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[vir-jin]

some weeks ago I joined the bach cantata club at geidai. I am actually not there to sing but to make them sing in german .
we already had the first concert where I was able to expirience the spirit of the group supported by YAHOO!groups.jp. It was amazing. Not only the organization that was just perfect, no, I was informed about every step of all processes. Every second a new email on my keitai. And it doesn't stop, even if the concert is over. I am supposed to be there at every meeting, twice or three times a week. Somehow it feels very comfortable to get those mails even if nobody talks to me yet. Did you ever enter some group like that being totally observed and threatened to do things somebody told you to do? In this case it is really amazing. I try just to bow like bamboo and don't let them catch me! This is organized group pressure!

[Taro Toporific]

some weeks ago I joined the bach cantata club at geidai...Every second a new email on my keitai. And it doesn't stop, even if the concert is over. I am supposed to be there at every meeting, twice or three times a week... I try just to bow like bamboo and don't let them catch me! This is organized group pressure!

Welcome to The-Land-that-Can-Suck-the-Fun-Out-of-EVERYTHING, Japan.

Hint: The better your Japanese gets, the more "fun" you can have. Study hard.

[vir-jin]

Welcome to The-Land-that-Can-Suck-the-Fun-Out-of-EVERYTHING, Japan.

Hint: The better your Japanese gets, the more "fun" you can have. Study hard.[/quote]

Of course you're right Taro. When I remember my poor Japanese 2 years ago when I arrived, I am really in a much better position now.

I decided to fight them with their own weapons. I make them speak perfect german, let them understand the words and actually did a slide show with middleaged paintings from hell and fighting angels. I fighted down their cute images, plastered the slide show with dead christ images, crying women and gave them so much information that they will have to think a lot about what they are doing. What makes especially fun is that I am not christian at all, my grandfather grew up in China and they are all buddhists. So I am not on a mission for christianity but the truth . kamisama prevents me from getting too much involved in european culture.
Now I have time to figure out how to really shock them and make the coming concert a success. any suggestions?

They have to open their horizon, thats fun for me and good for them.
issyoukenmei, subete ageru tsumori de ganbarima-su!

[Charles]

What makes especially fun is that I am not christian at all, my grandfather grew up in China and they are all buddhists.

Now you can REALLY mess with their minds!

In Japan, people rarely change religions, if you ask them, they will almost always tell you they are the same religion as their parents. But in the West, many people reject their parents' religion, and pick their own religion. Most Japanese people cannot comprehend that someone could pick their own religion, they believe you are born into a religion. They just don't understand this Western "religious freedom" thing, although they know it exists. Of course I am simplifying and making some generalizations here.

But now you get to really freak them out. You can tell them you're a buddhist just like your grandfather and your parents. They won't know what to think!

[vir-jin]

That's it! That's punk! Thank you Charles, I will try that in this slide show. 100 people attending and being shocked by my presentation, what a happening. I already added some export lacquer altars the Japanese produced for the Spanish and Portugese in the 15th, 16th century. 100% nihonsei and delicately decorated with gold silver and shell inlay on black.
What fun will it be to mention that Japan produced enormous sums of export lacquer wares with Christian design before it began to kill christians in enourmous sums. The history is like the bible, violent and keeps the aggressions running as well as it causes hope. I am safe on the hope side! And I am really pleased that they sing this christian stuff! Even if they don't understand it. I like the Japanese surface punk. It's so oshyare!

I summarize:

1st CONFUSING THEM
2nd SETTING A STATEMENT...
3rd (...that will) MAKE THEM THINK
4th TAKE SOME TIME TO LET THEM DECIDE MY CASE IN A GROUP WHILE LETTING THEM BELIEVE THEY DECIDED THE CASE
5th BROADEN THEIR HORIZON IN AN AFTERSHOCK

I will open a new folder for this project, titeled' communicationquake'. well, maybe I choose something else. sounds like communication cake.

charles, cheers to you in the name of apocalypse and anarchy! You are my favourite supporter on the mission!
I'll get this done now!

[Charles]

I already added some export lacquer altars the Japanese produced for the Spanish and Portugese in the 15th, 16th century. 100% nihonsei and delicately decorated with gold silver and shell inlay on black.
What fun will it be to mention that Japan produced enormous sums of export lacquer wares with Christian design before it began to kill christians in enourmous sums.

