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Postby Dhee » Tue Aug 17, 2004 6:44 pm

Taro Toporific wrote:
Dhee wrote:{Bobby] decided to marry Miyoko Watai, acting head of the Japan Chess Association, his lawyer, Masako Suzuki, said Monday."

Must be love, twue, twue wuvvv! Lucky "Princess Bride!"


Idonknow about that one.
Bobby already has a wife and kid in the Philippines
I'd go for his laywer Masako Suzuki (L) rather than his groupie from 1971 Miyoko Watai (R) :)

Maybe he should consent to be transported back to the US, preferrably Utah... then he can have as many wives as he wants ... each one to serve "a purpose" (good cook, good *** errr, lover), good chess player, good psychiatrist, good hairdresser... list can go on ad infinitum, neh?
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Postby Dhee » Tue Aug 17, 2004 6:52 pm

Taro Toporific wrote:
Dhee wrote:Must be love, twue, twue wuvvv! Lucky "Princess Bride!"l


But Fischer is no "Prince".....

Bobby, the unprince wrote:"They're all weak, all women. They're stupid compared to men. They shouldn't play chess, you know. They're like beginners. They lose every single game against a man.

http://www.dmv.demon.nl/newpage0.html


LOL - Taro: forgot to say that of course Watai's face clearly show tears of joy!!! Hm, if Watai plays chess, and she loses every single game against a man, maybe that is twwue wuv for Bobby! Don't you see it?
And wasn't the "Prince" in the movie "Pincess Bride" quite ditzy?
Won't blame you for voting for the lawyer. <sigh> <men!> <sigh> Hmm. woman are definitely different: while adoring sexy beerbellies and ignoring hunky examples of the specimen, we love you for your minds!
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Postby Dhee » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:01 am

Steve Bildermann wrote:So now Mr. Fischer is going to add 'marrying' a Japanese to the now almost laughable list of 'gambits' he has been 'advised' to try.

1 - Appealing his detention
2 - Appealing his deportation
3 - Applying for asylum in Japan
4 - Applied for asylum in a third country (Serbia??)
5 - Renouncing his nationality.
6 - Marrying a Japanese

And after this one is laffed out of court what's next....oh yes of course

7. Applying for Japanese citizenship

And after that....well there's really only one thing left...



I'm not a connaisseur of sepukku - but don't you need a Second? (Chess Grandmasters always have Seconds, too!) And who'd be poor Bobby's Second to make sure that he'd die an honorable death? Any volunteers?

I wanna see blood! Guts! Intestines! Not some toppled over white or black wooden chess piece symbolizing death.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:19 am

Dhee wrote:I'm not a connaisseur of sepukku - but don't you need a Second? (Chess Grandmasters always have Seconds, too!) And who'd be poor Bobby's Second to make sure that he'd die an honorable death?


Just as long as the Second doesn't perform the botched job like Mishima's. Tell us if there's any inside, Steve's rest-of-the-story on what REALLY happened.
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Postby Dhee » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:40 am

Taro Toporific wrote:
Dhee wrote:I'm not a connaisseur of sepukku - but don't you need a Second? (Chess Grandmasters always have Seconds, too!) And who'd be poor Bobby's Second to make sure that he'd die an honorable death?


Just as long as the Second doesn't perform the botched job like Mishima's. Us there any inside, Steve's rest-of-the-story on what REALLY happened.


Fascinating read, Taro (the article) - might have to get Stokes' book now. How did Mishima's Second botch the job?
(mumble: I read through Musashi - did I miss something on seppuku?)
(mumble: James Clavell doesn't have anything either, I'm sure)

Serious question to you now: what do you mean when you say: "...Us there any inside..." Sorry, English is not my native language, so I might miss something here.
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Postby Steve Bildermann » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:49 am

I make it a point not to comment too much on 'family' matters.

It's enough that I'm now 'tolerated' because I've been in Japan so long, clearly stay out of the Nippon-ron politics and I somewhat mentally unstable.

