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Re: Japan Scandal Inc.

Postby Thanatos' embalmed botfly » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:50 pm

Smuggled Transcript of Interned Nissan CEO Carlos Ghosn's Interrogation.

Day 67

Cops: "OI! GAIJIN! WAKE UP! CAN I GET AUTOGRAPH? PLEASE, YOU SIGN HERE, OMEEEH. IT FOR MY, UH, MY NEPHEW.
Ghosn: "Haha, nice try.
Cops: "SIGN HERE, TOYOTA.
Ghosn: "Sorry, what? Toyota?
Cops: "TOYOTA IS OMEEEH. WE CHANGE YOUR SURNAME BY DEED POLL FROM GHOSN TO TOYOTA. BECAUSE DISGRACE TO NISSAN.
Ghosn: "I see...
Cops: "SIGN HERE, CHUCKY.
Ghosn: "Who's Chucky?
Cops: "OMEEEH. WE ALSO CHANGE YOU FIRST NAME. YOU FULL NAME NOW CHUCKY TOYOTA. LIKE HORROR SHOW. JUST SIGN YOU CONFESS TO STEAL HONEST JAPANESE SHAREHOLDER MONEY OMEEH. CONFESS.
Ghosn: "For the 1,000th time, Nissan have all the paperwork, they signed off on my salary, why the hell am I in...
Cops: "CONFESS STEAL DOROBO CHUCKY. THEN YOU GO HOME TO CASTLE AND MAYBACH AND ROLLS AND DAILY COCK MASSAGE. CONFESS OMEEEEEHH.
Ghosn: "By the way, while you're here, could I please get some other food other than rice? It's been breakfast lunch and dinner every day for 67 days in a r
Cops: "WHY YOU HATE JAPANESE CUISINE OMEEEH? JAPANESE CUISINE IS WORLD FAMOUS. MICHELIN 5 STAR OCTOPII BUKKAKE.
Ghosn: "What?
Cops: "CONFESS.
Ghosn: "I...
Cops: "OMAI WA G-U-I-T-U-L-I-Y-T-Y. THAT SPELL GUILTY.
Ghosn: "That doesn't spell guilty at al
Cops: "FUCK YOU TOYOTA MR BEAN FACE."
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Re: Japan Scandal Inc.

Postby Taro Toporific » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:30 am

Wouldn't you know???

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Re: Japan Scandal Inc.

Postby Taro Toporific » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:12 pm

Japan, Endless Detention™ .


Prosecutors will indict Carlos Ghosn again on Friday, when his current detention period is set to end...

Source says prosecutors will indict Carlos Ghosn again on Friday, when his current detention period is set to end
REUTERS, KYODO | Jan. 10, 2019
Prosecutors plan to indict former Nissan Motor Co. Chairman Carlos Ghosn on two more charges of financial misconduct on Friday, a person with knowledge of the issue said, bringing the total number of charges against him to three.
Interrogation of Ghosn has been suspended, one of his lawyers had said earlier on Thursday, because the former Nissan chief had been experiencing a high fever since Wednesday evening and was prescribed rest by a doctor.
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Re: Japan Scandal Inc.

Postby Wage Slave » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:38 pm

So the tax dodging charges stand?

"Ghosn, who has been detained since his initial arrest on Nov. 19 and whose current detention period is set to end Friday, is now expected to be formally charged on the day with aggravated breach of trust for temporarily transferring personal investment losses to Nissan in 2008, as well as for understating his compensation for three years through 2018. The charges, which have been widely expected, add to an earlier charge of under-reporting his income by around half through 2015."

Under-reporting his income to whom? He has denied under-reporting to Nissan so presumably to the NTA.
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Re: Japan Scandal Inc.

Postby Russell » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:33 pm

Wage Slave wrote:So the tax dodging charges stand?

"Ghosn, who has been detained since his initial arrest on Nov. 19 and whose current detention period is set to end Friday, is now expected to be formally charged on the day with aggravated breach of trust for temporarily transferring personal investment losses to Nissan in 2008, as well as for understating his compensation for three years through 2018. The charges, which have been widely expected, add to an earlier charge of under-reporting his income by around half through 2015."

Under-reporting his income to whom? He has denied under-reporting to Nissan so presumably to the NTA.

Isn't it the duty of Nissan Inc. to report to the NTA?
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Re: Japan Scandal Inc.

Postby matsuki » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:42 pm

Wage Slave wrote:Under-reporting his income to whom? He has denied under-reporting to Nissan so presumably to the NTA.


I wonder what his actual tax liabilities are here...

Still seems way shaky to indict him.
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Re: Japan Scandal Inc.

Postby Wage Slave » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:51 pm

Russell wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:So the tax dodging charges stand?

"Ghosn, who has been detained since his initial arrest on Nov. 19 and whose current detention period is set to end Friday, is now expected to be formally charged on the day with aggravated breach of trust for temporarily transferring personal investment losses to Nissan in 2008, as well as for understating his compensation for three years through 2018. The charges, which have been widely expected, add to an earlier charge of under-reporting his income by around half through 2015."

