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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby wagyl » Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:07 am

matsuki wrote:pretty fast.

Yeah, I suppose the 27 years since the release of Groove is in the Heart qualifies as "pretty fast."
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby matsuki » Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:51 am

wagyl wrote:
matsuki wrote:pretty fast.

Yeah, I suppose the 27 years since the release of Groove is in the Heart qualifies as "pretty fast."


He was based out of NY then but that wasn't exactly playing big city clubs but since you mention it, he left the group after 4 years:

He hinted in a 2011 interview that his time with Deee-Lite made him ill, though he didn't expand on the reasons why


....but this is what I was referring to.

Flash surfaced in 2005 by which time Towa was DJing regularly in Japan. He has admitted though, that he doesn't enjoy performing and prefers producing and using computers


Anyhow, his website alone shows that while he prefers life in a box, he thinks outside the box....

http://www.towatei.com
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Takechanpoo » Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:02 pm


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South Korea did not follow suit. According to Mr Nhat, a Ho Chi Minh City-based travel agent, an estimated 800 rape victims are still living and now determined to tell their stories. They want South Korea to recognise the children its soldiers fathered.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 40846.html

Exemplary of this is the Lai Dai Han community, consisting of Vietnamese of mixed Korean descent – the result of brutal rapes committed on Vietnamese women by South Korean soldiers during the Vietnam War. To this day, the South Korean government has not apologized to the victims for the sexual assaults committed by their troops. Today, some 30,000 Lai Dan Han children live on the fringes of society as a result of their mixed ethnicity.

Even worse, Hanoi is not keen on letting the Lai Dai Han issue resurface. However, the community is becoming increasingly vocal in its quest for public awareness and obtaining formal apologies from South Korea’s government. A petition was circulated in 2015, and senior US officials spoke out in their defense. For its part, Vietnam is remaining quiet for political convenience: the country wants to look to the future, and South Korea wants to forget about its role in the war. Therefore, much like the Khmer Krom, the Lai Dan Han have little hope to emerge from the margins of society, let alone receive an apology from Seoul.

http://unpo.org/article/20328

During the Vietnam War from 1955 to 1975, Vietnamese women and girls, some as young as 13 or 14 years old, gave birth to thousands of children after being assaulted by Korean soldiers. Derogatorily called “Lai Dai Han” (literally “mixed-blood”), many of these children live in shame and abject poverty today.

Despite repeated pleas from survivors, South Korea has staunchly refused to recognise horrendous crimes during the war, let alone issue a formal apology. In a 2013 press statement, a defence ministry spokesman audaciously declared that “such intentional, organised and systemised civilian massacres by the Korean army is impossible” and that because the Korean military followed strict rules, “there was no sexual exploitation of Vietnamese women”.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/5050/aman ... heast-asia


but unfortunately vietnamese and their government are neither sticky monster claimer nor tragic heroine wanker unlike korean.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Takechanpoo » Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:16 pm

South Korea’s flagship research ship Isabu seems to have sailed into a controversy with the Japanese government over its name. The incident has hindered some oceanographic research collaborations between the two countries.

The ship’s name refers to a sixth-century Korean general, Kim Isabu. In South Korea, he is known for his maritime conquests, which in some historical accounts included two islets that are the subject of a decades-long territorial dispute between South Korea and Japan.


Sang-Mook Lee, a marine geophysicist at Seoul National University, says that disruptions to the two countries’ research collaborations will restrict the ship’s scientific capability. “Had we known that the Japanese would react in such a way, I don’t think Koreans would have chosen the name,” he says.

But the senior JAMSTEC researcher says that the dispute is unlikely to have a major impact on Japan’s marine research because the country has its own research ships and marine projects. Even so, he is upset that the ship was given such a politically-charged name: “Scientists should be politically neutral.”

http://www.nature.com/news/marine-scien ... ip-1.22621

the writer is probably biologically a korean adopted by polish descendant couple, i guess.
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if it is so, its still surprising there exist some korean who can write a fair rational objective article about japan.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby TennoChinko » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:01 pm

Takechanpoo,

You seem obsessed with Koreans almost with the same intensity Koreans seem to hold a grudge against Japanese ( and everyone else). “Almost”, mind you.

Apparently, there is a ‘cultural/psychological’ term they use to describe what many acknowledge seems to be a dominant trait amongst Koreans. Almost a mental disease. “Han” or “恨”:

‘Han’
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_(cultural)

The minjung theologian Suh Nam-dong describes han as a "feeling of unresolved resentment against injustices suffered, a sense of helplessness because of the overwhelming odds against one, a feeling of acute pain in one's guts and bowels, making the whole body writhe and squirm, and an obstinate urge to take revenge and to right the wrong—all these combined."


恨
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%81%A8

The Mother of all grudges embodied within the entire borg of Koreans.

No wonder so many wear that permanently pissed off look on their faces.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby legion » Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:34 pm

Which is why you should feel sympathy. Like racists, they carry a terrible burden.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby TennoChinko » Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:52 am

legion wrote:Which is why you should feel sympathy. Like racists, they carry a terrible burden.


