It's official: Jenkins is faking & crazy

[Taro Toporific]

NTV is showing the Japanese doctor of Jenkins saying, "he ok in our preliminary checks...he needs to be continue hospitalization for severe stress." Note the translation from AP sucks.

US Consults Hospital on Accused Deserter
Guardian, UK - 23 July
TOKYO (AP) - A delegation from the U.S. Embassy met Friday with officials at the Tokyo hospital where accused U.S. Army deserter Charles Jenkins is receiving treatment, the Japanese government said.
... the doctors treating Jenkins said at a news conference that his condition did not seem to be too serious. Citing privacy laws, they refused to specify his ailment.
"Looking at initial screening tests, his condition doesn't seem to be particularly bad,'' said the hospital's deputy chief, Dr. Atsushi Nakais .

[Ol Dirty Gaijin]

Burn Burn Burn Burn Burn Burn Burn Burn Burn Burn

[Bongo]

[Taro Toporific]

Burn Burn Burn Burn Burn Burn Burn Burn Burn Burn

AP fixes their shitty translation...

Doctors say accused Army deserter's condition not serious, more tests needed
Associated Press / updated: July 23. 2004 5:54AM
Doctors who have been treating an accused U.S. Army deserter in Japan said Friday his condition isn't serious and that he doesn't need urgent medical care, but that more tests will be carried out.
North Carolina native Charles Jenkins, wanted by the United States for allegedly abandoning his Army platoon in 1965 and defecting to North Korea, has been hospitalized in Tokyo since arriving in Japan on Sunday. Japanese officials say Jenkins, who has lived in the North for nearly four decades, was suffering the aftereffects of an abdominal operation performed in the communist state.
The United States plans to pursue a case against Jenkins, including a possible court-martial, but has not yet officially requested custody of him, citing humanitarian concerns over his health.
It wasn't clear if Japanese doctors' latest diagnosis would prompt U.S. officials to request his handover soon.
Citing privacy laws, doctors refused to specify Jenkins' ailment. But the hospital's deputy chief, Dr. Atsushi Nagai, said: "After examining him, it appears there is no need for immediate medical treatment."

[Ol Dirty Gaijin]

Maybe he is suffering sweaty ball sack like the rest of us.
Bless his cotton socks and get well soon.

[Taro Toporific]

Maybe he is suffering sweaty ball sack like the rest of us.
Bless his cotton socks and get well soon.

......"we have found following checkups in Jakarta and Japan that there is only a slight possibility that he has a serious disease,'' Atsushi Nagai, deputy director of the Tokyo Women's Medical University Hospital, told a press conference.
But he added, ''As for his mental state, we believe he is suffering from severe stress due to various issues, and is no condition to return to normal life immediately. He needs to stay in hospital and try and regain his mental equilibrium.''
---Jenkins not in serious condition but to stay in hospital
TOKYO, July 23, Kyodo

[Taro Toporific]

[moog]

my j gf and i are embroiled in a debate about the jenkins case. she is siding with jenkins saying that the US should cut him a break since it was so long ago and that he just wants to be reunited with his family. i tell her that it's a matter of principle.

i then tell her about the poor old man that got 1 1/2 years of prison for stealing pocky in kamakura. i said that the penalty was excessive and he should be resentenced to a small fine and probation. she had no sympathy for him. she stated it was a matter of principle.

*sigh*

[Skankster]

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Good luck Mr. Jenkins

and when you get out... give them HELL.

[Skankster]

i then tell her about the poor old man that got 1 1/2 years of prison for stealing pocky in kamakura. i said that the penalty was excessive and he should be resentenced to a small fine and probation. she had no sympathy for him. she stated it was a matter of principle.

*sigh*

Mr. Jenkins didnt steal anything. He excercised his right of freedom of choice.

[moog]

Mr. Jenkins didnt steal anything. He excercised his right of freedom of choice.

you call it "freedom of choice", i call it "deserting" which is a crime. fuck him.

[AssKissinger]

I say give the diamond geezer a break.

[cstaylor]

What does the USMJ say about 15yr old boys signing up for the military?

[Caustic Saint]

Mr. Jenkins didnt steal anything. He excercised his right of freedom of choice.

you call it "freedom of choice", i call it "deserting" which is a crime. fuck him.

There is no question of choice, except that Jenkins chose to commit a crime. The Uniform Code of Military Justice (which all servicemembers agree to follow) says that deserting is a crime.

When Jenkins deserted he commited a crime. Pretty cut and dried, really.

[AssKissinger]

Who wants to see this guy tossed in the stockade? Pongi? Taro? Caustic? Am I alone in saying give him a break?

[Caustic Saint]

Who wants to see this guy tossed in the stockade? Pongi? Taro? Caustic? Am I alone in saying give him a break?

Why should he get a break?

[cstaylor]

Who wants to see this guy tossed in the stockade? Pongi? Taro? Caustic? Am I alone in saying give him a break?

Why should he get a break?

Good diplomacy.

[AssKissinger]

Why should he get a break?

His wife is ugly. His kids are horrific. He spent three decades in NK. He's old. I feel sorry for him even if he is faking. I don't know why exactly, there's something I like about the old guy. Plus, like cstaylor says, just to be friendly to Japan. If Koizumi asked Bush and Bush did it it would make Koizumi look even cooler. They should do that.

[GuyJean]

His wife is ugly. His kids are horrific. He spent three decades in NK. He's old. I feel sorry for him even if he is faking.

I agree, but for different reasons; actually, I have mixed feelings about it, but didn't Reagan pardon draft dodgers and AWOLers of the Vietnam War? Which was AFTER the Korean War. I know; technically, the war is still on, but it's been long enough, hasn't it?

