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Just attended my first Japanese funeral - take two

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Just attended my first Japanese funeral - take two

Postby cstaylor » Sat Sep 14, 2002 11:32 pm

Couldn't get a word in edgewise in that previous thread... :roll:

Okay, I knew the family (I've played golf with the father three or four times), but I had never met his youngest son (the deceased).

GomiGirl: we didn't have coins in this funeral. Perhaps it depends on the priests the family picks, or maybe just a family preference?

Now, about the chopsticks: I had a difficult time with this, and I didn't even know the deceased... I can't imagine what the family and close relatives were experiencing. The priests (with the help of the crematory employees) slide the casket into a silver cart, and everyone is urged to have a final look at the deceased before the cremation. When they open the top of the casket, the deceased's face is surrounded by flowers (I don't know what kind they are).

Once everyone is done paying their respects, the casket is closed and loaded into the cremation chamber. Next, the priests set up a table where we offer our last respects as the body is consumed... it's difficult to describe, but the priests are chanting as we lift (what I think is ash, but I don't really know), bow to it, and place it over in a separate container.

After everyone is finished here, the guests go over to a waiting room, where most people drink something with alcohol in it (after seeing that poor kid's face, I must have finished one of those large Asahi battles by myself) while the cremation is in progress. It took about a half-hour.

We are called back into the cremation room, and the employees open the chamber and remove the remains... for me, this was the roughest part. They *scrape* the bones and ash that have fused themselves to the board into a large metal container, and then the priests bring the container over to a large table. They do something that I couldn't see (I'm not as tall as Brad), and then we line up in pairs to approach the table. The bones have been sorted (my wife told me that certain bones must be placed by the family at the end). I stand next to my wife, and we lift what looks like a joint of some kind (I'm no doctor, so I'm not sure what we had) together using our chopsticks. All the time the priests are chanting... it's tough to describe, but I'm very glad that I drank before this part of the funeral. :(
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Postby kamome » Sun Sep 22, 2002 12:23 am

CS--

Sorry to hear you had to go through that. I've never attended a Japanese funeral, but I have sat through an o-bon memorial ceremony for a family's son who died at age 21 in a skiiing accident. That was horrible, but it doesn't compare with what you went through.
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Re: Just attended my first Japanese funeral - take two

Postby GomiGirl » Thu Sep 26, 2002 9:55 pm

cstaylor wrote:GomiGirl: we didn't have coins in this funeral. Perhaps it depends on the priests the family picks, or maybe just a family preference?


It is usually the family's choice as to what goes in the casket prior to burning. Of course there are flowers and then there are some of the favourite items of the deceased - clothes, photos, momentos, anything really. There is usually money of some description put into the coffin as well... I have personally seen coins as well as paper money. I did also double check with friends to confirm this is a common tradition considering the flaming of late, but I am pleased to confirm that I was right. 8)
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Just some small input to this subject

Postby jasper » Tue Oct 01, 2002 1:09 pm

I've been to 4 funerals in Japan now, and everything noted by the posters is correct - there are variations from ceremony to ceremony, depending on the family.

In the case of a friend who died at a relatively early age from breast cancer we were asked to provide a photo of our dog to place in her casket before cremation - during her chemo and other therapies she had taken comfort in visitng the dog, I guess the visits were a kind of therapy for her also (though I thought it an unusual request at the time we complied).

My more inside experience came with my father-in-law's death some years ago. Not to get into too much details, but as the sole remaining male of the immediate family I was required to give the final toast (at the reception/lunch for relatives following cremation). Where we would usually say "kampai" in an normal Japanese toast it is very important to pronounce as "kempai". Completely different kanji, meaning/nuance, etc. but very close in pronunciation. Spent lots of time practicing because it is important for the situation.

Well, maybe not so interesting for you all but I thought it was on subject so might as well share it.
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