurai_Jerk]

I just remembered that a Korean guy I used to know told me his father once tied him naked to a tree in the woods and left him there all day with no food or water as punishment when he was a a kid. He disagreed with me and the younger Koreans that it was child abuse. The guy was about 18 years older than me so there was probably a bit of a generation gap.

[TennoChinko]

If/when they find the boy, they'll probably get a better idea of what really happened based on his condition and location. The current story is that the parents "abandoned him" for five minutes and drove 500 meters away down the road ( which is a seriously long distance if you consider the nature of the terrain ... not claiming it'd have absolutely made a difference but a car could have gone even only 150 meters and appeared to be long gone.) However that only came out afterward, so I'm wondering whether there's another backstory. What if the parents beat the shit out of him, killed him and made up this story of losing him? Or, let's say they were being truthful...sort of. What if it was much much longer than five minutes or in an effort to minimize their idiocy, were untruthful in the actual distance they drove away? Which would mean rescuers would be looking in the wrong spot?

[Samurai_Jerk]

If/when they find the boy, they'll probably get a better idea of what really happened based on his condition and location. The current story is that the parents "abandoned him" for five minutes and drove 500 meters away down the road ( which is a seriously long distance if you consider the nature of the terrain ... not claiming it'd have absolutely made a difference but a car could have gone even only 150 meters and appeared to be long gone.) However that only came out afterward, so I'm wondering whether there's another backstory. What if the parents beat the shit out of him, killed him and made up this story of losing him? Or, let's say they were being truthful...sort of. What if it was much much longer than five minutes or in an effort to minimize their idiocy, were untruthful in the actual distance they drove away? Which would mean rescuers would be looking in the wrong spot?

Assuming the're not try to cover up serious physical abuse or murder, my bet is they left him there a lot longer than the 5 mins they claim.

[Russell]

How can these parents bear it to know that their little boy is out in bear country?

[kurogane]

I really hope this doesn't turn out like I think it will.

Well said. Me too. Even parents that stupid deserve a second chance, and the kid does, obviously.

[Coligny]

How can these parents bear it to know that their little boy is out in bear country?

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Wanted for questioning...

[kurogane]

How can these parents bear it to know that their little boy is out in bear country?

I would find it unbearable, and I'm not even a parent. Just thinking of the grisly fate that might await him..........

Anyhoo.......more:

http://www.cp24.com/world/boy-7-disappe ... -1.2922642

The parents told police that it was a punishment for him for throwing rocks while playing at a river earlier in the day, according to Japanese media. Kyodo News say police are investigating whether the case is subject to child abandonment.

So..........it was strategic. I smell track suits and trash. Anyways, the town is near enough Hakodate it's probably not all that bear heavy, and I hiked a lot up there. I never thought of that part as all that hillbilly, but that admission of the parents I quoted makes me think the whole damn island might just be a scenic Gifu.

[Russell]

How can these parents bear it to know that their little boy is out in bear country?

I would find it unbearable, and I'm not even a parent. Just thinking of the grisly fate that might await him..........

Anyhoo.......more:

http://www.cp24.com/world/boy-7-disappe ... -1.2922642

The parents told police that it was a punishment for him for throwing rocks while playing at a river earlier in the day, according to Japanese media. Kyodo News say police are investigating whether the case is subject to child abandonment.

So..........it was strategic. I smell track suits and trash. Anyways, the town is near enough Hakodate it's probably not all that bear heavy, and I hiked a lot up there. I never thought of that part as all that hillbilly, but that admission of the parents I quoted makes me think the whole damn island might just be a scenic Gifu.

I read in the Independent that he threw rocks at cars on a street nearby. How many streets are there nearby on a hiking trail in Hokkaido?

I start to like the boy already...

[wagyl]

I read in the Independent that he threw rocks at cars on a street nearby. How many streets are there nearby on a hiking trail in Hokkaido?

I start to like the boy already...

