[cstaylor]

Nothing worse than an uppity gaijin... especially a Japanese one...

[GomiGirl]

So UG - you are dammed if you do and dammed if you don't!!

Out of curiousity, for people who try their luck on street corners - of a non-commercial nature - what is the desired outcome? A date, a smile, a shag or hasn't it been thought out past "Hello"?

However, walking around Tokyo, one becomes very suspicious of men approaching at traffic lights - just wait at Roppongi Crossing to see how aggressive these guys are!! Sure most of them are trying to scout for hostess/strippers but I have seen some very persistant guys who cross the line between a polite hello and something more sinister...

GomiGirl

[kamome]

There's no secret there. The desired outcome is getting a quick and easy bang out of it. That's what guys are hoping for when they nanpa. Whether it works out the way they had hoped is entirely up to the girls they meet on the street corner. A Japanese friend of mine had success doing exactly that when he nanpa'ed a girl in Shibuya.

[kamome]

Hey, was that blog from the same hanabi who posts in here?

[GomiGirl]

Change your avatar back! That mechanical eye is freaking me out.

Is that better? Another eye but this one is actually mine. When the site went down the last back-up must have been before I changed it originally..

I don't have much (any) experience in street corner nanpa, but I probably wouldn't mind if a liberated woman accosted me on the street.

I am pretty liberated, but probably not something that women would do, unless this was for a commercial transaction.

Sorry to get serious for a minute - I know this is unusual - but put yourself in the position of the target... walking along minding your own business and probably on your way to somewhere.. coz some chicks actually have a life and all.. but to be "nanpa'ed" in the street it is a) an inconvenient and b) scary - personal safety wise.

However, if you get eye-contact and a smile - I say go for it.

But don't just tap some chick on the shoulder at the traffic lights - it is frightening. In other cities you would probably get slapped... doesn't mean that it is OK to do it here though..

GomiGirl

[cstaylor]

Sorry to get serious for a minute - I know this is unusual - but put yourself in the position of the target... walking along minding your own business and probably on your way to somewhere.. coz some chicks actually have a life and all.. but to be "nanpa'ed" in the street it is a) an inconvenient and b) scary - personal safety wise.

You could just follow them home instead... works for Kamome.

[GomiGirl]

Ok, point taken, but if Brad Pitt walks up to you on the street, are you gonna say no to a cup of coffee? On the other hand, when a sub-Pitt guy approaches with the same line, it's almost a criminal offense.

Nothing to do with the looks, it is about the approach.

If you have the hungry look of desperation in your eyes it is hard to distinguish between an innocent hello from a potentially nice guy and an axe-murderer. Plus the surprise factor is working against your efforts. Believe it or not, most people are just crossing the street to get to the other side and not constantly on the trawl.

Believe it or not, most girls are not after Brad Pitt, they are usualy just after a nice guy who can make them laugh.

Men are much more hung up on looks than women - this is a scientific fact!!! How many times have you seen a drop-dead gorgeous girl with a butt ugly man. I know the more cynical of you will think it is for money.. but he may just be a great guy or he could be a great shag... you never know!!

GomiGirl

[GomiGirl]

There's no secret there. The desired outcome is getting a quick and easy bang out of it.

What's your average rate of success?

Yeah, I'd like to know that too....

GomiGirl

[GomiGirl]

Believe it or not, most people are just crossing the street to get to the other side and not constantly on the trawl.

Present company excluded, of course.

Not constantly!!!
It is just a weekend thing..

GomiGirl

[hanabi]

Hey, was that blog from the same hanabi who posts in here?

Yes, that's mine. And bite me, cstaylor. I am neither uppity nor Japanese. (I'm a non-Japanese Asian American, and most foreign guys can't even tell the difference.)

Anyway, I just wanted to agree with what Gomigirl said. As a woman, I've learned to be guarded all the time, especially when walking alone on a city street. I didn't even get a good look at the guy, so attractiveness does not factor in this situation.

The reason I didn't even bother to turn around was that (on top of being guarded when walking alone), this kept happening to me before. And when I tried to be helpful or accommodating, I found that they weren't nice guys. Hell, they weren't even sort-of-decent guys. I've been asked all manner of inappropriate things that you probably shouldn't ask a complete stranger. I just wasn't up for being asked again. So why did I ignore him? Let's just say it was an attempt to learn from past experience. I'm sorry if that offends anyone.

[kamome]

There's no secret there. The desired outcome is getting a quick and easy bang out of it.

What's your average rate of success?

Yeah, I'd like to know that too....

GomiGirl

I'm 0 fer' 1 when it comes to street-side nanpa. Now, if you're talking about club nanpa, well, I'll leave that to your imagination......

[kamome]

Hey, was that blog from the same hanabi who posts in here?

Yes, that's mine. And bite me, cstaylor. I am neither uppity nor Japanese.

Cool, when were you at UCLA?

Also, although it can sometimes be fun to take jabs at CS, I don't think he was implying that Hanabi was an uppity Japanese. Or am I completely offbase here?

[hanabi]

Not at all. Gaijin guys are F*ckers and sometimes it's good to see how badly we come off.

Yeah, but at the same time, I don't want to hold all gaijin guys accountable for the few who stupidly ask me, "You love me long time?" So I try to react appropriately to the situation. It allows for less errors, but errors nonetheless.

Cool, when were you at UCLA?

Also, although it can sometimes be fun to take jabs at CS, I don't think he was implying that Hanabi was an uppity Japanese. Or am I completely offbase here?

I went 9/91-9/96 with a year off in between to work...okay, a year off to slack. Who am I kidding?

I'm not really angry at cs (as if it matters). But it's all worth it just to get a cool "eat my ass" graphic out of it.

