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So is J-land really a place where an ugly guy can score?

Groovin' in the Gaijin Gulag
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Postby tailchaser » Wed Mar 03, 2004 1:31 am

Imagine the roles are reversed.... you are a young woman standing around minding your own business and somebody is demanding your attention and then screams in your ear when you don't pay enough attention - to a complete stranger I might add


Even in your first response I thought that you understood that I was joking/exaggerating. I can see that you lot are not exactly the most serious crowd, so it surprises me that you can't recognize a half-joke when you see one. If you believe that anyone would really yell in a girl's ear (outside of a club that is) and expect to get her attention that way you seriously have rocks for brains. IT WAS A JOKE. Or, more to the point, it was a way of saying that, compared to girls from other countries, J-girls do not seem to look at strangers very much.

And since you folks seem to demand complete seriousness, I will also say that in fact, getting their attention was the easy part. Although they never looked at me, even and especially if I was looking (not staring per se) at them. A simple "sumimasen" would stop even the most hurried looking young lass right in her tracks. She would stop and wait (sometimes impatiently) for me to say whatever oh so important thing I needed to say.

Anyway, this is not about the best way or worst way to pickup girls, and even if it were I would never ask a female for such advice. They are always beyond clueless about such matters even when they think they are experts.

So I assume that since you folks are chatting away so happily about other matters that either none of you have a clue as to the answer (very likely) or that none of you particularly care. I'm not surprised that you don't have the answer to the primary question, since that is a tough one. But I am a bit surprised that no one cares to chime in on the all-look-same or height issue.
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Postby mr. sparkle » Wed Mar 03, 2004 4:14 am

"Well yeah, that rap you read to me about Rob Pongi was funny, ne."


that was HIGH-lariious ladies and gents. :lol:

maybe dre should get ahold of pongi to be his latest protege!

I am a bit surprised that no one cares to chime in on the all-look-same or height issue.


as far as same/not same: i don't think so. i would think that, just like in america - if you are ignorant, then you think all minorities look the same. if you have half a brain, you can discern differences between levels of attractiveness.

hmmm--ok, i have an example. when i first met this japanese woman, like 10 years ago, i was skinnier. now that i've gained weight (outta control thyroid + beer = phat sparkle) and she always makes some sort of cutting remark, "sparkle-san, why don't you eat japanese food and not drink too much biru? you get skinny again!" So, here she is able to compare the lithe, better looking sparkle-san with the now older, chubbier version. - as hard as it is to hear. :lol:

from what the pongi tells me, it takes several meetings, chocolates, presents and flowers to get any further with your dream j-girl - and self-confidence gets you pretty far too - hmmm....just like in america. :roll:

since i'm only a tourist and not a young adonnis, it ain't that easy to hook it up. any tourist that thinks j-girls will go with anyone has a reality check comin' - or they be stuck with a roppongi massaji gyaru from shanghai.

so you want to be the rice king, eh? :lol:

well, i'm not the ladies man, but i would think that the most important thing is that if you can speak japanese, and be charming within the language - you can have your pick of some lovely women. most japanese gals simply don't understand english at all, so the harder you work with the language of love - the more opportunities yer gonna have.

so, don't worry about the height thing, a lot of gals in japan are perfect for you and won't care so much anyway - and the ones that do...ain't worth worryin' about anyway, so don't trip out on that.

be social - and be friendly, (as hard as it is to do when you're fucked). realize that you've got to make the first move or nothing will happen to you. "sumimasen, is there a good cafe around here?" is just fine to break the ice. i'd say, put yourself out there in public daily (don't hide in yer apaato), make j-friends, have j-friends hook you up with their girlfriend's friends, play the numbers game and just GO for it. you're only young once.

no self-respectin' j-girl likes a disheveled gaijin: so, i think it is very important that you take care of yourself: dress well, groom yourself neatly (get a good haircut), be polite, stay fit and you'll be in fat city with those fashion concious babes in no time, i am sure.

oh - and put a little spit shine on them shoes boy - women all over the world appreciate a man that has nice kicks. go italian all the way. rob pongi actually has 25 pairs of prada shoes, believe it or not!

i hope you have many happy and satisfying dates while you're in japan-land. don't put up with any bullshit, be yourself and have a good time. before long, i'm quite sure you'll have plenty of gals to date.

if all else fails, do what mr. sparkle does--head to the LOS ("land of smiles") and hang out with rob's younger brother: PAT PONGI :lol:

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Postby Caustic Saint » Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:59 am

tailchaser wrote:I thought that you understood that I was joking/exaggerating. I can see that you lot are not exactly the most serious crowd, so it surprises me that you can't recognize a half-joke when you see one. If you believe that anyone would really yell in a girl's ear (outside of a club that is) and expect to get her attention that way you seriously have rocks for brains. IT WAS A JOKE. Or, more to the point, it was a way of saying that, compared to girls from other countries, J-girls do not seem to look at strangers very much.