However two of the swords used at Ichigaya are leaning up against the back of my fridge and I have his sunrise 'Hachimaki and white gloves in my socks drawer. :D
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Postby Taro Toporific » Wed Aug 18, 2004 11:02 am

Dhee wrote:Serious question to you now: what do you mean when you say: "...Us there any inside..." Sorry, English is not my native language, so I might miss something here.


Sorry. That's a cut-&-paste mistake. It should read, "Tell us if there's any inside, Steve's rest-of-the-story on what REALLY happened."

The "problem" is I actually know Stokes and Don Keene who both knew and wrote books for and about Mishima.... as well as knowing Steve who's even just a bit closer to family. Everyone is all nudge-nudge-wink-wink about it. Of course if this was a suicide back home, nobody would want to talk about it either. As the story says, it's "glancing into the mirror ourselves. "
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"Famous scofflaws" looove Japan

Postby Taro Toporific » Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:37 am

Image<--Bobby's bride (R) Bobby's legal-beagle (L)

Famous scofflaws hit Japan
---Bobby Fischer, the American chess legend, is in Japan fighting a US deportation order--

By Bennett Richardson / August 20, 2004 edition / The Christian Science Monitor

TOKYO –
For a country that shut out foreigners for hundreds of years, Japan has proved strangely attractive for problem migrants of late. The latest gaijin to show up in Japan is chess legend Bobby Fischer....

....Also entangled in extradition proceedings here are former Peruvian President Alberto Fujimori, and Sgt. Charles Jenkins, who is accused by the US of deserting to North Korea. In both men's cases, fame and kinship connections to the nation have engendered sympathetic treatment in this insular society. However, Fischer's star-power - neither he nor the game of chess have big followings here - may not be bright enough to spur Japan to risk alienating its close ally, the US.....

...."It's a rather political matter, so the government is being very careful," says Naoya Wada, an immigration lawyer in Tokyo.....Fischer is waiting on an appeal to Japan's justice minister to recognize his passport as revoked without due process and thus valid. Mr. Wada says the problem in the Fischer case may not have been the passport, but an expired visa - which means that if Fischer is able to legally marry before his two-month detention period is up, he could have grounds to legalize his stay in Japan. Indeed, the status of the passport is key - a valid US passport or document confirming citizenship is essential to register a marriage in Japan....

....Different dynamics are at work in the cases of Messrs. Jenkins and Fujimori. Fujimori is currently holed up somewhere in Japan while Peru seeks his extradition to face charges that he authorized massacres during his rule. The extradition request was submitted more than a year ago, but the case has become bogged down due to Fujimori's right to protection as a Japanese citizen that was extended to him when his Japanese-born parents registered his birth at a consulate in Peru.

Japan has also successfully held the US back from arresting the accused defector Jenkins, given his poor health as he meets with lawyers to discuss his case....

....The tiptoeing by Tokyo around the extradition cases of famous people contrasts sharply with a new crackdown on everyday immigration at major airports as Japan aims to stop terrorists crossing its borders. Since Sept. 11, 2001, Tokyo has stepped up its investigations of illegal aliens - with some surprising results. Some 8,000 foreign nationals were denied entry at Japan's two largest airports last year, up 9 percent from a year earlier.
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Re: "Famous scofflaws" looove Japan

Postby torasan » Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:09 pm

Taro Toporific wrote:...The tiptoeing by Tokyo around the extradition cases of *famous* people contrasts sharply with a new crackdown on everyday immigration at major airports ...


The money quote!

Like those Californians who were one day overstays after teaching for a year, and they were detained and deported and told can't return for five years. Maybe ten now. Not famous. One was Japanese-American.

SF Chronicle and Japan Times carried story two months ago.
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Postby amdg » Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:20 pm

I accidently overstayed my visa for two weeks this year, and went down to immigration to voluntarily turn myself in - Don't worry was all they said, and gave me a brand new three years. :D Famous in Japan, kana?

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Re: "Famous scofflaws" looove Japan

Postby Taro Toporific » Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:25 pm

torasan wrote:
Taro Toporific wrote:...The tiptoeing by Tokyo around the extradition cases of *famous* people contrasts sharply with a new crackdown on everyday immigration at major airports ...

