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"Oriental" themes in Western music

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Postby Mulboyne » Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:18 pm

I found this half hour BBC radio programme interesting.

"Chopsticks at Dawn" looks at how popular Western music has parodied "oriental" music. It mainly deals with Chinese themes but some of it applies to Japan. The programme is available to listen to until next Saturday.

One of the points mentioned in the programme is that real Chinese music didn't sound particularly Chinese to Western ears. Most people were unaware that Frankie Laine's "Rose, Rose I Love You" was originally a Chinese pop song.

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Postby American Oyaji » Sun Jun 13, 2010 1:37 pm

Mulboyne wrote:I found this half hour BBC radio programme interesting.

"Chopsticks at Dawn" looks at how popular Western music has parodied "oriental" music. It mainly deals with Chinese themes but some of it applies to Japan. The programme is available to listen to until next Saturday.

One of the points mentioned in the programme is that real Chinese music didn't sound particularly Chinese to Western ears. Most people were unaware that Frankie Laine's "Rose, Rose I Love You" was originally a Chinese pop song.


Wow! Thanks Mul. That was a really good listen and quite informative.

What's funny though is that from my time in Japan, when I hear the westernized cliche of asian music, I too cringe. ESPECIALLY when I hear it as a ringer on cell phones.

BTW, you should read some of the comments on her blog about that programme.

http://madammiaow.blogspot.com/search/label/Chopsticks%20At%20Dawn
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Postby Greji » Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:34 pm

American Oyaji wrote:Wow! Thanks Mul. That was a really good listen and quite informative.

I with you on that AO, thanks Mulby. I remember that song, but I didn't realize that the old Ghost Rider may have been bit by the YBF bug.
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Postby Coligny » Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:21 pm

Mulboyne wrote:I found this half hour BBC radio programme interesting.

"Chopsticks at Dawn" looks at how popular Western music has parodied "oriental" music. It mainly deals with Chinese themes but some of it applies to Japan. The programme is available to listen to until next Saturday.

One of the points mentioned in the programme is that real Chinese music didn't sound particularly Chinese to Western ears. Most people were unaware that Frankie Laine's "Rose, Rose I Love You" was originally a Chinese pop song.



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Postby hairygateau » Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:32 pm

This thread reminded me of a cheezy euro-trance cover of "Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence" that did the rounds on the dancefloors about 10 years ago in the UK.

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Postby GomiGirl » Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:28 pm

hairygateau wrote:This thread reminded me of a cheezy euro-trance cover of "Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence" that did the rounds on the dancefloors about 10 years ago in the UK.


Might be a bit longer than 10 years ago.

Thank you for posting that - it took me right back to some very happy times. :biggrin2:
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Re: "Oriental" themes in Western music

Postby Buraku » Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:59 am

How the West handed classical music over to China – and may not get it back
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/class ... -get-back/

The real songs behind the classic 'Super Mario Bros' theme tunes
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/real-songs ... ario-bros/

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Re: "Oriental" themes in Western music

Postby Coligny » Sat Dec 24, 2022 3:41 pm

That thread died 12 years ago, news at 11
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Re: "Oriental" themes in Western music

Postby Buraku » Sun May 07, 2023 7:12 pm

Noise and Music never died!


Music Lab Podcast: Singaporean singer-songwriter Nathan Hartono on his identity crisis after finding fame in China
https://www.straitstimes.com/life/enter ... e-in-china

Ryuichi Sakamoto death: Japanese electronic musician and film composer
https://sg.style.yahoo.com/ryuichi-saka ... 31357.html



Sakamoto released his first solo album Thousand Knives of Ryūichi Sakamoto in mid-1978 with the help of Hideki Matsutake—Hosono also contributed to the song "Thousand Knives". The album experimented with different styles, such as "Thousand Knives" and "The End of Asia"—in which electronic music was fused with traditional Japanese music—while "Grasshoppers" is a more minimalistic piano song. The album was recorded from April to July 1978 with a variety of electronic musical instruments, including various synthesizers, such as the KORG PS-3100, a polyphonic synthesizer; the Oberheim Eight-Voice; the Moog III-C; the Polymoog, the Minimoog; the Micromoog; the Korg VC-10, which is a vocoder; the KORG SQ-10, which is an analog sequencer; the Syn-Drums, an electronic drum kit; and the microprocessor-based Roland MC-8 Microcomposer, which is a music sequencer that was programmed by Matsutake and played by Sakamoto.A version of the song "Thousand Knives" was released on the Yellow Magic Orchestra's 1981 album BGM. This version was one of the earliest uses of the Roland TR-808 drum machine, for YMO's live performance of "1000 Knives" in 1980 and their BGM album release in 1981.
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