In Japan 2 months and still no girlfriend.

[GomiGirl]

Alcazar, I am not going to answer point by point.. however, the sorts of things that one of the other posters was saying was trying to decipher "what women thing/need/feel". As a member of the female gender, I couldn't relate to anything and so I replied with "bollocks".

But you seem to suggest that my opinion on this subject is invalid? Or that I am wrong about women? Am I not one? Perhaps you should listen to what a girl says for a change and not what you imagine she is thinking!!!

Perhaps if people spent less time playing strategic games while they are "on the prowl" and more time with their eyes and ears open, you may be able to understand the individual signals (subtle or otherwise) of other person you are talking with.

[ramchop]

Shit this is an old thread. The initial post makes good reading especially with "get" replaced by "badger".

So how long did it take anyway Neo? (yes I know the answer is readily available but I'm too lazy to look).

And how long will it take for Alcazar?

[NeoNecroNomiCron]

Shit this is an old thread. The initial post makes good reading especially with "get" replaced by "badger".

So how long did it take anyway Neo? (yes I know the answer is readily available but I'm too lazy to look).

And how long will it take for Alcazar?

I just read the first post not. Get this, its like the funniest post ever.

After that post probably like a week. Its been a long time.

At the moment I am actualy looking for a new girlfriend. I would like somebody young, impresionable, and likes to hang out in shibuya, and drinks in starbucks. Anybody interested pm me, I we can swap purikura pictures if you like.

[mr. sparkle]

cron,
what happened to skeletor then?


waddya think? how'bout 'dis one--kinda seku-shi?

[Caustic Saint]

If you are getting lucky or not getting lucky it is not because of some formula or because you are wearing a wedding ring or not..

It is a case of "sometimes you win and sometimes you lose". Get over yourselves and stop analysing it so much.

I'm going to have to side with GG on this one. And I'll provide a quote from the supreme authority on what women like - the Clitoris.

Dude, you just have to have confidence in yourself. Believe in yourself and others will believe in you. Chicks love confidence.

That's what it's all about. Why wait to see which chicks give you attention? You do that and you're limiting yourself to a smaller pool of possibilities. If you see a chick you like, approach her. If she shoots you down, fuck it - move on!

I've got friends who'll go out to a bar or club and totally over-analyze their chances with a chick. They'll work out some convoluted means to approach her, thinking they already know all about her and with their ideas of how she'll react or what she'll say. Most of the time they're wrong, and their approach is completely off-base. Why play these games? Just go up and say "hi" and introduce yourself.

Is that really so hard to do?

[Big Booger]

If you are getting lucky or not getting lucky it is not because of some formula or because you are wearing a wedding ring or not..

It is a case of "sometimes you win and sometimes you lose". Get over yourselves and stop analysing it so much.

I'm going to have to side with GG on this one. And I'll provide a quote from the supreme authority on what women like - the Clitoris.

Dude, you just have to have confidence in yourself. Believe in yourself and others will believe in you. Chicks love confidence.

That's what it's all about. Why wait to see which chicks give you attention? You do that and you're limiting yourself to a smaller pool of possibilities. If you see a chick you like, approach her. If she shoots you down, fuck it - move on!

I've got friends who'll go out to a bar or club and totally over-analyze their chances with a chick. They'll work out some convoluted means to approach her, thinking they already know all about her and with their ideas of how she'll react or what she'll say. Most of the time they're wrong, and their approach is completely off-base. Why play these games? Just go up and say "hi" and introduce yourself.

Is that really so hard to do?

Yeah but a lot of guys tend to think having confidence means being over-confident or even brash/cocky...

I think it is a balance of being real and being true to yourself instead of trying to portray some false image or "cool" demeanor...

[Caustic Saint]

Yeah but a lot of guys tend to think having confidence means being over-confident or even brash/cocky...

Well, those guys are the stupid ones.

I think it is a balance of being real and being true to yourself instead of trying to portray some false image or "cool" demeanor...

Yup.

[AssKissinger]

I don't think a serious approach is very effective. The I'm a serious cool dude thing doesn't work so well unless you're great looking. Having fun, that's the ticket. You gotta believe in Cyndy Lauper. "Girls just wanna have fun". She wants that good time to rub off on her, rub up against her and rub her the right way and so on. Take Gomi for example, which FG did she have the biggest clitoral hard-on for? Goofy-assed Shibuya Me, that's who! As for the learning Japanese thing I'll say this: If you can't really speak it don't try. Most gaijin don't even realize how terrible their Japanese is. Most 2nd year JHS students know more than the average English teacher. Not many gaijin get to a level higher than the average Japanese speaks English but a lot think they do. Don't pretend your Japanese is better than her English because it probably isn't.

[Alcazar]

Also acting not that interested in the girl is a good move, which is what I like to do. This is especially crucial with very attractive women, so you might talk to them but show indifferent to their presence.

