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Postby gkanai » Sun Mar 28, 2004 10:57 pm

I was out on Saturday night with a guy from Goldman who was at the scene of the accident/death and actually ran to get help when the security on scene was flailing around.

From the description he gave me, it sounds like the kid might have survived if his mother didnt yank him out of the door.

The whole thing is so sad.
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Postby altar » Sun Mar 28, 2004 11:02 pm

Would be a good idea if the doors turned in reverse when you touched the door behind you...
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Postby Unspoken » Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:46 am

GuyJean wrote:The family should rape Mori for all they're worth.

I often find myself feeling disgusted by the asinine lawsuits that are so frequently filed on this side of the pond, but this definitely wouldn't be one of them.

Rape Mori for all they're worth? I couldn't have said it better myself.

According to Japan Today, these doors have already been involved in 32 other accidents, 10 of which resulted in an ambulance ride to the hospital.

I'm sorry, but can't anyone take a fucking hint?

This sort of negligence is absolutely inexcusable.
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Postby emperor » Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:26 am

it said on the news that in November and December of last year 2 girls were trapped in the doorway - dont know if it was fatal though..
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Postby Taro Toporific » Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:28 am

GuyJean wrote: The family should rape Mori for all they're worth.


Camera recorded fatal door accident at Roppongi Hills.The Japan Times: March 29, 2004

....Mori Building President Minoru Mori went to the wake for the child in Suita, Osaka Prefecture, Sunday, but was denied entry at the reception.
He left the funeral hall after bowing once toward the altar.
The family also refused offers from Mori Building and the doors' manufacturer, Sanwa Tajima Corp., to deliver flowers to the ceremony.

...A security camera recorded the fatal accident in which a 6-year-old boy got his head caught in an automatic revolving door at the Roppongi Hills complex in Tokyo, police said Sunday.....
Earlier in the day, sources close to the case said a sensor in the door was apparently configured so that its blind spot was not the smallest size possible...
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Postby Caustic Saint » Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:39 am

From the same article:

Meanwhile, Mori Building President Minoru Mori went to the wake for the child in Suita, Osaka Prefecture, Sunday, but was denied entry at the reception.

He left the funeral hall after bowing once toward the altar.

The family also refused offers from Mori Building and the doors' manufacturer, Sanwa Tajima Corp., to deliver flowers to the ceremony.

What a swell bunch of guys... :roll:
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Postby AssKissinger » Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:43 am

They were probably there to slip the mother the clean-up bill.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:49 am

AssKissinger wrote:They were probably there to slip the mother the clean-up bill.


Hey, the City of Denver sent me the bill for cracking sidewalk when I made my 7-story swan-dive window washing. Got hat sucker framed. It was the "best" $275 I ever spent on the 18-inch reinforced concrete, hee, hee. :rofl:
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Re: Video soon showing on VideoLink, TokyoDV and RobPongi.co

Postby GuyJean » Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:56 am

Taro Toporific wrote:Mori Building President Minoru Mori went to the wake for the child in Suita, Osaka Prefecture, Sunday, but was denied entry at the reception.
He left the funeral hall after bowing once toward the altar.
The family also refused offers from Mori Building and the doors' manufacturer, Sanwa Tajima Corp., to deliver flowers to the ceremony.

Good!! Those jerk-offs have the audacity to show their faces at a funeral their ineptidute helped create?!
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Luckily, the family's from Osaka. Osakans are the only ones that seem to have any balls in this country.. Maybe this time bowing deeply and mustering up some tears for the cameras won't suffice!

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Postby kamome » Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:16 pm

Once the Japanese finally get the hint, they respond on a nationwide basis.

I happen to work in a lesser Mori-owned building that has the same sensor-driven door technology in the front entrance. Guess what I saw today when I came in to work? The front door barricaded, with five maintenance guys and about 10 suits hemming and hawing in front of the door, conducting tests on the sensors in the "sweet spot" (blind spot) to see whether the door would stop as it should.

