The Wards of Tokyo and Fucked Gaijins

[yanpa]

My wife's aunt and her husband live in Hiroo. I their place is paid for not with their own money.

It's an apaato in a danchi if you must know.

this comment cannot help but makes me guess your wife is a descendant of z-people as in case of kurogane.
its super hyper ultra crazy hard to win the lotteries to move into danchis(公団住宅) of the central area of tokyo, yokohama, osaka and other big j-cities if you are regular japanese. but if you are a descendant of z-people, its not so hard as regular japanese to win it. z-people can preferentially move into danchis.
there seems to be a high affinity between z-people and gaijins, indeed. yea.

Your paranoia is touching.

[yanpa]

..Anybody want to relate any info about the wards of Tokyo and how the Jp classify them?

A Tokyo ward or city is probably too broad a definition or classification to be useful; especially if you consider the "zoning diversity" or general lack thereof.

Certain neighborhoods provide better cues ... but still, you could live in Den En Chofu, SeijoGakuenMae, Azabu, Meijiro, Omotesando etc... but in a 1979 1DK public housing project similar to what yanpa indicated about his in-law's in Hiroo.

Some descriptions are very specific ... for example, "Roppongi Hills" generally it taken to mean it's one of the residential towers bearing that name...

Although most people will indicate the Western-style tree-lined residential boulevards of neighborhoods like Den En Chofu & Seijigakuenmae etc., I was surprised a few years ago when I visited a house in Edogawa Ward along the Arakawa river...

Interesting response. Yep, on reflection and further info, from you and other posters, Tokyo's more of a mixed bag than I thought. A gaijin mate's co-worker moved into Meguro early last year but as he said, for a ward with a rep for being affluent, he's noted a continuous procession of shabby older men hanging around riding around on bicycles and chucking rubbish and beer cans in the local parks.

It seems that Meguro's got some very ordinary areas with poorer older people but the name's enough for people moving in esp gaijin to be charged more for rent.

He also reckoned that it's a fairly unfriendly place throughout - he said the genuinely affluent areas have notably snobbish attitudes from a fair few of the residents and the more ordinary and lower class areas have more than their fair share of unfriendly, surly residents.

He was in Kamata (Ota Ward) before and he said the people are much better - acknowledged his greetings in the neighbourhood and liked it when he admired their dogs when they were out walking their pets.

He also said the ward office treated him like a human being from the first day he walked in. He said Ota Ward office is friendly and the staff acknowledged him straight away when he went in to do any business.

By contrast supposedly more 'sophsiticated' Meguro has some doozies in the ward office who made sure they avoided coming to the counter when he first went there until he asked in Jp if anybody was going to talk to him. He said they still do the staring at the keyboard act instead of asking how can they help, and not only to his gaijin face.

Strange-sounding place, this Meguro. I've lived in Setagaya (for the record nearest station was Seijo Gakuenmae, though it was a 20 minute walk through the posh parts), Shibuya, Shinjuku and Nerima, usual service from all kuyakoshos.

[omae mona]

By contrast supposedly more 'sophsiticated' Meguro has some doozies in the ward office who made sure they avoided coming to the counter when he first went there until he asked in Jp if anybody was going to talk to him. He said they still do the staring at the keyboard act instead of asking how can they help, and not only to his gaijin face.

Strange-sounding place, this Meguro. I've lived in Setagaya (for the record nearest station was Seijo Gakuenmae, though it was a 20 minute walk through the posh parts), Shibuya, Shinjuku and Nerima, usual service from all kuyakoshos.

I lived in Meguro once a long time ago. Normal service, and by normal I mean very good. They must have upgraded since then.

Or maybe wangta's friend did not realize that not all windows are for "uketsuke" where you start a new transaction... some of them are only for when they call you back from the waiting area or you have an appointment. They might tend to ignore you if you were standing there without being expected.

[legion]

I used to love the way my city office had the pet registration window next to the gaijin card issuing window. Calculated ojisan insult I think. Bit like putting the big immigration office next to the gomi reprocessing plant in Shinagawa.

[yanpa]

I used to love the way my city office had the pet registration window next to the gaijin card issuing window. Calculated ojisan insult I think. Bit like putting the big immigration office next to the gomi reprocessing plant in Shinagawa.

Try Tachikawa, you can combine it with a shaken. The general atmosphere puts me in mind of when I had some dealings with my unemployment office in the former East Berlin.

Now, have you ever considered taking your family to the UK? I hear the non-refundable application fee starts at a low 4-figure sum (in GBP) and all the kafkaesque bureaucracy you can eat.

[legion]

I used to love the way my city office had the pet registration window next to the gaijin card issuing window. Calculated ojisan insult I think. Bit like putting the big immigration office next to the gomi reprocessing plant in Shinagawa.

Try Tachikawa, you can combine it with a shaken. The general atmosphere puts me in mind of when I had some dealings with my unemployment office in the former East Berlin.

Now, have you ever considered taking your family to the UK? I hear the non-refundable application fee starts at a low 4-figure sum (in GBP) and all the kafkaesque bureaucracy you can eat.

I use Tachikawa, guess next time will be to renew my gaijin card. My favourite was the branch office in, if my memory serves, Kayabacho, all it had was a bus stop and three tiers of expressway above it.

I have never seriously considered moving my family to the UK, the visa rules are just one deterrent, though I think we are unconsidered victims of post imperial malaise on that one.

[wangta]

By contrast supposedly more 'sophsiticated' Meguro has some doozies in the ward office who made sure they avoided coming to the counter when he first went there until he asked in Jp if anybody was going to talk to him. He said they still do the staring at the keyboard act instead of asking how can they help, and not only to his gaijin face.

Strange-sounding place, this Meguro. I've lived in Setagaya (for the record nearest station was Seijo Gakuenmae, though it was a 20 minute walk through the posh parts), Shibuya, Shinjuku and Nerima, usual service from all kuyakoshos.

I lived in Meguro once a long time ago. Normal service, and by normal I mean very good. They must have upgraded since then.

Or maybe wangta's friend did not realize that not all windows are for "uketsuke" where you start a new transaction... some of them are only for when they call you back from the waiting area or you have an appointment. They might tend to ignore you if you were standing there without being expected.

Fuck yes, it was him, not the staff at Meguro ward office.

He he DID look weird cause when I saw him again recently, he was wearing a seriously bad taste t shirt with his hoodie. The t shirt was one of those real underground types showing a big photo of a bloke who looked like the devil with needles (the sewing kind) all thru his face. The t shirt was hard to ignore and he told me he wore that to the ward office. Along with his cool chain that just happens to have a row of small skulls made from bone hanging on it.

So now I get why the good officers of Meguro Ward weren't keen to bounce up to the counter and talk to him straight away.

[Coligny]

It's nails ya fuckin' wanka...

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