Das Boot!

[Captain Japan]

Japan's navy gives chase to suspicious sub
Mainichi

The government ordered the Maritime Self-Defense Force (MSDF) to chase an unidentified submarine that was spotted in Japan's territorial waters around southwestern Okinawa Prefecture Wednesday morning, a government spokesman said.

The submarine subsequently left Japan's territorial waters, but the MSDF remains on full alert in case it intrudes into territorial waters again, Chief Cabinet Secretary Hiroyuki Hosoda told a news conference.

"It's extremely regrettable. We need to clarify the purpose of the intrusion and the nationality of the submarine among other questions," Hosoda said.

Even through the submarine left Japan's territorial waters, the P3C aircraft is continuing to pursue the vessel. The nationality of the submarine has not yet been confirmed.

Anyone want to place a bet? Think Jenkins is on his way home?

[Taro Toporific]

It's Das Moose Boot!

Unidentified submarine spotted in Japanese waters off Okinawa
The Canadian Press, 22:12 on November 9, 2004, EST.
TOKYO (AP) -

[Mulboyne]

Kyodo via Japan Today: Gov't suspects intruder submarine was Chinese

The MSDF has spotted two Chinese Navy vessels — one to rescue submarines and another to tow other ships — operating in waters southeast of Tanegashima Island since Friday, and is examining their possible relationships to the incident, MSDF officers said.
The two Chinese ships were observed repeatedly changing their direction and speed on Monday in waters some 315 kilometers southeast of the island, but left toward the East China Sea on Tuesday, they said.
There is a possibility the sub concerned was having trouble, according to the sources.

In related news: Kyodo via Japan Today: China slams Japan for calling it a threat

BEIJING — China's Foreign Ministry rejected Tuesday the Japanese Defense Agency's reported statements calling China a military threat and disputed the spread of reports that Japan is setting up a system to gather intelligence on Chinese warships.
China's policies promote peace with its Asian neighbors, ministry spokeswoman Zhang Qiyue said, and its development threatens no one. She urged that no one should spread information indicating China is a threat in the region. (Kyodo News)

[Taro Toporific]

As I see it, if it really was the Chinese, there isn't much that Japan Gov. Inc. (JGI KK) will do about this except complain publicly and then it will be out of the news pretty quick.

On the 7am TV news, it the top story--- NHK is saying it's a NUKE sub, with ?engine? trouble.

Japan on alert after intrusion by suspected Chinese nuclear sub
The Times, UK - 11 NovTENSION between Japan and China grew yesterday when an unidentified nuclear submarine sailed into Japanese waters. The submarine ...

[Taro Toporific]

In related news: Kyodo via Japan Today: China slams Japan for calling it a threat

Japanese defense strategists look to China's attack threa....the have
3 scenarios in which China attacks Japan. Note all the scenarios involve sea attacks stemming from disputes over ocean resources and claims over the Senkaku Islands as well as a clash across the Taiwan Strait,

See Saturday's Japan Times
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?nn20041109f3.htm

[kurohinge1]

Maybe it's the missing midget sub from the Sydney harbour attack in 1942 :lol: ... finally limping home after successfully avoiding allied patrols for 62 years

[Mulboyne]

Hosoda says Japan can't identify sub because it 'stays under water'
TOKYO — Japan continued to track an intruder submarine on Thursday that entered its waters Wednesday, but Chief Cabinet Secretary Hiroyuki Hosoda said it was still too early to identify the vessel, despite media reports that it was a Chinese nuclear submarine.
"We are still tracking the submarine outside our territorial waters," Hosoda told a news conference. He said Japan has yet to identify its nationality "because it stays underwater."

[kurohinge1]

... "We are still tracking the submarine outside our territorial waters," Hosoda told a news conference. He said Japan has yet to identify its nationality "because it stays underwater." ...

Where's the Iruka Army ?



They could pop down there and identify that sucker.

[Taro Toporific]

Japanese press lashes out at China over submarine intrusion
channelnewsasia.com : 13 November 2004 1326 hrs GMT---TOKYO : Japan's media has condemned the intrusion of a Chinese nuclear submarine into its waters with most newspapers saying Beijing should accept a demand from Tokyo to apologise over the incident.....
.....The Chinese diplomat told Machimura that Beijing was in the midst of its own investigation into the submarine incident and thus declined to accept a protest or make an apology.
The liberal {sic???} daily Mainichi Shimbun said Beijing should respond promptly to the apology demand.
"The fact is clear that (China) has entered our territorial waters," the Mainichi said in an editorial.
"China must immediately disclose the outcome of its investigation and come up with preventive measures... We demand China's honest response," it said.
The conservative daily Sankei Shimbun called China's behavior "unforgivable," also demanding a swift apology

[Taro Toporific]

China links sub probe, Japanese war shrine
Big News Network.com, Australia -13 Nov
... On Saturday, China's ambassador to Japan, urged a calm approach to the incident and then added the Chinese people will be hurt if (Japan) tries to justify Class-A war criminals, who were symbols of (Japanese) militarism.
Wang Yi's remark was a dig at Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi's repeated visits to the war-related Yasukuni Shrine in Tokyo ...