You can just see Mori sitting at his desk and ordering the staff at all of the buildings he owns to check the doors. Why he didn't do this after the first injury is beyond me. Probably thought the first 30 incidents were abberations or something.

He and the manufacturer will probably be sued. Could be a huge product liability case that will, of course, take at least 10 years to conclude.
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Postby ramchop » Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:43 pm

Why is it that every small scale construction site has at least 2 geriatrics pointlessly waving people past (the other day one even spoke to me in English "Please, be careful"), but these mega-rich corporations can't even get a doorman? Are the cheap-labour geriatrics not beautiful enough for Ropongi Hills?
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Postby Mr X » Mon Mar 29, 2004 7:49 pm

What is "T I J" anyway? Sorry if that's a dumb question. :(
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Postby kamome » Mon Mar 29, 2004 8:01 pm

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Postby Taro Toporific » Tue Mar 30, 2004 10:45 am

kamome wrote:O
You can just see Mori sitting at his desk and ordering the staff at all of the buildings he owns to check the doors. Why he didn't do this after the first injury is beyond me. Probably thought the first 30 incidents were abberations or something..


The original Dr. Evil, Hiroo Mori, would be "sitting behind his desk" in his trademark, gray-black kimono.

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TBS TV news this morning (March 29), there have been 59 REPORTED cases of these powered doors attacking people.
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Postby NeoNecroNomiCron » Tue Mar 30, 2004 1:18 pm

kamome wrote:
ramchop wrote:Why is it that every small scale construction site has at least 2 geriatrics pointlessly waving people past (the other day one even spoke to me in English "Please, be careful"), but these mega-rich corporations can't even get a doorman? Are the cheap-labour geriatrics not beautiful enough for Ropongi Hills?


Sure, a doorman would be nice, but that would defeat the purpose of having an automatic door, wouldn't it?


Actualy the reason they have thoes revolving doors and thoes automatic doors is due to heating and architecture. Revolving doors only exchange the amount of warm air as each segment of the door. This cuts heating bills significantly. But if you open even a small door you get a huge heat exchange. This also serves to keep the pressure so the air conditionar does not have to work so hard.

Also keeping the pressure. In large glass hallways. some of the structural strenght is accounted for in the internal air pressure. If there was to great a difference the integraty could be broken. Especial with large changes of high and low pressure in tropical storms.

If you take a look at a revolving door it is easy to see the exchange of air is extreamly regulated and easily quantifiable. Even the seals on the doors are esentialy huge O rings.
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TBS Coverage on Monday Night

Postby dingosatemybaby » Tue Mar 30, 2004 1:23 pm

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Postby NeoNecroNomiCron » Tue Mar 30, 2004 1:58 pm

dingosatemybaby wrote: I still don't know whether to smell a rat in cases like this or whether I'm just being cynical, but it did seem like they giving Mori the kid-glove treatment.


Because there is significant investment in the mori building. Living with ghosts devalues property and share holders dont like to find a pair of shoes on the chou line. Evenybody see where this joke is going?
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Re: TBS Coverage on Monday Night

Postby Caustic Saint » Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:10 pm

NeoNecroNomiCron wrote:
dingosatemybaby wrote: I still don't know whether to smell a rat in cases like this or whether I'm just being cynical, but it did seem like they giving Mori the kid-glove treatment.

Because there is significant investment in the mori building. Living with ghosts devalues property and share holders dont like to find a pair of shoes on the chou line. Evenybody see where this joke is going?

Too bad people in Japan don't make those little "teddy bear shrines" where ever a child has dies. I'd imagine that wouldn't sit too well with the building management. (And it'd probably play even worse if they sent someone out to bag all that stuff up for the trash and it ended up on the news.)
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Re: TBS Coverage on Monday Night

Postby GuyJean » Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:11 pm

dingosatemybaby wrote:..but it did seem like they giving Mori the kid-glove treatment.