Hard to do when the tendency is to actually be thinking 'Fuuuuuck, this girl is hot'!. You have to not care about what's happening in the moment. So what if she is really good looking, your life doesn't depend on impressing this one woman.

But that's the trick. If you don't care about the situation, you can relax, be cool (indifferent) and you get the girl. Sometimes a hard lesson to figure out, because guys get too nervous-which is totally understandable.

[Alcazar]

Take Gomi for example, which FG did she have the biggest clitoral hard-on for? Goofy-assed Shibuya Me, that's who!

W T F!!!! I didn't know about this - I'm jealous now.

[cstaylor]

Most 2nd year JHS students know more than the average English teacher.

The average kindergartner can speak more fluently in Japanese, at least in my experience with my niece. However, putting things together to form large constructions doesn't really come about until later in their development.

These little kids are sponges... I've got her telling my mother-in-law, "chill out, Grandma!" and "See you later, alligator" (yes, I know the phrases are old, but it's all in fun).

Sometimes she puts interesting replacements in for words she doesn't understand:

Me: "Hi! What's your name?"
Niece: "Mayonaise is ketchup" (My-name-is sounds like "mayonaise")

[Andocrates]

You guys are trying too hard. just feed them and act all macho. Japanese girls just love the bad boy image, and food.

[Alcazar]

You guys are trying too hard. just feed them and act all macho. Japanese girls just love the bad boy image, and food.

Oh well hell yeah, that's different. I was refering to Western women previously.

Japanese girls just love the bad boy image

How hard can that be when their reference point is J-men!!!
'Kawaiii, he has the bravery to ask a total stranger on the street for the time, so daring desu ne?'. Sounds good to me....

[AssKissinger]

Most 2nd year JHS students know more than the average English teacher.

The average kindergartner can speak more fluently in Japanese, at least in my experience with my niece. (My-name-is sounds like "mayonaise")

I mean the average 2nd year JPN JHS student can speak English better than the average ESL teacher can speak Japanese. Of course, kindergarten kids can blow you away in Japanese!

[GomiGirl]

Take Gomi for example, which FG did she have the biggest clitoral hard-on for? Goofy-assed Shibuya Me, that's who!

Says who?

Sheesh - again people making assumptions without asking the person concerned, namely me. I mean this is a web-board - I am hardly going to give you an indepth account of what happens in my sex life.

[Alcazar]

I'm pretty sure he was joking around!

[AssKissinger]

Take Gomi for example, which FG did she have the biggest clitoral hard-on for? Goofy-assed Shibuya Me, that's who!

Says who?

Sheesh - again people making assumptions without asking the person concerned, namely me. I mean this is a web-board - I am hardly going to give you an indepth account of what happens in my sex life.

Why not? Everyone else does.

[mercutio]

[quote="shoutcast879"]Concepts to establish in your head before heading out to meet (Japanese) girls
1. Learn to speak Japanese]

This is actually about the best analysis of the situation ive seen in print. really quite accurate. Instead of the usual "YD" ("Young Dude" from the website of the same name) perspective and the myth that many Japanese think is true that all you have to do is show up, be white... and hot women will throw themselves at you. Okay... true... there are plenty of dorks that do come to japan and get a couple of extra coolness points for being exotic. This allows them to actually get a date for a change so this is likely where the stories came from but I have never seen any of them with a really pretty girl.

Its not hard to find a date when you have low standards.

and just to make sure let me clear this up *I am not saying anything bad about japanese girls* (someone overheard a conversation like that at a bar and accused me of hating japanese women) What I am saying is that the best-looking and smartest japanese girls are still looing for the best looking and smartest guys...they dont give a damn if youre white...youve got to comete just like everyone else. Its usually the girl who are not the most highly sought who are the "gaijin-chasers"

actually.... come to think of it... I have never seen *any* of the super-hot Japanese girls with a white guy. I think that is just a mater of language and statistical averages. There are very few guys who speak japanese well enough to allow them to compete at that level and of that number i doubt there are very many that are good looking and rich enough to stay at that level of competition.

[Neo-Rio]

Let's see... it took me more than a few months to get a girlfriend. Crappy Japanese and lack of blonde hair or blue eyes didn't help. Once I got the language down pat, then things took off and I haven't looked back .

Also I find it cute the way GG flaps on sometimes. In the "quest for men", I bet she plays it straight down the line.
Bad strategy in my opinion though.... I should know cause last time I played hardball with women I got nowhere.
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[AssKissinger]

[Taro Toporific]

actually.... come to think of it... I have never seen *any* of the super-hot Japanese girls with a white guy.... i doubt there are very many that are good looking and rich enough to stay at that level of competition.

Except the FG forum's very own, Charisma Man!
Photo by wingman Taro

[kamome]

actually.... come to think of it... I have never seen *any* of the super-hot Japanese girls with a white guy. I think that is just a mater of language and statistical averages. There are very few guys who speak japanese well enough to allow them to compete at that level and of that number i doubt there are very many that are good looking and rich enough to stay at that level of competition.