The problem is that although you meant it as a joke, it's been asked in complete seriousness here many times before. "How can I score a hot J-chick" is one of the most common newbie questions here. It's gotten old, so nobody cares about giving a serious answer. Maybe they did at one point (unlikely), but not anymore. Best to go try the YD forums or search the archives here.

And since you folks seem to demand complete seriousness...

:rofl: Read a bit more of what's been posted in the past here before making such silly comments.
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Postby Molokidan » Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:44 am

tailchaser, I think it's the fact that you're coming off a little too desperate.

I've found that women, no matter WHAT nationality they are, can smell desperation a mile away.
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Postby tailchaser » Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:17 am

I'm not sure where this desperate stuff came from. I don't recall posting that I had a problem with picking up girls. I just want to know if there is any advantage there so that I can decide whether dedicating the next 3-5 (or more) years of my life studying Nihongo makes any sense. If I can't get a girl who's any cuter than I can snag here (in the U.S.) than what's the point?

My (very suspect) theory is as follows. There is a cross-racial differentiation problem. People of one race have greater difficulty in discriminating between individuals of another race. I absolutely believe there is some truth to the "all-look-same" idea. It's a perceptual thing. So, like I said before, this could be an advantage if you happen to be less attractive than the competition.

This would in theory combine with the exotic aspect of being from a totally different culture, as well as any gaijin-lust which may or may not exist in reality. I suspect that, just like in my country, there are going to be some people who "have a thing" for a particular race. It seems well accepted that black guys are well liked by the J-girls for instance. Maybe there was a "date a gaijin" fad in Japan for a while that caused these rumours of Japan being a place where you can "level up" in terms of what you can get at home. I dunno. Which is the point of my question.

I never mind getting (male) advice on techniques, but this really is not the place where I would ask. There are better places for that. Unless there are some unique qualities of J-girls that I should be aware of...

BTW, I get the feeling that this place is like some kind of members-only chat room, and that I've barged in quite uninvited. I had read through every single available thread and post on this forum before posting (yes it took quite awhile), and I can confidently say that my question (which is not how can I score a J-girl) has not been answered before. Not here and not in the young dude archives either. That is especially true for the all-look-same aspect which I have never seen discussed anywhere.
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Postby Caustic Saint » Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:28 am

tailchaser wrote:I just want to know if there is any advantage there so that I can decide whether dedicating the next 3-5 (or more) years of my life studying Nihongo makes any sense. If I can't get a girl who's any cuter than I can snag here (in the U.S.) than what's the point?

:roll:

If the quality of the poon you can get is the deciding factor in which language you choose to study, perhaps you're better off just sticking with English and not taking up space in a class where people who geniunely want to learn are going to be studying.
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Postby tailchaser » Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:40 am

But then how would I improve the quality of my 'tang? How do you know that the majority of the male members of the class are not Yellow Fever victims themselves? Seems like a better reason than being able to read manga or watch anime/j-movies/j-tv. Actually, getting real okonomiyaki is probably the best reason for learning Nihongo.
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Postby GomiGirl » Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:42 am

tailchaser wrote:I get the feeling that this place is like some kind of members-only chat room, and that I've barged in quite uninvited. I had read through every single available thread and post on this forum before posting (yes it took quite awhile), and I can confidently say that my question (which is not how can I score a J-girl) has not been answered before. Not here and not in the young dude archives either. That is especially true for the all-look-same aspect which I have never seen discussed anywhere.


No this is not a members only thing - but if you read the board then you would have worked out that when tired old questions like - "Can an ugly guy score?", and "all look the same" they get flamed - because no matter what you say, it is all kinda ignorant and hardly original. If in doubt search on posts from jack - a tired old poon-hound who can only talk about how many J-chicks he has banged.