Any sympathy one might feel is quickly overwhelmed by their obnoxious demanding and whining attitude.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby matsuki » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:38 am

TennoChinko wrote:
legion wrote:Which is why you should feel sympathy. Like racists, they carry a terrible burden.


Any sympathy one might feel is quickly overwhelmed by their obnoxious demanding and whining attitude.


...or the whole hive mentality that that all their pride/self worth is inextricably linked to the borg.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Takechanpoo » Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:25 pm

what i and some of the recent japanese have obsession with about korea is not korea itself but their anti-japan activities.
there is an tendency that western societies, especially the "generous" people called liberal, naively believe koreans distorted, fabricated and ridicurously-tragetized claims about japan without careful and thorough verifications(koreans are really good at performing to be poor-looking innocent victim as you know) because almost all of westerners are not interested in and dont have enough knowledge about the history of japan and far-east asia and they mostly judge by only the superficial impressions and koreans are so persistent as hell. we japanese should no longer overlook the korean scattering the wrong knowledge about japan.
thats it.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby legion » Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:52 am

matsuki wrote:
TennoChinko wrote:
legion wrote:Which is why you should feel sympathy. Like racists, they carry a terrible burden.


Any sympathy one might feel is quickly overwhelmed by their obnoxious demanding and whining attitude.


...or the whole hive mentality that that all their pride/self worth is inextricably linked to the borg.


bit like the gaijin who mention they are from some famous city and wait a couple of seconds for the obligatory "kakko ii"
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Mike Oxlong » Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:58 am

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legion wrote:
matsuki wrote:
TennoChinko wrote:
legion wrote:Which is why you should feel sympathy. Like racists, they carry a terrible burden.


Any sympathy one might feel is quickly overwhelmed by their obnoxious demanding and whining attitude.


...or the whole hive mentality that that all their pride/self worth is inextricably linked to the borg.


bit like the gaijin who mention they are from some famous city and wait a couple of seconds for the obligatory "kakko ii"
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby matsuki » Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:11 am

legion wrote:
matsuki wrote:
TennoChinko wrote:
legion wrote:Which is why you should feel sympathy. Like racists, they carry a terrible burden.


Any sympathy one might feel is quickly overwhelmed by their obnoxious demanding and whining attitude.


...or the whole hive mentality that that all their pride/self worth is inextricably linked to the borg.


bit like the gaijin who mention they are from some famous city and wait a couple of seconds for the obligatory "kakko ii"


LOL, the times I've seen that go down, their swelling ego is often punctured a few seconds later when it becomes clear the local has no clue where said famous city is or know anything about it. Even better when they are obviously confusing it with another city.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Takechanpoo » Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:04 pm

actually the world peoples naively believe j-colonization in korea was unutterably evil and brutal because of koreans persistent long-time propagandas, in spite of the fact that among the colonizations by ex-major powers, in reality j-colonization in korea was undoubtedly most dedicated and beneficial towards the colonized people.(of course some destructions and bullyings unfortunately happened, though)
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Wage Slave » Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:13 pm

Not according to your beloved racist to the core source it wasn't.

it is therefore impossible
to accept, without careful verification,
the statements which they make with
regard to Japanese misbehavior; but I
am satisfied, from cases that I have,
investigated, and from the testimony of
the Japanese themselves, that the natives
have good ground for complaint'.


The Korean people
are ignorant, untrustworthy, degenerate
—call them what you like—but a nation
seldom falls so low that its component
members are unable to discriminate
between justice and injustice—between
a policy which gives them protection and
a policy which neglects or disregards
their personal rights.


For lots more about how dishonest, dreadful, cruel, unjust and downright incompetent Japanese rule in Korea was visit your own source:

http://www.unz.org/Pub/Outlook-1905nov11-00609
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Takechanpoo » Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:49 pm

its actually one of the important reference materials about j-colonization. but no more than it.
begging the question, selective abstraction, fallacy of composition.
as is said before you do need to learn the basic of reasoning.

no doubt that j-colonization in korea was RELATIVELY most dedicated and beneficial towards the natives among the colonizations by ex-majors.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Wage Slave » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:01 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:its actually one of the important reference materials about j-colonization. but no more than it.
begging the question, selective abstraction, fallacy of composition.
as is said before you do need to learn the basic of reasoning.

no doubt that j-colonization in korea was RELATIVELY most dedicated and beneficial towards the natives among the colonizations by ex-majors.


All I can say is you clearly haven't read the article. He has nothing good to say about Japanese colonisation at all - I could give you quote after quote after quote.

Why you would think it is a source that supports your claims is beyond me.

