OH NO, but it's Ono!

[Taro Toporific]

Will Lennon's last song be a hit for Yoko at 70?
BILE and mockery have spilled from music critics over the decades as Yoko Ono has warbled almost tunelessly through a litany of records... on the eve of her 70th birthday,... Yoko has now apparently found her voice, so to speak, and is releasing what is tipped for a dance floor smash hit with a gutsy new version of Lennon's last song.
... This conviction of her superiority most probably stems from her background in Japan, where she was born on a snowy February morn at her great-grandmother's ...
- - - icCheshireOnline, UK, 17 Feb

[Big Booger]

She is a lame granny who needs to hang it up.
hehehe
BB

[GuyJean]

Is that an ass?

My buddy sent me some jpgs of an art exhibit, I think, in New York; Various human assholes.. It still makes me sick to my stomach.. But I laughed like a stoned teenager..

GJ

[Andocrates]

As weird as she is if you read more about her childhood and her life up to the point she met Lennon you start to understand her a bit. The Beatles were a little before my time and I never got what the big deal was so I don't see her as the enemy.

[Taro Toporific]

As weird as she is if you read more about her ... you start to understand her a bit...I never got what the big deal was so I don't see her as the enemy.

She may be the worst singer in the history of recording, BUT many people have been rethinking the over-reaction to her...

Yoko Ono:
Mother and Child Reunion
Salon.com 1999

Interviewer: ..people are only just now beginning to reconsider how much racism and sexism played a part in your public demonization.

Yoko Ono: I understand how people felt about it, especially considering the times. It must have been very hard on them that suddenly their hero is standing with a woman. It's hard enough to see him with a woman, but an Oriental woman at that...

[kamome]

Just a side note. The Beatles were before my time, too, although I did know of Yoko Ono as a kid. It wasn't until much later that I understood she was Japanese and married to one of the most famous people in music. Thinking about it now, it still seems pretty cool. She must be one of the most famous, if not the most famous, Japanese people ever--bad voice and all. Would that be a wrong characterization? Any thoughts from people who lived through the Beatles era?

[Steve Bildermann]

Through a mutual friend I've met Ono Yoko many times over the years. In the sixties she was rich, weird and very determined to be a success (at whatever - it didn't matter)

She hung around the London art scene and through the sheer force of having lots of daddy's money to throw around made a name for herself. As an artist she was crap then and things haven't got any better since. I once said so and she sort of shrugged knowingly. I guess she'd heard it before.

She got married to John and that became her success story. Every time we met after that she was living the life as a celebrity. I told her she was the oriental Za Za Gabor without the glamour. She thought that was funny.

After John got shot she inherited his life and has turned it into a multi billion dollar business. She's estranged from John's older kid (who's a weirdo in his own right) and has poured millions into Sean's rather humdrum music career. In Japan she's obscure. She doesn't act Japanese when you meet her. It's not all bad. She's seems sincere in her work for peace. She supports quite a few charities and I know she's taken care of people who helped John in his early days.

[Andocrates]

Wow, dude - that's cool. I met, ummn well no one famous yet.

But she is an artist to me, she takes a traditional art-form (music) that comes chock full of expectations and standards you are expected to meet and she delivers something so horrible that you have to stop and figure out what the hell she is going on about.

That is art.

I am a musician. I remember years of getting up at 4 am to practice, but looking back - what was it all for? So I can play guitar good, but so can 1000 other guys, and no matter how good I get age keeps kicking me further and further from the whole scene. I wanted to be an artist but I have come to realize skill doesn't make you an artist. And the lack of skill can't keep a true artist down. I'm not sure where she fits in with all this since the only thing I can recall is her "Dead Rat Solo" where she held a dead rat up to the microphone for a 4 minute silent solo.

When I was learning to copy old Led Zepplin riffs some little ghetto kids were playing with their dads old turntables and jazz records - musicians sneered but they were creating art. When everyone said synthesizers sounded fake Prince and rappers took those fake sounds and made them art.

[cliffy]

Yes Andocrates TALENT is supreme. Skill is good for techneque and marketing sells. NO talent will splash and dissapear ( how many one hit wonders do you know?) but true talents will continue. Art, Music or Theatre talent reins supreme, pretenders fall.

[den4]

Ono Yoko was born in the wrong decade....she would have fit right in with the girl singers these days.....but weird as she is, she does seem to have some respect in Japan....having seen her appear in commercials from time to time, and always promoting peace as a message...

but as far as talent? I guess when comparing to John Lennon, it could be said that opposites attract.... :P

Isn't she coming out with a new media piece with another group?

[kamome]

Through a mutual friend I've met Ono Yoko many times over the years. In the sixties she was rich, weird and very determined to be a success (at whatever - it didn't matter)

She hung around the London art scene and through the sheer force of having lots of daddy's money to throw around made a name for herself. As an artist she was crap then and things haven't got any better since. I once said so and she sort of shrugged knowingly. I guess she'd heard it before.