It's funny you mention those lacquerware altars, I remember being impressed by one of those altar sets when I saw it, years ago, in Geijutsu Shincho magazine. And I was particularly amazed when I visited Ueno Park in May and went to the the Tokyo National Museum, and the same altar set was on display! There was a whole display of odd cultural clashes, but since the museum rotates displays frequently, they are probably not on display any more.
Sometimes I think Tokugawa had the right idea, just kill all the christians and let their god sort them out. It is all so logical, christianity is a death cult focused around crucifixion, wouldn't you be doing them a favor by crucifying them and helping them emulate their god?

[vir-jin]

I know the one you mean. Last year in december happened to be a conference, held by the National Museum and the Tokyo National Research Institute of Cultural Property( located behind the museums garden), on exactly that topic. Exported lacquer works. The one you saw is from Momoyama Period. In Edo period only the East Indian Company and therefore the Dutch were able to trade with them on Deshima, the artificial iland at Nagasaki. the design changes, and they use coloured shell pieces for inlay. The design is opulent and very ugly. I wonder where they imported all the shells. There is barely lacquer left between all that rainbow shiny glamour.

Did you ever see one of those execution stones at TNM? They chiseled a cross in one stone and everybody who didn't step on the stone while walking over it was mentioned being christian and killed. Human being, the most fascinating and various research topic that exists. I can connect that directly to the Nazi regimes methods.

I have to be very careful how to crucify them as a minority. Maybe I should just support and admire seppuku as the highest philosophical form of freedom. And that is very close to Jesus christ. Absolutely! Jesus christ sort of died by seppuku. I think they will understand that. Am I still logic?

[Charles]

You always make me jealous, vir-jin, I see something in an art magazine, and you get to see it in a seminar at the TNM. And having worked in museums, I learned that all the really interesting stuff is hidden in the storage rooms, only accessible to researchers.

I don't know about seppuku, it is a rather lame form of martyrdom when you do it to yourself. I think the greatest irony of the 20th century is the dropping of the bomb on Nagasaki, it is not well known that the bomb missed the target, falling over a ridge of mountains onto a village populated mostly by exiled Japanese christians. WWII ended by the US killing almost all the remaining Japanese christians. Tokugawa never imagined killing so many christians in one blow.

[vir-jin]

You always make me jealous, vir-jin, I see something in an art magazine, and you get to see it in a seminar at the TNM.

Maybe, but I have to deal with many dissatisfying stuff too. Sometimes I feel like the prisoner of my life. And sometimes like the king of the world.
Why don't you join the club of elitism, where self-importance is the only thing you have to keep to stay alive. This university is pompous!

killing almost all the remaining Japanese christians. Tokugawa never imagined killing so many christians in one blow.

They did a good job, don't you think? They could have dropped it over geidai, too. todai would have been destroyed at the same time, together with all resources of elitism :P

[Pencilslave]

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Sometimes I think Tokugawa had the right idea, just kill all the christians and let their god sort them out. It is all so logical, christianity is a death cult focused around crucifixion, wouldn't you be doing them a favor by crucifying them and helping them emulate their god?

Death cult? Hmm lesse, heal the sick, feed the hungry, help the poor and downtrodden. Yea, sounds like a deathcult to me.(Insert GIGANTIC DOSE OF SARCASM). Charles, you said in the past you're a Buddhist. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the last I've heard, one of the basic beliefs of all sects of Buddhism is a respect for all life.

[kotatsuneko]

hey vir-gin, whats your site's address? (and if no site, why not?! )

personally i`m looking forward to a vir-gin and evil pongi subversion vid for chrimbo

[vir-jin]

hey vir-gin, whats your site's address? (and if no site, why not?! )

personally i`m looking forward to a vir-gin and evil pongi subversion vid for chrimbo

No site adress, I am a purist. I am my own promotion. with every word you will be long term influenced as a matter of fact

I am also looking forward to a evil pongi subversion, I already got some ideas to present you happy pre-x-mas life in Tokyo. Every friday, when I watch the spectacle of blue tent population that has to sing in ueno park to get some food I feel so guilty!the donator- that bloody christian church is the most self-righteous organization on this planet.