Shouldn't Bush be held to the same rigid punishment if he has no proof, neither human nor paper, that he showed up for duty? If we let Bush slide, we should let Jenkins slide.

Like I said, I'm mixed, but leaning towards 'let him go'.. The US might be threatening punishment, just to get Jenkins talking on NK secrets. If they don't, Jenkins has no reason to plea-bargain.

GJ

[Caustic Saint]

Shouldn't Bush be held to the same rigid punishment if he has no proof, neither human nor paper, that he showed up for duty? If we let Bush slide, we should let Jenkins slide.J

Yes, he should be. Neither one should allowed to "slide."

[AssKissinger]

didn't Reagan pardon draft dodgers and AWOLers of the Vietnam War?

I think Carter did that. Let's Google.

They may even just 'grab' him if they have a chance.

The Japanese would shit if the CIA kidnapped him.

[GuyJean]

I think Carter did that. Let's Google.

Yep, you're right. It was Carter:
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Draft-dodger

GJ

[cstaylor]

They may even just 'grab' him if they have a chance.

The Japanese would shit if the CIA kidnapped him.

I agree. That would be the biggest public relations disaster for the CIA since the case of the Iraqi WMD.

[GuyJean]

That would be the biggest public relations disaster for the CIA since the WMD in Iraq was never found.

Disaster? Or 'diversionary tactic'?

GJ

[Socratesabroad]

As one of posters here who's actually served, I guess I'll have to disagree with AK, sadly enough.

If The Man without a Country here had just fled to Canada or disappeared while on leave somewhere, I guess I might feel a bit more sympathy. His desertion on the lines, endangering his unit, followed by traitorous behavior and collaboration with the enemy destroyed any pang of sympathy I might have had. This guy needs to be put up against a wall and shot. Period.

But in reality capping that bitch wouldn't mean much since he's pretty much been forgotten and I doubt any soldiers in the future would ever seek to emulate him.

So what to do? Make him persona non grata vis-a-vis the US and leave the chopping block out: you ever return and the sentence with be immediately carried out - we have a blindfold and stretch of wall with your name all over it...

[AssKissinger]

Jenkins, wanted by the United States for allegedly abandoning his Army platoon in 1965 and defecting to North Korea

The fighting ended in '53 so it's not like he just rolled out on his unit and joined the enemy during a full on war.

[Socratesabroad]

Shouldn't Bush be held to the same rigid punishment if he has no proof, neither human nor paper, that he showed up for duty? If we let Bush slide, we should let Jenkins slide.

Umm (struggling to avoid falling off the chair), what the heck are you on about??? I'm still shaking my head in disbelief as the two situations are so far from comparable....

You can re-read a bit of what I've said about paperwork and the military, as well as my own experience being listed as AWOL here:
http://www.fuckedgaijin.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7613&highlight=

That kind of thing is a far, far cry from desertion of your unit on the lines (we'll debate whether this was 'during wartime' later) compounded by repeated colloboration and cooperation with the enemy. So, no, Bush shouldn't be subjected to the same rigid punishment because the severity of Jenkins' crimes is so much greater.

[GuyJean]

(struggling to avoid falling off the chair)

Don't hit your head on the corner of the table.

what the heck are you on about??? I'm still shaking my head in disbelief as the two situations are so far from comparable....

I'd agree that it's a stretch, but 'far from comparable'? Hardly]You can re-read a bit of what I've said about paperwork and the military, as well as my own experience being listed as AWOL here:
http://www.fuckedgaijin.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7613&highlight=[/quote] Read it. So you kept copies to prove you weren't AWOL, correct? Plus, I bet you can contact a physical person to vouch for your story. Interesting that Bush doesn't.. Oh, but wait. They suddenly found something. But it shows he WASN'T paid.. Hhhhmm:

In May 1972, Bush moved to Alabama to work on a political campaign and, he has said, to perform his Guard service there for a year. But other Guard officers have said they have no recollection of ever seeing him there.

The documents released on Friday by the Pentagon included two faded computerized payroll sheets showing Bush was not paid during the latter part of 1972 and offer no evidence to place Bush in Alabama during the latter part of 1972. http://us.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/23/bush.military.records.reut/index.html

Wow.. That cleared things up.

That kind of thing is a far, far cry from desertion of your unit on the lines (we'll debate whether this was 'during wartime' later) compounded by repeated colloboration and cooperation with the enemy.

So the meaning of AWOL has a grey area? Has it been proven Jenkin's collaborated with NK? Until they prove it, he's only guilty of the same crime Bush is; AWOL.

GJ

[GuyJean]

.. then one day he'll just disappear. And that will be it. He'll never be seen nor heard from again. Period. And yeah, it would be a news item for a little while, but not very long at all. And of course, the news would be that the North Koreans decided that they wanted him back and that they kidnapped him because Japan was not fully cooperating in their previously negotiated economic support deals.

You might be on to something, RP

Of course, the CIA could always do it the more diplomatic way]Force[/i] him to 'return to quiet NK' due to his declining health, brought on by 'stressful' Japan and constant hounding by Japanese yes-monkeys.. This way, a tearful good-bye photo op would make intense drama along with assured safety sleeping.. A sorrowful Disney ending.

GJ

[moog]

[quote="GuyJean"]
So the meaning of AWOL has a grey area? Has it been proven Jenkin's collaborated with NK? Until they prove it, he's only guilty of the same crime Bush is]

um, you're kidding, right??

even if bush went awol (he didn't), it's nowhere near the same as jenkins DESERTING.

i find it pathetic that he uses the japanese media to gain sympathy. i was in tokyo last week and was appalled to see him groveling on every fucking channel. there's no shame in his game.