The money quote!

SF Chronicle and Japan Times carried story two months ago.



YeS! I looooove the quote too.

We've covered it in many old FG threads including:
:arrow: Japanese immigration rats out refugees
Thu Aug 05, 2004 8:28 am
:arrow: Japan gets tough on visa violatorsTue Aug 03, 2004 12:49 am

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Japan gets tough on visa violators

This appeared on the front page of today's San Francisco Chronicle:

1-day overstay can bring time in cell, 5-year banishment
by Catherine Makino, Chronicle Foreign Service

"Tokyo - When Bay Area students Angela Luna and Richard Nishizawa tried to board a plane bound for San Francisco in March, airport authorities threw them in a small holding cell and held them incommunicado for several days before banishing them from Japan for five years.

Luna and Nishizawa, who had studied Japanese for a year at Reitaku University about 20 miles northeast of Tokyo, were not arrested for committing a serious crime. They had merely stayed in the country two weeks longer than their visas permitted.

"We had valid 5-year visas, so we didn't bother to look at our immigration stamps," Luna, 27, said by telephone from her home in Lafayette. "The guards made me change my clothes because they had drawstrings. They thought I might use it as a weapon, or strangle someone. We were treated like criminals."

Nishizawa, 31 who lives in Martinez, says he was handcuffed, strip searched, placed in a 20-by-20 foot cell with four other foreigners and given a mat to sleep on.

The Justice Ministry argues that the crackdown is warranted because some 220,000 foreigners violated their visas last year....Tatsuro Kitazono, an immigration officer in Tokyo, says the crackdown is linked to a 17 percent jump in crime by foreigners in the past year. In 2003, police say foreigners committed 40,615 criminal acts - mostly theft, fraud and forgery...."

Be careful out there.

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Postby Mulboyne » Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:52 pm

More decisive opinions from Asahi Shimbun's Tensei Jingo (Vox Populi Vox Dei) Column

Chess fans prefer a draw for Bobby Fischer
Chess tournaments often end in a draw. In the days to come, I expect a tug-of-war to continue between Washington and Tokyo over this chess genius. But rather than extradite him, could they not possibly call a draw? I imagine this is the wish of chess fans around the world.
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Postby Dhee » Sun Aug 29, 2004 11:15 am

Taro Toporific wrote:
Dhee wrote:I'm not a connaisseur of seppuku - but don't you need a Second? (Chess Grandmasters always have Seconds, too!) And who'd be poor Bobby's Second to make sure that he'd die an honorable death?


Just as long as the Second doesn't perform the botched job like Mishima's. Tell us if there's any inside, Steve's rest-of-the-story on what REALLY happened.


<furiously reading... page 17:

"'Out!", screamed Mishima once again.
The men facing him made no move.
Mishima swung the sword...'"


Sorry, TT, nothing juicy about Steve yet.

<continuing to read>
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Fischer fears 'prison, torture & murder' but not buggery

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Re: Fischer fears 'prison, torture & murder' but not bug

Postby Mulboyne » Mon Aug 30, 2004 9:51 am

Taro Toporific wrote:"I don't want Spassky in my cell. I want a chick."

Fischer hasn't completely lost it, then.
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Postby Steve Bildermann » Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:07 am

I don't want Spassky in my cell. I want a chick.

...Wonder what the old ball and chain thinks about that comment...

"A chick, you want a chick, I give you a chick just wait till I get you home, you good for nothing, lazy chess playing goofoff. And here's me working my fingers to bone for all your fines and bail money. And don't talk to me about how many people think your a genius, oh yes you're a genius all right, a genius at skiving off work.

And when are you going to get that beard of yours cut.....

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Postby Andocrates » Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:38 am

Steve Bildermann wrote:
I don't want Spassky in my cell. I want a chick.

...Wonder what the old ball and chain thinks about that comment...

"A chick, you want a chick, I give you a chick just wait till I get you home, you good for nothing, lazy chess playing goofoff. And here's me working my fingers to bone for all your fines and bail money. And don't talk to me about how many people think your a genius, oh yes you're a genius all right, a genius at skiving off work.