She got married to John and that became her success story. Every time we met after that she was living the life as a celebrity. I told her she was the oriental Za Za Gabor without the glamour. She thought that was funny.

After John got shot she inherited his life and has turned it into a multi billion dollar business. She's estranged from John's older kid (who's a weirdo in his own right) and has poured millions into Sean's rather humdrum music career. In Japan she's obscure. She doesn't act Japanese when you meet her. It's not all bad. She's seems sincere in her work for peace. She supports quite a few charities and I know she's taken care of people who helped John in his early days.

Where did her family get its money from?

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

[den4]

I like that phrase....something that goes beyond the span of time....cool concept that...
Yes, I know what busu is, but still, that's pure poetry.... :P

I'll have to use that phrase, with your permission, Gaisaradatsuraku!

[Steve Bildermann]

Where did her family get its money from?

Family had 'old money' - land and investments. Father was into banking and also married into more money.

Two articles.

Yoko Ono Biography

http://vax.wcsu.edu/~mccarney/fva/YOno_bio.html

Article about Yoko's daughter Kyoko (she was essentially kidnapped from Yoko by her 2nd husband)

http://www.vivona.net/TonyCox.htm

What comes out from these and other material is Yoko Ono was a very self absorbed young Japanese 'princess' who set out to be successful in art in the sixties when art was in so much flux that just about anything could get accepted as avant garde. She used and pretty much discarded quite a few people on the way up (two husbands, three children) before hitting the jackpot. John Lennon.

John (a former very mediocre art student) was looking for an art mentor and she fitted the bill.

The rest is really boring history. She just ain't that interesting.

[Taro Toporific]

Imagine... It was Yoko's, not John's 31 Aug / Asian Age
...The simple lyrics of Imagine voted the UK's favourite song of all time were always thought to be solely inspired by Lennons hopes for a more peaceful world. In reality, the Imagine refrain was coined by Ono in reaction to her childhood in Japan during the second world war. ... According to The Sunday Times, the Imagine refrain can be found in several of her poems written in the early 1960s before she met Lennon.... in her book Grapefruit in 1965. Lennon himself admitted that Ono should have been jointly credited for the song. In an interview two days before his death, he said he had been too macho to reveal her role.

[AssKissinger]

I'm a pretty big Yoko Ono fan and I get tired of seeing her vilified. She's actually a great artist herself. She is influential in the creation of Revolution # 9 which was a cornerstone in bridging avant-garde to pop music and bringing collage in sound and tape loops to the public's attention. Some of her coolest music is very obscure but indeed excellent. One example of this is her work with a band called the Tater Tots on the album Alien Sleastacks from Brazil.

She stays in New York even after her husband's murder and 9/11. God Bless Her! Plus she's 70 now and still looks pretty damn good.



Have you ever seen this thing where she had strangers from the audience come up and cut her clothes off with scissors? It's cool.

[Big Booger]

I'm a pretty big Yoko Ono fan and I get tired of seeing her vilified. She's actually a great artist herself. She is influential in the creation of Revolution # 9 which was a cornerstone in bridging avant-garde to pop music and bringing collage in sound and tape loops to the public's attention. Some of her coolest music is very obscure but indeed excellent. One example of this is her work with a band called the Tater Tots on the album Alien Sleastacks from Brazil.

She stays in New York even after her husband's murder and 9/11. God Bless Her! Plus she's 70 now and still looks pretty damn good.



Have you ever seen this thing where she had strangers from the audience come up and cut her clothes off with scissors? It's cool.

Ok, who's pipe you been puffin on? Someone slip LSD in your coffee? I hate Yoko Ono. I've seen several documentaries, read some articles, seen her artwork.. not a fan.. never will be..

I think she ruined the Beatles and I just wished she'd disappear..

[AssKissinger]

Maybe if YOU were hitting the pipe more or dosed up on trips you'd get it about Yoko.

Ok, who's pipe you been puffin on? Someone slip LSD in your coffee?

[Andocrates]

The Beatles were a bit before my time (but not much) so I never got the whole Beatle thing. But I think you should read about Yoko Ono's life before you judge her. Why do we adore Andy Warhol and despise Yoko Ono, they are like exactly the same. I think the Beatles were, by and large, very shallow and selfish men. It seems to me Yoko was good for John Lennon.


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During the war I was in Japan and one day there was a radio programme where the soldiers who were the Kamikaze pilots. Before they were leaving they were allowed to say something on the radio to their parents or family.

And they all said: "Mummy, I'm going now and I wish you a long life," or something like that.

It was just the most horrific thing that I've heard and I'll never forget that, I'll never forget that.

What an incredibly cruel thing to do to any human being.

I think that changed my whole idea about war.

I was a young girl so I really didn't know what war was, except that it's very frightening.