Most of the regular posters, live in Japan or have lived in Japan or want to live in Japan and are not the fly-by-nighter sorts. Don't let that stop you posting.. we aer a friendly bunch.

Perhaps it was your tone.. I dunno. but if you are talking about things that are jokes.. look to the left of your screen - there are little smilies that can show your level of seriousness.

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Postby kamome » Wed Mar 03, 2004 11:08 am

Caustic Saint wrote:
tailchaser wrote:I just want to know if there is any advantage there so that I can decide whether dedicating the next 3-5 (or more) years of my life studying Nihongo makes any sense. If I can't get a girl who's any cuter than I can snag here (in the U.S.) than what's the point?

:roll:

If the quality of the poon you can get is the deciding factor in which language you choose to study, perhaps you're better off just sticking with English and not taking up space in a class where people who geniunely want to learn are going to be studying.


Well said, Caustic.

I have spent over 10 years of my life dedicated to learning Japanese as a personal and intellectual challenge, which resulted in enhanced career opportunities. When I hear some jackass saying he wants to devote several years to studying Japanese just so he can snag some 'poon, I consider it both a personal insult and an insult to the people who are native speakers of that language. What a loser.
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Postby AssKissinger » Wed Mar 03, 2004 11:28 am

When I hear some jackass saying he wants to devote several years to studying Japanese just so he can snag some 'poon, I consider it both a personal insult and an insult to the people who are native speakers of that language. What a loser.


OK I gotta jump in. That's over the top Kamone. Yall know this: Pussy powers the world. Why do men want a good job? Why do men want money? Why do men buy nice cars? Nice suits? This is what we need:

1) air 2) water 3) food 4) pussy 5) shelter

So he wants to study JPN to help him meet a woman? That's the same reason all of yall do whatever the fuck you do. Until you find your woman it's all about finding your woman. It's biological, it's DNA and all that so quit dissing this guy. He's talking some truth.

TC, dude for me the most beautiful white chick only measures up to about the slightly below average J-chick. So for me it was way easy to level up the honey, at least in my mind, when I moved here. But can an ugly get some sweet honey here? YES. Of course the better looking you are the better but with the right style over here you can land some sweet honey no matter what you look like. And, it is easier than other countries. The girls are the best. I do think the gaijin boyfriends are kind of out of style right now. It was hipper awhile back but it comes in waves. But always there's a steady supply of beautiful hot little bodied J-chicks curious with jungle fever. Don't let the bastartds get you down. You're alright.
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Postby Alcazar » Wed Mar 03, 2004 11:42 am

GomiGirl wrote: No this is not a members only thing - but if you read.....

GG, I spilt cointreau on my FG blazer-is it hand-washable or should I take to the dry-cleaners? :spin:
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Postby GomiGirl » Wed Mar 03, 2004 11:59 am

Alcazar wrote:
GomiGirl wrote: No this is not a members only thing - but if you read.....

GG, I spilt cointreau on my FG blazer-is it hand-washable or should I take to the dry-cleaners? :spin:


Yah yah yah... just throw it away and buy a new FG T-shirt!!!

Buy our crap

This is a club that you can buy your way into.. I am sure that you are familar with these.. :wink: (just razzing ya Alcazar) :wink:

Or better yet - see that little "donate" link at the top??? We want Ultra to be able to come back and drink with us again..
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Postby Alcazar » Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:09 pm

GomiGirl wrote: Or better yet - see that little "donate" link at the top??? We want Ultra to be able to come back and drink with us again..
Speaking of, how much does it cost to run this website? How much money do people have to donate to get a Premium FG membership?
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Postby hanasims » Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:43 pm

AssKissinger wrote:
When I hear some jackass saying he wants to devote several years to studying Japanese just so he can snag some 'poon, I consider it both a personal insult and an insult to the people who are native speakers of that language. What a loser.


OK I gotta jump in. That's over the top Kamone. Yall know this: Pussy powers the world. Why do men want a good job? Why do men want money? Why do men buy nice cars? Nice suits? This is what we need:

1) air 2) water 3) food 4) pussy 5) shelter

So he wants to study JPN to help him meet a woman? That's the same reason all of yall do whatever the fuck you do. Until you find your woman it's all about finding your woman. It's biological, it's DNA and all that so quit dissing this guy. He's talking some truth.