And when are you going to get that beard of yours cut.....

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Postby Steve Bildermann » Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:24 am

F I S C H E R F I L E S

Fischer speaks from behind bars

Live on-air interview Bobby Fischer gave from his cell to a Manila Broadcasting Company radio station in the Philippines on August 20, 2004.

-- WARNING --

Some people may find the material in this audio broadcast offensive.

:arrow: Very thorough presentation of this story - Well done Mainichi
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Postby kamome » Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:22 am

Bobby Fischer...what a fuckin' freakazoid. And the reporters are just fawning all over him: "Oh Bobby, we in the Philippines hope you can make us your country of choice!" What's the deal with that? Total friggin' psychopath.
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Shocked

Postby Marvin Feltcher » Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:30 am

And the reporters are just fawning all over him

I was shocked the way everybody giggled whenever Fischer launched a tirade against the Jews. I'm pretty callous, but they took the cake.

Well done Mainichi

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Re: Shocked

Postby kamome » Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:18 pm

Marvin wrote:
And the reporters are just fawning all over him

I was shocked the way everybody giggled whenever Fischer launched a tirade against the Jews. I'm pretty callous, but they took the cake.


Yes, that was shocking. They were just so giddy about getting to interview a "genius" that they were willing to tolerate whatever bile he was spewing at them. Every other word out of his mouth is "filthy Jew" this and "filthy America" that. What is his f-ing problem? (sorry, I'm coming to the Bobby Fischer discussion much later than everyone else, so maybe this was covered already).
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Joining the discussion...

Postby Bosnitch » Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:01 am

Hello forum participants,

A friend pointed me to this site and I now hope to be able to keep you a bit better informed about what is happening in the Fischer case.

I see that there has been considerable speculation here about various factors in the battle to defend Bobby Fischer's inalienable rights and I hope to be able to answer at least some of the questions you might pose...

As I am very much overloaded with the work involved in this battle, please try to be patient sometimes in waiting for responses.

It's a pleasure to join the discussion...

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Postby Taro Toporific » Thu Sep 02, 2004 10:27 am

Bosnitch wrote:John Bosnitch
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You "forgot" to list your (EDIT: SOMEBODY ELSE'S) FreeBobby.org website.

EDIT: the real site is FreeBobbyFischer.net

Are ya getting a royality on these?
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Almost off-topic is this quote by Boris Spassky in last Sunday's Daily Telegraph about Bobby:
".... the most romantic of all openings is the King's Gambit (1. e4 e5 2. f4!). ... the King's Gambit has had a somewhat dodgy reputation ever since it was first mentioned in Lucena's manuscript of 1497. ....
Over the years the most successful practitioner of the King's Gambit has been Boris Spassky. His record of 16 victories and no defeats (with some draws) is unsurpassed. [u]His victims include two of the most illustrious names in chess history &#8211]and Anatoly Karpov – and his famous brilliancy against Bronstein was used as the opening scene of the Bond movie From Russia with Love.
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Web site, royalties

Postby Bosnitch » Thu Sep 02, 2004 11:44 am

Our committee's Web site is:

http://www.freebobbyfischer.net

We have not made any T-shirts here in Japan and would not do so for a profit if we did.


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Re: Joining the discussion...

Postby omae mona » Thu Sep 02, 2004 5:45 pm

Taro Toporific wrote:Are ya getting a royality on these?

Aw, Taro, not fair to accuse them of profiteering. To the contrary, as far as I can tell they've been very generous, giving out these Free Booby Posters. I'm not sure what they have to do with the topic at hand, but I can't complain.

John - wouldja mind if we bounced a bunch of questions at you? Boy, are we curious!!

[EDIT: don't I get a free cappuccino with post #200? Where do I claim it?]
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omae mona wrote:[EDIT: don't I get a free cappuccino with post #200? Where do I claim it?]

Taro's house, but there's the small matter of a pink tutu and a few other things required to get your free drink.
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