Unless the Independent are doing ninja edits (and since you regard the fact that the NYT announces when it makes corrections as a sign that it is a poor media player, so in effect you are encouraging the media to make ninja edits), you need to read more carefully.

they left him in the mountains on the way home from a park to punish him for throwing stones at cars driving on a street nearby.

street nearby the park.

I was going to say that I agree with Kuro that Nanae is not a particular ursine risk, but http://www.town.nanae.hokkaido.jp/hotne ... 100242.pdf.

[matsuki]

Is this the Japanese version of a walkabout?

Not lookin' good..

[Takechanpoo]

my grandfather told me that when he was a naughty kid he got hang up upside down to a garden tree for a day by his father. its a before WW2 thing though.

[inflames]

If this were a salaryman whose in-laws left him in the forest, I'd say he just outsmarted them. If throwing rocks at cars got my mother-in-law to fuck off I think missus would be all for it (I sure as hell would).

Pretty fucking dumb parents though.

[wagyl]

The Hokkaido brown bear may be the least of their worries.
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[J.A.F.O]

I've caught my wife trying to send the kids outside and wait for hours "as punishment" I'm like WTF. "No we don't do that as punishment"

[Mike Oxlong]

Yep. Common on Okinawa. Have had child welfare workers from city hall come by to ask about kids locked out on verandas for hours crying and begging to be let back in their homes.

[Grumpy Gramps]

When I was little, punishment was to stay inside. That was bad We didn't have to fear bears or gorillas though, just rabies.

I often have the feeling that Japanese have lost touch with nature and only can bear it, when they have total control (as in a bonsai or japanese garden).

In an "action plan" for Nagoya, they worte:

The City with a balance between Comfortable Environment and Nature...

...as if these two were mutually exclusive (Source: pdf, page 11).

[kurogane]

I think I get what you mean, but I am not sure your observation bears up to scrutiny. Japanese Nature has always mostly meant enculturated nature, like in your examples. Big Nature is scary and dreadful because it is unmediated and uncontrollable. Continuing with the Intro to Japan 101 theme (w/ apologies for the pedantry), isn't the leave the kid/lock them out punishment standard fare in any Intro to Japan! course? I never actually took one but I had heard or read that by month 2 or 3. OTOH, normal parents would do it at home (like JAFO's witchy poo wife or Mike Ox's neighbours). Even parents that stupid know you don't stop and drop in bat country. Unbearably sad as this story is, esp since it isn't looking hopeful, perhaps we need to consider a new category of Darwin Award for the parents. Stupid, yes, but also evil and cowardly. I would be surprised if they are ever able to claw their way out of the hole they have dug for themselves, bearing in mind that..................nope. I have no more heart for it

[matsuki]

I'm starting to think SJ was on to something with the whole terrible child murder cover up or something. Most 7 year olds would probably sit there and cry or maybe a more adventurous kid would try to walk home...I guess there is the possibility of a pedo in the parking lot (TIJ) but something doesn't seem right here...

As to the whole locking kids out punishment, like Kuro mentioned, I've seen plenty of people do it here so it no longer phases me but I also know of at least one instance where the child was locked out and an unknown person tried to come to the rescue. Panic ensued and after a dash down several stories and a few blocks away, there was much embarrassment at a koban.

[wuchan]

The fear of nature is very old. The original inhabitants of Japan ate all the edible animals that they could easily catch leaving only poisonous and dangerous things that then evolved into bigger and more dangerous things like hornets the size of your face and centipedes the size of your fucking arm. ( I nearly shit myself the first time I saw one of those land tanks) Traveling Kyu-Nakasendo from Edo to Kyoto was pretty dangerous 1,000 years ago. Aside from bandits and rogue samurai there were killer bugs, bears, dive bombing hawks, aggressive monkeys trying to steal your food, angry boars, giant rats and wild dogs. Nature here is no joke.

[matsuki]

I fucking hate mukade.....

[wagyl]

I fucking hate mukade.....