Mori owns Japan, and we all know the media's number one motto; "Politeness without critical analysis".

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Postby NeoNecroNomiCron » Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:17 pm

Caustic Saint wrote:Too bad people in Japan don't make those little "deleted bear shrines" where ever a child has dies. I'd imagine that wouldn't sit too well with the building management. (And it'd probably play even worse if they sent someone out to bag all that stuff up for the trash and it ended up on the news.)


Even worse it would block the main door! Shock!
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Re: TBS Coverage on Monday Night

Postby Taro Toporific » Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:38 pm

GuyJean wrote:
dingosatemybaby wrote:..but it did seem like they giving Mori the kid-glove treatment.

Mori owns Japan, and we all know the media's number one motto]
Well Mori was "raided" today. Maybe there's hope but naaaah it's Japan.

Tokyo police raid building, door company in revolving door death
Tuesday March 30, 12:10 PM
Investigators probing the death of a six-year-old boy crushed by a revolving door raided the headquarters Tuesday of a Tokyo shopping mall operator and the company that built the door, officials said.
Tokyo Metropolitan Police Department agents looking for evidence of professional negligence in last Friday's death poured into the offices of Mori Building Co. and door-maker Sanwa Shutter Corp. Officers left with boxes of documents..... Sanwa Shutter has acknowledged it knew the doors keep moving about 25 centimeters (10 inches) after safety sensors are activated.
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Postby GuyJean » Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:54 pm

Taro Toporific wrote:.. raided the headquarters Tuesday of a Tokyo shopping mall operator and the company that built the door..

'Raid', Japanese style:

"Hi, Mr. Mori-sama? We're planning to come by around 10am tomorrow morning for a... 'raid'. Could you have all necessary documents packaged in brown boxes by then? Thank you.. Sorry.. Thanks.. Sorry to bother.. Thank you."

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Postby Video-Link Japan » Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:40 pm

GuyJean wrote:Thank you.. Sorry.. Thanks.. Sorry to bother.. Thank you."


Yoroshiku.. and many bowing actions, even though they are on the phone..!!! :lol:
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Mo' puff pieces (Re: TBS Coverage on Monday Night}

Postby Taro Toporific » Tue Apr 13, 2004 2:01 pm

GuyJean wrote:
dingosatemybaby wrote:..but it did seem like they giving Mori the kid-glove treatment.

Mori owns Japan, and we all know the media's number one motto]

Well the FG press seems to throwing slow and easy pitches at Mori too. Check out these puff pieces. Sheesh.

MORI BUILDING/MORI TRUST
Apr. 19, 2004 issue of TIME magazine
Minoru and Akira Mori split up and built successful real estate companies on their own. One brother now talks of building Utopia, while the other is content to just build 2003 Revenues: $2.25 billion...

Japan Works
by Caspar Weinberger, FORBES Magazine 04.26.04, 12:00 AM ET.... optimism may be a bit overstated after years of gloom, bad news and poor prospects.....In short, Japan "works" again, and that is very good news. ...In the area of property development few can match or even come close to the famed Mori empire of the brothers Akira and Minoru Mori. Akira owns some 83 downtown Tokyo properties. Minoru owns 70 large and 52 lesser properties. He has justcompleted a massive project in the Roppongi Hills of Tokyo,comprising apartment buildings, hotels and office towers. We had the opportunity to gaze out from the 53rd floor of one of these; the view is spectacular. But even more interesting is the exhibit inside the building: "Kusamatrix," the works of contemporary artist Yayoi Kusama. The exhibition is unrivaled in its innovation and highly creative style. To experience one of Ms. Kusama's most unusual works, patrons step into a totally dark chamber whose only lighting is a swarm of fireflies dancing in the air.
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Postby GuyJean » Tue Apr 20, 2004 5:51 pm

133 People Injured in 270 Revolving Door Accidents
http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/news/20040420p2a00m0dm001001c.html
A total of 133 people have been injured in 270 recent accidents involving revolving doors, a government poll has found.
Between when and when?.....?
Guards are on hand at the remaining 128 doors.
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Of the 133 injured people, 23 suffered broken bones.
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Happy Antiversary!