[befamfivh]

I don't want to hold all gaijin guys accountable for the few who stupidly ask me, "You love me long time?"

You've given me strange urges to stupidly ask women to "you love me long time"... I must now ponder the implications.

[kamome]

Yeah, but at the same time, I don't want to hold all gaijin guys accountable for the few who stupidly ask me, "You love me long time?"

Don't worry, the guilty ones know who they are. And so do the rest of us.

No, no, of course I would NEVER say something as stupid as that. There are some jackholes in the US who say things like that whenever they see an Asian girl, and I just have to give them a few s and a smack upside the head.

[Ketou]

A further link from the previous "undercover gaijin".
Quite well written and interesting.
At least i thought so

True Porn Clerk Stories

[mitch]

Yeah, but at the same time, I don't want to hold all gaijin guys accountable for the few who stupidly ask me, "You love me long time?" So I try to react appropriately to the situation. It allows for less errors, but errors nonetheless.

Guys (if that label is appropriate) actually have said that to you?

Wow, some guys are just plain assholes/jerks. I have seen more asian people in the past few years than ever in my life. But there is no chance I would ever say anything so derogative.

Out of curiosity, what would be a good way to hit on women on a street?

Would a accidental bump be too obvious?

I have never tried, nor do I want to, it just doesn't seem like a good way to hit on women. But whatever floats your boat.

And btw hanabi, your site is cool, I like the links, very interesting.

[cstaylor]

Yes, that's mine. And bite me, cstaylor. I am neither uppity nor Japanese. (I'm a non-Japanese Asian American, and most foreign guys can't even tell the difference.)

I missed this the first time until Ultra reposted his graphic. Yeah, you're uppity alright... how else do you describe someone who tells someone else to "bite them"?

It's unfortunate that you're American... but I guess it's hard to miss when you've got a blog dedicated to yourself... you've got the word "I" listed at least 50 times on your page.

Nice layout though.

[cstaylor]

I'm not really angry at cs (as if it matters). But it's all worth it just to get a cool "eat my ass" graphic out of it.

damn uppity American!

[cstaylor]

And bite me, cstaylor.

I'd love to see that!

Keep waiting punkass, I don't eat junk food.

[befamfivh]

Score: 2-1 CSTaylor

[cstaylor]

Oh jeez... well, make it tasteful please.

....and see if you can fit "Nanpa-Man" Kamome in there somewhere too.

[hanabi]

It's unfortunate that you're American... but I guess it's hard to miss when you've got a blog dedicated to yourself... you've got the word "I" listed at least 50 times on your page.

Well, it is a journal. I started it for my friends and family back home so that I wouldn't have to retell the same anecdotes over and over. I didn't expect others to read it, much less link to it on a forum. (I've even taken steps to remove it from Google if that's any testament to my wanting to keep a low-profile.) If you don't like it, just remember that it wasn't meant for you.

(Yes, I've resisted taken swipes back at cs. Why do you ask? I'll just assume he's being "funny" and let it pass.)

Mitch, I don't know what would be the appropriate way to hit on a woman on the street. I guess rules are different among the locals because, let's face it, violence against strangers isn't as common here as it is back home. But, out of habit, I'm going to react the way I always have. I'd ignore them. (If that's really "uppity" of me, blame the muggers, attackers and rapists.)

[cstaylor]

Well, it is a journal. I started it for my friends and family back home so that I wouldn't have to retell the same anecdotes over and over. I didn't expect others to read it, much less link to it on a forum. (I've even taken steps to remove it from Google if that's any testament to my wanting to keep a low-profile.) If you don't like it, just remember that it wasn't meant for you.

I was just supporting my argument that you're uppity, that's all.

(Yes, I've resisted taken swipes back at cs. Why do you ask? I'll just assume he's being "funny" and let it pass.)

No you aren't, Ms. Passive-Agressive. I wasn't the one telling someone to "bite me".

(If that's really "uppity" of me, blame the muggers, attackers and rapists.)

No, I was referring to your overuse of the first-person pronoun in your blog. I remember somebody telling me once that anyone who wants your attention is doing it for their own benefit, so ignoring persistent strangers is a very smart move.

[hanabi]

Oh, Jesus McChrist.

No, I was referring to your overuse of the first-person pronoun in your blog.

Well, one of my entries did address the uses of "I" and "me." Not sure if you included that while doing your count. And like I said, it's a journal with opinions that come from guess who? Me. So big f*cking surprise that I'm using personal pronouns. If you want to fault me for it, why don't you try stopping for a while and see how well you do with communicating?

...ignoring persistent strangers is a very smart move.

Yeah, good point. I'm done with you.

[cstaylor]

Now I see how you got your avatar name... hot-headed, explosive arguments without much standing power.

And I said overuse not use, but you use typical strawman argument tactics... compliments of the American public school system that fails to teach these basics.

[cstaylor]

I aim to please the audience, unlike that kiss-ass seagull.

[kamome]

I aim to please the audience, unlike that kiss-ass seagull.

CS, I was very content to stay out of this one, so why drag me in with that kind of a lame comment? Do you want another drubbing like the one you got in the "story" and "Pledge of Allegiance" discussions? My can o' whip-ass is at the ready.

[cstaylor]

I seem to remember you taking the short-end of the stick when discussing capital punishment.

Plus you can never have enough people in an argument.

[befamfivh]

And I said overuse not use, but you use typical strawman argument tactics... compliments of the American public school system that fails to teach these basics. :roll:

At the risk of sticking my foot in my mouth, could you point out the strawman argument? I don't see one there...


Also, while I think you should feel free to fault someone for having a journal -- it's narcissistic for sure --, maybe you shouldn't fault someone for using personal prounouns in a journal. Hanabi's right... personal prounouns do kind of belong in personal accounts of events that occur around one's person.