Under-reporting his income to whom? He has denied under-reporting to Nissan so presumably to the NTA.

Isn't it the duty of Nissan Inc. to report to the NTA?


I suppose that is correct, at least for income in Japan. Maybe that's how the thing got started?
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Re: Japan Scandal Inc.

Postby Wage Slave » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:53 pm

matsuki wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:Under-reporting his income to whom? He has denied under-reporting to Nissan so presumably to the NTA.


I wonder what his actual tax liabilities are here...

Still seems way shaky to indict him.


He wouldn't be the first very rich man to be done and imprisoned for tax dodging. What was the name of that owner of GEOS again?
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Re: Japan Scandal Inc.

Postby wuchan » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:15 pm

Wage Slave wrote:
matsuki wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:Under-reporting his income to whom? He has denied under-reporting to Nissan so presumably to the NTA.


I wonder what his actual tax liabilities are here...

Still seems way shaky to indict him.


He wouldn't be the first very rich man to be done and imprisoned for tax dodging. What was the name of that owner of GEOS again?

Yamaguchi or something?
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Re: Japan Scandal Inc.

Postby matsuki » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:01 am

Wage Slave wrote:
matsuki wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:Under-reporting his income to whom? He has denied under-reporting to Nissan so presumably to the NTA.


I wonder what his actual tax liabilities are here...

Still seems way shaky to indict him.


He wouldn't be the first very rich man to be done and imprisoned for tax dodging. What was the name of that owner of GEOS again?
Right but my point is that depending on his status of residency and all that his tax liabilities can be very different than that of a Japanese national.

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Renault audit finds 'no fraud'

Postby matsuki » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:43 pm

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46833256

Following his arrest, Nissan and Mitsubishi removed Mr Ghosn as chairman. Renault has kept him on as chair, saying it has not yet found any evidence of wrongdoing.

On Thursday, the board of the French firm said an investigation into executive pay had so far shown no signs of fraud.

"The review process has examined the compensation of the current Groupe Renault Executive Committee members for the financial years 2017 and 2018 and has concluded that it is both in compliance with applicable laws and free from any fraud," it said in a statement.

It said the review process "will continue with respect to previous financial years".
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Re: Japan Scandal Inc.

Postby Mike Oxlong » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:07 pm

In related news, the head of the Japan Olympic Committee was indicted on corruption charges in France last December 10, it was revealed today. Something about bribery regarding their bid for the 2020 Games. He had been under investigation for some time.

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Re: Japan Scandal Inc.

Postby matsuki » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:58 am

Sounds like pachinko mentality is getting put to the test in kaigailand.

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Re: Japan Scandal Inc.

Postby matsuki » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:28 pm

Wifey isn't too happy with the 3rd world mentality in Japanese detention...

She said he is being held in a small, unheated cell and denied daily medication. He has lost weight since his detention, she said, and eats mainly rice and barley.

Last week, the 64-year-old looked visibly thinner when he appeared in court for the first time since his arrest on 19 November.

"I urge Human Rights Watch to highlight his case... to press the government to reform its draconian system of pretrial detention and interrogation," the letter said.

"No one should be forced to endure what my husband faces every day, particularly in a developed nation like Japan, the third largest economy in the world," the letter said.


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Re: Japan Scandal Inc.

Postby matsuki » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:39 pm

Gaijin purge?

The unexpected departure of Jose Munoz, one of the highest-ranking Westerners working for Nissan, is raising new concerns about what former executives and industry insiders warn could become a purge of foreigners linked to the Japanese automaker’s dethroned Chairman Carlos Ghosn.

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“They have 100 people assigned to dig up dirt on people and pressure them to either leave under disgrace or turn state witness against Ghosn,” he said. “Jose wasn’t going to do that. He felt they were going to fire him. To retain his dignity and to avoid a public fight he went ahead and quit.”

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Several people with direct knowledge of the matter indicated that Munoz wasn’t the only Nissan veteran who has been concerned about the handling of the Ghosn affair.

On Wednesday, Toshiyuki Shiga, a former chief operating officer at Nissan who has continued serving on the company’s board, announced he would retire at the end of his current term. Shiga issued a formal statement that said, “I think it’s time to make room for the next generation.” But several people close to Nissan have said Shiga privately expressed his concerns about Ghosn’s arrest and the way Nissan had handled the case.


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Re: Japan Scandal Inc.

Postby Mike Oxlong » Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:15 pm

JA: Nikkei, the mouthpiece of Keidanren and Nissan, just inadvertently confirmed Japanese executives conspired to get rid of Ghosn to block a de facto takeover by Renault. That means the evidence they provided is tainted and so is the prosecutor investigation.

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Re: Japan Scandal Inc.

Postby Grumpy Gramps » Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:56 pm

So, I guess it will be wise to not consider Nissan or Mitsubishi, when wanting to buy a new car in the next ~five to ten years or so.
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Postby Russell » Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:26 pm

Grumpy Gramps wrote:So, I guess it will be wise to not consider Nissan or Mitsubishi, when wanting to buy a new car in the next ~five to ten years or so.