TC, dude for me the most beautiful white chick only measures up to about the slightly below average J-chick. So for me it was way easy to level up the honey, at least in my mind, when I moved here. But can an ugly get some sweet honey here? YES. Of course the better looking you are the better but with the right style over here you can land some sweet honey no matter what you look like. And, it is easier than other countries. The girls are the best. I do think the gaijin boyfriends are kind of out of style right now. It was hipper awhile back but it comes in waves. But always there's a steady supply of beautiful hot little bodied J-chicks curious with jungle fever. Don't let the bastartds get you down. You're alright.


I agree, if it wasn't for poontang, I think all men would be lazy as hell. Testosterone gets things done.
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Postby ibiza » Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:52 pm

AssKissinger wrote:
...Pussy powers the world. Why do men want a good job? Why do men want money? Why do men buy nice cars? Nice suits?...

...It's biological, it's DNA and all that so quit dissing this guy. He's talking some truth...


I couldn't agree with you more. I think sex is what drives most men to do what they do, subconsciously or not. I continue to study Japanese for many different reasons, but being able to coverse(and date) with more j-women is definitely one of them.
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Postby tailchaser » Wed Mar 03, 2004 2:19 pm

If this post makes no sense please let me know because I am on a psychoactive (hallucinagenic) substance atm. Normally I don't post in this state, but this place seems like it would be perfect.

but if you read the board then you would have worked out that when tired old questions like - "Can an ugly guy score?", and "all look the same" they get flamed - because no matter what you say, it is all kinda ignorant and hardly original.


Are you sure it's not just because I'm a newbie here? I wonder what would happen if a well-liked regular posted such a question.

Anyway, I agree that its ignorant. I wish I knew the answer, but until I do I will remain ignorant of THE TRUTH. I happen to think that both questions are valid, and I did my best (measured in hours) to find the answers before I asked. I do not believe that there is any further information that I can obtain on this topic from this website.

I did just find the real Young Dude forums that have been mentioned here. I thought I had found them before but that must have been something else. So I will search there for The One True Answer. If I am able to find it there then you will all have my abject apology not just for my redundant post, but for my very existence.
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Postby Caustic Saint » Wed Mar 03, 2004 2:24 pm

tailchaser wrote:
but if you read the board then you would have worked out that when tired old questions like - "Can an ugly guy score?", and "all look the same" they get flamed - because no matter what you say, it is all kinda ignorant and hardly original.

Are you sure it's not just because I'm a newbie here? I wonder what would happen if a well-liked regular posted such a question.

The regulars have seen the question posted time and time again, and wouldn't post it themselves. They know better.

If anything, they'd get beat on even harder if they did post such a thing, because they should know better.
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Postby kamome » Wed Mar 03, 2004 3:34 pm

AssKissinger wrote:
When I hear some jackass saying he wants to devote several years to studying Japanese just so he can snag some 'poon, I consider it both a personal insult and an insult to the people who are native speakers of that language. What a loser.


OK I gotta jump in. That's over the top Kamone. Yall know this: Pussy powers the world. Why do men want a good job? Why do men want money? Why do men buy nice cars? Nice suits? This is what we need:

1) air 2) water 3) food 4) pussy 5) shelter

So he wants to study JPN to help him meet a woman? That's the same reason all of yall do whatever the fuck you do.


You're right that 'poon is the ultimate male motivator. I admit that it is one thing (among others) that motivates me to succeed.

I just can't fathom studying Japanese purely for the purpose of wick-dipping. And for people who actually respect Japanese culture, the idea of J-language study purely for this purpose is kind of offensive.
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Postby yellowlightman » Fri Mar 05, 2004 5:06 pm

kamome wrote:I just can't fathom studying Japanese purely for the purpose of wick-dipping. And for people who actually respect Japanese culture, the idea of J-language study purely for this purpose is kind of offensive.


Just because thats why he started studying Japanese doesn't mean thats why he'll continue to. I started studying Japanese seven years ago so I could read manga, and even after my interest in that has faded... I'm still working at learning Japanese.

Although I suppose it's doubtful he'll stop wanting to get his "wick-dip" on, doesn't mean he won't decide to keep studying for more... legitimate reasons.
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Postby Kurofune » Sun Mar 07, 2004 2:04 pm

kamome wrote:I have spent over 10 years of my life dedicated to learning Japanese as a personal and intellectual challenge, which resulted in enhanced career opportunities.