Postby GuyJean » Tue Apr 27, 2004 9:47 pm

Roppongi Hills Cancels Birthday Bash
http://www.asahi.com/english/nation/TKY200404270157.html
Sunday, its first anniversary, passed without any elaborate ceremonies. Officials explained this was out of respect for Ryo Mizokawa, the 6-year-old boy tragically killed in a revolving door accident one month ago.

The complex in Minato Ward also canceled most events that had been planned during the Golden Week holidays that start Thursday...

The number of visitors to the center's luxury brand shops and restaurants also fell after it was revealed that 32 revolving-door incidents had occurred at the complex since last year's opening...

Officers of Tokyo's Metropolitan Police Department investigating possible professional negligence resulting in death believe that both Mori Building and revolving-door supplier Sanwa Tajima Corp. were well aware of the risk.

Police learned that Mori Building and Sanwa Tajima came out with six safety measures after a similar accident in December. But most measures were not put in place, resulting in another injury accident in February.

The shops should sue Mori for lost business caused by their negligence.. :idea:

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Postby Taro Toporific » Mon Jun 28, 2004 7:28 am

dingosatemybaby wrote:
..but it did seem like they giving Mori the kid-glove treatment.

GuyJean wrote:
Mori owns Japan, and we all know the media's number one motto; "Politeness without critical analysis".


Japan's 'killer doors' to spin again
Straits Times, Singapore - June 28
http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/asia/story/0,4386,258720,00.html
More than three months after a 1.5-tonne door crushed a six-year-old boy to death, the government is ready to vouch that such doors are safe. ..
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Postby AssKissinger » Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:25 am

Japan's 'killer doors' to spin again
Straits Times, Singapore - June 28
More than three months after a 1.5-tonne door crushed a six-year-old boy to death, the government is ready to vouch that such doors are safe.

Good they shouldn't have stopped them in the first place. And...

Shitty neglectful J-parenting continues to kill stupid kids.

http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/news/20040628p2a00m0dm012000c.html

2-year-old boy playing on the belt of an escalator located in a shopping complex in Nishinomiya, Hyogo Prefecture, fell 10 meters from the fourth to the second floor and died.


Nice one mom. Fucking cunt.


a 2-year-old boy was seriously injured after falling from an escalator installed in an atrium of a shopping complex in Ashikaga, Tochigi Prefecture, in 1996.

"There are a growing number of buildings that have atriums, so we would like to ask building managers to take safety measures," an association official said


Why should the buildings take safety measures? It's not their fault these murdering mothers are too lazy to watch their kids and hold their hands.


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Staffers posted on each floor of department stores are taking care to prevent children from wandering around by themselves. They've taken sufficient safety measures such as installation of protective nets around escalators,"


What a bunch of BULLSHIT to have to pay people to watch the lazy cunt mother's kids and why should normal people have to look at these ugly ass safety nets?

Too lazy to care for a kid? Be like AK and DON'T BREED!
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Postby GuyJean » Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:35 am

AssKissinger wrote:Why should the buildings take safety measures? It's not their fault these murdering mothers are too lazy to watch their kids and hold their hands.
Didn't we already cover this in the previous 4 pages? :roll:

When there are design flaws, there should be accountability. It's very simple..

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Postby AssKissinger » Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:44 am

Didn't we already cover this in the previous 4 pages?


Yeah, but I decided to restate my opinion for the newbies.

When there are design flaws, there should be accountability. It's very simple..


I wouldn't call being a stupid cunt a 'design flaw' I think it's more of a learned behavior but I agree that these mothers need to be held accountable. They should be forced to do a bukkake film. That way everyone wins. Except the dead kid :evil: . He loses.
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