You are the wrong person to build a house out of logs.

[Wage Slave]

I fucking hate mukade.....

You are the wrong person to build a house out of logs.

Ping! Yeah but he isn't going to live in it - It's for renting out to destressing urbanites. They'll be fine.

[matsuki]

I fucking hate mukade.....

You are the wrong person to build a house out of logs.

Ping! Yeah but he isn't going to live in it - It's for renting out to destressing urbanites. They'll be fine.

you forgot "in Japan" Yeah, I'm loading up on tim-bor right now and can't wait to see how many of those things I can kill on my existing logs

Woke up one morning when the ex gf was shifting in her sleep and I see the million legged beast crawl up the wall behind her, stop, and do this threatening hang and motion at me (must be mukade code for the finger) I woke her up without telling her why, moved her over and got the fugger with a tissue box. She didn't freak out, crissis averted....til she saw the size of the thing before I toasted it in the firpit later that day. I wish I video'd her scream and dance...instant youtube fame for sure.

[yanpa]

I toasted it in the firpit later that day.

Is there good eating on them things?

[Samurai_Jerk]

I toasted it in the firpit later that day.

Is there good eating on them things?

When I was in Vietnam I met an older guy who fought with the US for the South and ended up in a reeducation camp in the jungle for three years after the fall of Saigon. He said he was starving and had to eat boiled centipedes. He said they were actually good and tasted like shrimp.

[yanpa]

I toasted it in the firpit later that day.

Is there good eating on them things?

When I was in Vietnam I met an older guy who fought with the US for the South and ended up in a reeducation camp in the jungle for three years after the fall of Saigon. He said he was starving and had to eat boiled centipedes. He said they were actually good and tasted like shrimp.

I see a business opportunity for something branded "陸エビ".

[waruta]

Saw a massive mukade at the old apartment block hallway on the 5th floor as I was taking out the trash. Coming straight for me about 5m away, dropped the trash and tried to get some spray poison. About the thickness of my thumb, black and red coloring and about 30cm long. Here's the list of things I tried:

1) Cockroach Spray - straight walked through a cloud and pool of this liquid
2) Bug Powder - nothing. Should have killed any exoskeleton insect but nope.
3) Bleach - this really pissed it off
4) WD40 and 556 CRC - curled up then uncurled and started to come at me again
5) Engine Starter Fluid - nothing.
6) Brake Cleaner Spray - stopped it. Then it unfroze/woke up and was not a happy camper.

Finally grabbed a lighter and napalmed him with a full can of brake cleaner. Kept moving whilst on fire, leaving a nice trail of burning whatever. Took a good 30 seconds of roasting to get it to curl up and stop moving. Almost all the neighbors coming outside to see what the hell I was starting fires up and down the block for.

Them some tough fuckers. Like o-suzumebachi.

[Russell]

Saw a massive mukade at the old apartment block hallway on the 5th floor as I was taking out the trash. Coming straight for me about 5m away, dropped the trash and tried to get some spray poison. About the thickness of my thumb, black and red coloring and about 30cm long. Here's the list of things I tried:

1) Cockroach Spray - straight walked through a cloud and pool of this liquid
2) Bug Powder - nothing. Should have killed any exoskeleton insect but nope.
3) Bleach - this really pissed it off
4) WD40 and 556 CRC - curled up then uncurled and started to come at me again
5) Engine Starter Fluid - nothing.
6) Brake Cleaner Spray - stopped it. Then it unfroze/woke up and was not a happy camper.

Finally grabbed a lighter and napalmed him with a full can of brake cleaner. Kept moving whilst on fire, leaving a nice trail of burning whatever. Took a good 30 seconds of roasting to get it to curl up and stop moving. Almost all the neighbors coming outside to see what the hell I was starting fires up and down the block for.

Them some tough fuckers. Like o-suzumebachi.

Hmm, that sounds like fun!

Unfortunately, I never met one.

Are they also resistant to poison spray against o-suzumebachi?