[cstaylor]

Anyone have any idea how many nuclear submarines the People's Navy has?

[Taro Toporific]

Japanese FM says China has voiced regret for submarine intrusion
Channel News Asia, Singapore - Nov 16TOKYO : China has told Japan it regrets the intrusion of a submarine last week into Japanese waters, Japanese Foreign Minister Nobutaka Machimura said on Tuesday.
"It entered the area because of a technical error and the Chinese side said it was regretted," Machimura was quoted as saying by a foreign ministry official in Tokyo. ...

[kurohinge1]

China admits submarine intruded into Japanese waters

... [Foreign Minister Nobutaka] Machimura lodged a strong protest ... after concluding that the submarine was a nuclear-powered vessel belonging to the Chinese military.

The judgment was based partially on analysis of the sound of the submarine's propeller and the submarine's movements...

The person who worked that out must have a fun CD collection ...

[cstaylor]

kurohinge1, that's how they ID submarines, from the cavitation sound. Toshiba helped design some of the equipment used for American submarines, and they later sold that technology to the USSR.

[Taro Toporific]

Bonenkai
by Mike (in Tokyo) Rogers / Nov 18Oh no! Here it comes again: Bonenkai season in Japan!
You've heard wild, unsubstantiated, stories that people in Japan like to drink? Rumors that many Japanese get drunk daily? You've also heard sordid tales of drunk Japanese businessmen terrorizing the streets of Tokyo at night? "Tondemonai!" (Poppy-cock) I say! I deny that completely... I haven't had a drink for at least several hours now....more...

[kurohinge1]

... that's how they ID submarines, from the cavitation sound ...

...Ok, here's a sort-of inside source....

... The prevailing view on the incident is that the submarine was navigating waters on a shallow continental shelf, while avoiding sonobuoys maintained by the Maritime Self-Defense Force ...

Brilliant. Next April Fools' Day, let's load up the dingy with a few lagers and lager-loving FG's and head on out to Maritime Self-Defense Force Land, with our collection of Best of Submarine Sounds CD's which we can play loud through some marine speakers, near one of the sonobuoys.



I'm thinking we start with some sounds from Chinese "Song" class subs (excuse the pun), then move on to a few "Yaun" sub tracks (especially after some beers in the sun), throw in some weighty Russian "Kilo" class sub sounds and then confuse them thoroughly by finishing with a WWII German U-boat - around the time we do a U-turn and start heading back to shore, waving enthusiastically to the swarms of Japanese PC3 aircraft frantically looking for the Chinese-Russian-German invasion armada.



All aboard !

[Taro Toporific]

North Korea claims it has captured unmanned US submersible
AP, Aug 7
SEOUL, South Korea North Korea is claiming its captured an unmanned U-S submersible and has put it on display in Pyongyang (pyuhng-yahng).
A pro-North Korean newspaper in Japan reports the small vessel was captured during a reconnaissance mission in waters off North Korea's eastern city of Hamhung.
On the newspaper's Web site (Choson Sinbo) is a picture purported to be of the black torpedo-shaped U-S vessel.....


"Unmanned reconnaissance sub of the U.S. captured in southern Hamgyong-Namdo Hamhung"

[Greji]

China links sub probe, Japanese war shrine
Big News Network.com, Australia -13 Nov
... On Saturday, China's ambassador to Japan, urged a calm approach to the incident and then added the Chinese people will be hurt if (Japan) tries to justify Class-A war criminals, who were symbols of (Japanese) militarism.
Wang Yi's remark was a dig at Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi's repeated visits to the war-related Yasukuni Shrine in Tokyo ...

Then they won't be alarmed when the JNSDF drops several hundred depth charges on the next submarine that they send in to Japanese waters by stealth?

Who the fuck do the Chinese think is provoking who here? Thanks to the thinking and work of the media, they feel they can do anything in Japanese areas they want and justify it claiming foul because of the Yasukuni visits. What's worse is that they are not alone in this thinking!