Obviously, Mercutio, you've never met yours truly.

Seriously, though, I've found that playing the dumb gaijin game can work in some cases (it has for friends of mine). I hate doing that because I don't feel comfortable exploiting gaijin stereotypes to get 'tang. Also, the Japanese clubs have far better talent than the gaijin clubs, but they're much harder to pick up--not because of language issues, but because those girls are either not interested in getting picked up in a club by anyone or because they prefer Japanese men.

[mercutio]

actually.... come to think of it... I have never seen *any* of the super-hot Japanese girls with a white guy.... i doubt there are very many that are good looking and rich enough to stay at that level of competition.

Except the FG forum's very own, Charisma Man![/size]
Photo by wingman Taro

Hehe thanks Taro... but that is kinda what im talking about... the girl in that pic is really just cute... cute, but merely... but not super-hot. When I say super-hot Im talking about popstar or idol quality(Ayumi Hamasaki, BoA etc) they can sometimes be seen in the vicinity of 109 in shibuya....not many but they are there, mixed in with the hoards of the cute, hot, so-so, bad and the hideous.

By the way... when are we going to get together for some more drinks and talking to hot/cute girls?

Obviously, Mercutio, you've never met yours truly.

Seriously, though, I've found that playing the dumb gaijin game can work in some cases (it has for friends of mine). I hate doing that because I don't feel comfortable exploiting gaijin stereotypes to get 'tang. Also, the Japanese clubs have far better talent than the gaijin clubs, but they're much harder to pick up--not because of language issues, but because those girls are either not interested in getting picked up in a club by anyone or because they prefer Japanese men.

point taken... I havent met you yet and like I said ...Im sure it happens, it is just a statistically very rare.

And damn!!!! I agree with you about Japanese clubs being a hard-sell...and there again it is because (like girls all over the world) not all of them are interested in being picked up and those who are hoping to picked want to be picked up by a Japanese guy or they would have gone to a gaijin club.... or something in between, like velfarre. Even if youre on equal footing in all other areas, language is an issue... its hard for even a native speaker to be understood in a loud club... and still say something charming

[AssKissinger]

Ayumi Hamasaki

That's a prime example of the ugly rich bitch look. That girl in the pic is far more beautiful.

[Taro Toporific]

Take Gomi for example, which FG did she have the biggest clitoral hard-on for? Goofy-assed Shibuya Me, that's who!

Says who?

Sheesh - again people making assumptions without asking the person concerned, namely me. I mean this is a web-board - I am hardly going to give you an indepth account of what happens in my sex life.

LOOK OUT GUYS! I just was writing some rubber checks for Maybe-the-Largest-in-Japan Inc and noticed that Feb 29th is the last day of the month.

That's right: it's Leap Year! GG will not be denied.

[GomiGirl]

it's Leap Year! GG will not be denied.

What is supposed to happen in a leap year?

[Taro Toporific]

it's Leap Year! GG will not be denied.

What is supposed to happen in a leap year?

It's the ladies day to leap on us!:love2:

[Kanchou]

Heh heh... I don't think I can resist posting in this thread. An interesting thread indeed...

Theoretical question, AK.

http://www.delabit.com/nekobaba/src/nkbb20040220150243.jpg

Ok, suppose this girl has the personality of an angel, is of middle-class stock, has the mind of a scholar, real talent, and is knowledgable about the rest of the world... while her only "flaw" to speak of is the model-esque "overproduction" and artificially-enhanced beauty.

Would you consider her to be in the "ugly rich biches" category?

Just a little bit of intellectual curiosity... lol

(NEKO BABA DAISUKI! )

[kamome]

http://www.delabit.com/nekobaba/src/nkbb20040220150243.jpg

Yeah, I think AK is going overboard as well. There are "rich bitches" and then there are equally gorgeous girls who don't have the bad attitudes.

Mercutio, of all the hard-sell Japanese clubs I know (and that's a pretty limited number, but anyway...) the most difficult pick-up joint is Fura in Shibuya. Pity, because the talent is world-class.

[NeoNecroNomiCron]

http://www.delabit.com/nekobaba/src/nkbb20040220150243.jpg

Yeah, I think AK is going overboard as well. There are "rich bitches" and then there are equally gorgeous girls who don't have the bad attitudes.

Mercutio, of all the hard-sell Japanese clubs I know (and that's a pretty limited number, but anyway...) the most difficult pick-up joint is Fura in Shibuya. Pity, because the talent is world-class.

Fura , do you know how japanese pronounce Fu more like U, so it would be ura. There is a kind of porn in japan called Ura Bon. It mean under picture or something. Pretty hard core with no mosaic.

anyway just pointing it out.

Back to work.