That's as good a reason as any to study a language, but it's not the only good reason. As most of the replies to your post say, sex is a major motivator. Most male FG will tell you that it's the female scenery that keeps them here. How many of us guys would stay here if the scenery was typified by blotchy, overweight women?

When I hear some jackass saying he wants to devote several years to studying Japanese just so he can snag some 'poon, I consider it both a personal insult and an insult to the people who are native speakers of that language.

What drives the eikaiwa industry? Anybody remember the ad with the stereotypical tall, blond English teacher handcuffed to the marriage-aged J-woman? It isn't my scene, but there are many consenting adults who have no problems with the arrangement.
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Postby Papa-Lazarou » Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:06 pm

hmmmmm

Japanese chicks are indeed very easy because

1) Japanese guys treat them like shite, paying for a meal and holding open doors for them makes them feel special.

2) They see their fathers treat their mothers liek a personal slave, try not to remind her of her father

3) They never embraced Christainity/Islam/Judaism, so dont have hang ups about sex. Use that to your advantage

4) Japanese guys (mostly) act like children and are more interested in tenticle rape manga than having a romatic evening with a woman.

However in my opinion, if your an ugly gaijin with the social skills of a rhesus monkey, you still wont be able to score.

If your a looser gaijin, your a looser gaijin

On my last trip i scored 8 times in 6 days, but then again i am charming and good looking. So there.
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Postby AssKissinger » Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:13 pm

If your a looser gaijin, your a looser gaijin


Being loose always helps!
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Postby Papa-Lazarou » Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:19 pm

AssKissinger wrote:
If your a looser gaijin, your a looser gaijin


Being loose always helps!


It sure does!

It also helps if you learn to spell, and failing that: use a word processor, and failing that: slit your wrists and play with the blood for half an hour
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Postby SovietSupreme » Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:26 pm

Women love a good communist. Perhaps if you were to have a nice mini Soviet flag on your shirt women would be all over you.

Sometimes a lie works. Tell them you are friends with the great SovietSpreme and they will go home with you that night. Use this to start a nice communist family and you will be ready when Japan joins the Soviet Union.
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Postby American Oyaji » Fri Jun 17, 2005 5:48 am

Instead of shaking my hand, I let them...(ahem).
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Fri Jun 17, 2005 7:33 am

An ugly guy can score anywhere if he has confidence. That's the reason a lot of guys seem to do better in Japan than they did back home. They come believing that Japanese girls worship (insert nationality or race here) men and so have more confidence in dealing with girls than before. It also has something to do with the "vacation" mentality. The reason people seem to hook up easier when they are on vacation is they lose their inhibitions and fear when they are away from home. I think the same thing happens when guys land in Japan too.
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Postby Buraku » Sat Aug 06, 2005 9:12 am

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tailchaser wrote:I thought that you understood that I was joking/exaggerating. I can see that you lot are not exactly the most serious crowd, so it surprises me that you can't recognize a half-joke when you see one. If you believe that anyone would really yell in a girl's ear (outside of a club that is) and expect to get her attention that way you seriously have rocks for brains. IT WAS A JOKE. Or, more to the point, it was a way of saying that, compared to girls from other countries, J-girls do not seem to look at strangers very much.

The problem is that although you meant it as a joke, it's been asked in complete seriousness here many times before. "How can I score a hot J-chick" is one of the most common newbie questions here. It's gotten old, so nobody cares about giving a serious answer. Maybe they did at one point (unlikely), but not anymore. Best to go try the YD forums or search the archives here.

And since you folks seem to demand complete seriousness...

:rofl: Read a bit more of what's been posted in the past here before making such silly comments.


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Postby dingosatemybaby » Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:52 am

Okay, I'll admit it, Japanese girls are quite possibly the cutest in the world, if you can get past the generally short legs and occaisional appalling teeth. Because of the conservative, sexist nature of Japanese society, they tend to be a bit boring (or they rely more on unspoken communication). In any case, it's perfectly legit to like being surrounded by J-chix as one goes about one's business, even if one is married. It's like moving to Seattle for the water or to Phoenix for the sun.

My banal 2 yen (I'd say "3 yen," but that expression might be trademarked :wink: )

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Postby Taro Toporific » Sat Aug 06, 2005 5:35 pm

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