And every night I had to go into a shelter when the bombers came overhead.

But just the cruelty of that was too much, I thought. There was nothing noble about the war.

I mean, there was propaganda in both countries I'm sure, saying "It's a noble war, we have to do it", or something like that.

But when you get down to that then you know it's cruel and totally wasteful." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3058721.stm

[AssKissinger]

Why do we adore Andy Warhol and despise Yoko Ono,

Great point. And fantasic Ono quote. Very powerful. Nice work.

[American Oyaji]

How could one woman break up a group of friends?

I don't buy that load of shite for a nanosecond.

If they broke up.....they seeds for the break up were already there.

As for Yoko's part. All these years and she NEVER claimed credit for "Imagine". Never said it was her song or her lyrics. Never made a fuss about it. But the truth will out.

[Steve Bildermann]

Just for information we've discussed Ono Yoko before.

http://www.fuckedgaijin.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12591#post12591

[Andocrates]

I said the same thing in both posts! I'm not sure what that means but it can't be good.

[Steve Bildermann]

Oh dear, consistency. How awful.

At this point many people (mis)recall the quote by Ralph Waldo Emerson

Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds

In actual facts the full and much more pertinent quote is

A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines.

The trick is knowing (especially in Japan) when you are dealing with (or you are committing to) the second.

Microsoft discussing how To avoid foolish Consistency

In rare cases, consistency can become a self-perpetuating monster: It has to be used for a purpose. A foolish consistency is one that serves no benefit for the end user. Making things look and work the same is pointless if the user can no longer accomplish their tasks. Rank making things useful above making them consistent.

[Big Booger]

I hate her. She rode the back of JL, to get fame and fortune. She may have not been the root of the Beatles issues, but I think she was the straw that broke the camels back.

And you can call her work great or whatever, but I personally think she is a terrible artist. I saw a Discovery Channel biography on her, and what she was doing currently at the time, opened some gallery where she let people cut clothes off her body... not appealing to me at all...

And she inspired Lennon to write that song, "Oh Yoko".. as I said before. Should have been called "oh sucko"

[yellowlightman]

I agree Big, seems like all she's done is milk Lennon's death for the past 20 years. She was nothing before she met Lennon, and has only managed to stay in people's minds because of being married to him.

Bleh.

[Steve Bildermann]

I guess she heard we were discussing her artistic merits and decided to give all her fans here on FG a bonus. Guess what she's gettin nekkid again! FYI Date of Birth 18 February 1933 (you do the math)

Ono bares all for peace - again

On September 15 she will recreate Cut Piece, at the Theatre le Ranelagh, almost 40 years after she first performed it in 1964 in Japan.

As in the original, she will stand on the stage wearing a long white gown, before inviting the audience to cut pieces from it. This time she will invite the members of the audience to cut a piece smaller than a postcard out of her clothing, "wherever you like", and send the scrap of fabric to someone they love.

[Big Booger]

Is she wearing depends diapers?


She is a sicko. Does she not realize that some people might get sickened by this? She says she's doing it for love:

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?lp=zh_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmember.netease.com%2F%7Eljh11%2Fdl%2Frjxz.htm

But I think she's doing it for the grotesque factor. She wants people to get sickened by showing her naked body.. ewwww.. I pity all those that come to see that..

[Taro Toporific]

I guess she heard we were discussing her artistic merits and decided to give all her fans here on FG a bonus. Guess what she's gettin nekkid again! FYI Date of Birth 18 February 1933 (you do the math)

Sean Lennon cuts away with scissors a piece of his artist mother Yoko Ono''s dress as she repeats her 1960s performance 'Cut Piece', in Paris Monday Sept. 15, 2003. AP




Full size photo here

[Steve Bildermann]

Ok guys we're back on the Ono Yoko story....

Yoko Edits Herself Into John Lennon's History

Yoko Ono is not making fans of John Lennon very happy right now. She's been busy editing Lennon's videos and changing songwriting credits. Call it her revenge on old enemies like Paul McCartney and May Pang.

Ono's weirdest piece of video trickery comes on the recently released DVD "Lennon Legend: The Very Best of John Lennon." On one film, for the classic song "#9 Dream," Ono has edited herself into the original video. There you will find her mouthing the backup vocals that were sung on the original hit recording by Lennon's girlfriend at that time, May Pang.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,106198,00.html

Official May Pang Website

May Pang was drawn into a romantic relationship with John Lennon in 1973, at the insistance of his wife, Yoko Ono. It is perhaps one of the most unusual love affairs of all-time, still perplexing Lennon fans around the world after almost 30 years.

Last year, in his own bid for more immortality, McCartney wanted Ono to let him drop Lennon's name from the Beatle songs he didn't write. When that didn't work, McCartney reversed the traditional order so they read "McCartney-Lennon." Now it seems Ono — who took umbrage at McCartney — has gotten her revenge.