And why you think it is a credible source is also beyond me. The man is a Victorian adventurer dependent on his readers for his living. He was published in a for profit weekly magazines of news and opinion that had to pander to the prejudices of the day and its readers. It was the third best selling weekly magazine in the US at that time. His specialisation was not Korea/Japan at all but Russia. Most, if not all, was probably made up just to earn a crust. He gives no supporting evidence or references at all.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Takechanpoo » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:28 pm

its one of descriptions about just a little before imperial japan colonized korea(but already a protected country of japan.) and useful to speculate how j-colonization was at the grass root level. but by only that, you cannot judge the whole of that eras korea protected and colonized by imp japan. you cant understand such an easy thing? amazing
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Wage Slave » Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:00 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:just a little before imperial japan colonized korea(but already a protected country of japan.)


Interesting you mentioned an alleged lack of dishonesty earlier on. This was one of his criticisms - a protected country :lol: Yeah sure, like the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere eh? :lol:

He alleges systemic bungling, cruelty, exploitation and dishonesty.

Anyway, it's not for me to provide evidence for your claims, it's for you. And you have provided nothing except this source which is very low quality and even if it weren't, it points to the opposite of what you claim.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Mike Oxlong » Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:19 pm

Interestingly the Taiwanese don't seem to harbor many grudges against the Japanese, and even seem to get on reasonably well with them.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Wage Slave » Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:24 pm

Mike Oxlong wrote:Interestingly the Taiwanese don't seem to harbor many grudges against the Japanese, and even seem to get on reasonably well with them.


Yeah, but ask Burmese or Singaporeans or Malaysian Chinese what they remember. Indonesians though are quite positive though the reign was very short. It varied country by country. It wasn't ever all that well centrally organised and run from what I can see.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Takechanpoo » Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:46 pm

it should be protectorate, not protected country. unfortunately damn english is not my mother tongue. its very unfortunate. hell yea



as for taiwan, since post-war, the taiwanese government has adopted a pro-japan policy to countervail the mainland china.
comparing taiwan to korea is a good sample to show that national sentiment is easily changeable by the government policies.

and to be frankly, you are an idiot grouping the colonization in taiwan and korea together with those "colonizations" in southeast asia in ww2. judging from your comments, its apparent that you havent ever systematically and comprehensively studied the j-colonization in korea. if so, just refrain from comment about it and dont pretend to know it.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Wage Slave » Tue Sep 26, 2017 5:29 pm

You missed the point as always. It wasn't a protectorate it was a colony in all but name. In other words the Japanese Government lied about it. According to your source anyway.

And if you are going to make grand claims about Japanese colonisation then tough - the record is the record.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby matsuki » Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:56 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:no doubt that j-colonization in korea was RELATIVELY most dedicated and beneficial towards the natives among the colonizations by ex-majors.


Relative...to what? Sounds just like Europeans claiming colonization of the Americas was beneficial towards the natives. Those bible thumping assholes excused the atrocities committed against the natives by claiming they were not human...we've seen the same mentality from J-colonization only it's 2017 and the official stance of Japan is still human rights still only apply to the Japanese.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Takechanpoo » Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:58 pm

It wasn't a protectorate it was a colony in all but name. In other words the Japanese Government lied about it.

what is this guy talking???

your brain seems to be a allergic constitution or a traumatic consititution. it cannot rationally cope with what it once has had a allergy or trauma. in other words its primitive.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Wage Slave » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:35 am

Yeah yeah. How about some evidence for your claims then?

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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby matsuki » Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:24 pm

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Japan was missing from the Korean Olympic maps. Always with the class!
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Takechanpoo » Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:18 pm

Yeah yeah. How about some evidence for your claims then?

a judgement emerges from relationships between numerous materials.
you tell me to list all of them, dont you? kidding me? huh? what does internet exist for? eh? moron. and its pretty insufficient to judge j-historic things by only reading english-written matierials. you do need to always assume there might be another things not written in english.
or just say what you come to mind on the spot out of spite to keep your shabby face?
im sure the latter.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Wage Slave » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:06 pm

I'll take that as a no then. Anyone else persuaded by this clown's completely unsupported claim that Japanese colonisation in Korea was "undoubtedly most dedicated and beneficial towards the colonized people."?

Don't all rush now. :lol:
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:41 am

Wage Slave wrote:I'll take that as a no then. Anyone else persuaded by this clown's completely unsupported claim that Japanese colonisation in Korea was "undoubtedly most dedicated and beneficial towards the colonized people."?

Don't all rush now. :lol:


Japan established the bulk of Korea's modern infrastructure during the colonial period and in the postwar period has poured billions of dollars into developing the South Korean economy. In terms of imperialist powers dragged kicking and screaming from a former colony, Japan has been pretty reasonable in its approach to the Koreas.
Japan was certainly a more benevolent colonizer than most of the European imperial powers.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby wagyl » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:54 am

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:Japan was certainly a more benevolent colonizer than most of the European imperial powers.

Perhaps not intentionally so. The colonial period investment in infrastructure was with the intention of supporting Japanese business and investors in the the country, and post-war investment was largely attempts at appeasement, building a market for Japanese manufacture, and then seeking license payments for use of Japanese developed technology. That is ignoring that portion of Japanese investment in Korea which is by ethnic Koreans with Japanese residence.

It could be argued that the fact that Korea was also a benefactor of Japanese investment in Korea was just collateral damagebenefit.
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