Actually, I was considering to buy an electric car from Nissan within the next decade, but I put these plans on hold. Companies in which the internal politics stinks usually have problems with quality control. And Mitsubishi has never been on my roadmap.
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Postby matsuki » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:30 pm

Mike Oxlong wrote:JA: Nikkei, the mouthpiece of Keidanren and Nissan, just inadvertently confirmed Japanese executives conspired to get rid of Ghosn to block a de facto takeover by Renault. That means the evidence they provided is tainted and so is the prosecutor investigation.

https://t.co/D6dZzkRuwU


Smells about right...this Saikawa fellow seems like he's gonna end up as train splatter the way things are going. If things go that far, the prosecutors are definitely going to go after him and Nissan for this mess.

The past two years of dealing within major Japanese manufacturers has shown me how terrible companies here are managed by the locals and how the average workers might as be working in communist country as far as work ethic goes. We all know Japan isn't a meritocracy by my business partner (Japanese jiji) described their approach to work "like people holding a grenade...don't dare to make any risky movements and pass the grenade on to the next guy as soon as possible."
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Postby jingai » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:46 pm

I like that grenade metaphor- I'll remember that!
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Postby Taro Toporific » Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:40 pm

jingai wrote:I like that grenade metaphor- I'll remember that!


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Postby matsuki » Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:25 pm

Macron’s foray risks being seen as meddling in Japan’s justice system. When asked whether he thought the system fair, he said: “All I’ll say is that I felt the detention was too long and too hard, and I told Abe that,” adding that he wouldn’t comment on the legal basis of it all.


https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/ ... E6DNdUzaUk


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Postby dimwit » Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:19 pm

Hey that guy is good. Canada is looking for a new ambassador to China. He'd be perfect.
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Postby matsuki » Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:30 pm

Carlos Ghosn, the former chairman of Nissan, says that he has "no doubt" that allegations of financial misconduct levied against him by the Japanese car maker are a result of "plot and treason" by executives who did not want closer ties between alliance partners Renault, Nissan and Mitsubishi Motors.

In his first interview since being detained in Japan on 19 November, Mr Ghosn told Nikkei Asian Review "there was a plan to integrate" Renault, Nissan and Mitsubishi Motors.

He claimed that he wanted to include Mitsubishi Motors' chief executive Osamu Masuko in discussions but Nissan's president Hiroto Saikawa "wanted it one-on-one".


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Postby matsuki » Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:36 pm

In an unexpected twist, Nissan CEO Hiroto Saikawa, a former protege of Ghosn who led the campaign against his former boss, said he too intends to step down. The 65-year-old is ready to “pass the baton” in coming months after taking care of his top priority -- reforming the poor governance he says weakened the Japanese carmaker.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ance-reset

Anticipating a fall from grace much?
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Postby Russell » Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:50 pm

matsuki wrote:
In an unexpected twist, Nissan CEO Hiroto Saikawa, a former protege of Ghosn who led the campaign against his former boss, said he too intends to step down. The 65-year-old is ready to “pass the baton” in coming months after taking care of his top priority -- reforming the poor governance he says weakened the Japanese carmaker.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ance-reset

Anticipating a fall from grace much?

Maybe it was subtly made clear to him that he would eventually be called in for questioning. Apparently, they do not consider him a flight risk...
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Postby matsuki » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:23 pm

And beyond the boardroom, lawyers could take on the courtroom by arguing that Ghosn’s monthslong detention is arbitrary, Muraoka said. “The world needs to know that our criminal justice system is unfair.”


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Postby Russell » Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:06 am

matsuki wrote:
And beyond the boardroom, lawyers could take on the courtroom by arguing that Ghosn’s monthslong detention is arbitrary, Muraoka said. “The world needs to know that our criminal justice system is unfair.”


:clap: :cheers: :clap:

Well, eventually they let you go.

Isn't that fair? :wink:
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Re: Japan Scandal Inc.

Postby matsuki » Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:16 am

Russell wrote:
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And beyond the boardroom, lawyers could take on the courtroom by arguing that Ghosn’s monthslong detention is arbitrary, Muraoka said. “The world needs to know that our criminal justice system is unfair.”


:clap: :cheers: :clap:

Well, eventually they let you go.

Isn't that fair? :wink:


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Postby matsuki » Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:51 am

PARIS-Carlos Ghosn's lawyers have submitted a dossier to a United Nations' working group which showed that the former head of Renault's rights had been violated during detention in Japan, one if his lawyers said on Monday.

The document calls on the working group to acknowledge certain violations, declare the deprivation of liberty to which Ghosn is subjected to, and urge Japan to release him without delay with full compensation.


https://japantoday.com/category/crime/G ... violations

This is probably a good thing. Even is Ghosn is found guilty, the guilty until proven innocent mentality here is really fucked. Of course many of the locals already think he's guilty due to all the media hype initiated by the authorities. Saikawa is already pushing the "he wronged the Japanese people" narrative :rolleyes:
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