Selfish bastards

[AssKissinger]

Caustic, not giving up your seat to old folks is fucking weak. Booooo hisssss

[cstaylor]

Oh, they're always glad to hear about other ways, as long as it has nothing to do with them, which means they don't have to do anything about it.

Ain't that the truth. Why waste the oxygen?

[cstaylor]

Caustic, not giving up your seat to old folks is fucking weak. Booooo hisssss

Depends on what we mean by "old". If Gramps isn't wearing a suit or carrying a briefcase, he can have my seat. If Grams is hunched over like an ebi, she can have my seat.

[vir-jin]

Do you watch as a mother struggles up a flight of stairs with a pram and all her baggage?

Yes. Having children was her choice. Don't wanna do the work? Don't have kids.

You're such an angel! Thank you so much for taking that luggage and even my children down for me!

Do you stand up for the old man on the train?

No. I'm not sitting in the senior seats, so he can go bug the people who are.

Really so smart of you to let this ojiichan sit here! You can feel my tits far better from here.

Do you just step over the person who has fallen in the street?

Depends - did they fall in a really funny way?

I'd drag you along

[Mels]

Do you watch as a mother struggles up a flight of stairs with a pram and all her baggage?

Yes. Having children was her choice. Don't wanna do the work? Don't have kids.

Do you stand up for the old man on the train?

No. I'm not sitting in the senior seats, so he can go bug the people who are.

Do you just step over the person who has fallen in the street?

Depends - did they fall in a really funny way?

Caustic---The great thing about life is: we have cycles........where we start we eventually end....during this cycle, the old adages:
what goes around comes around,
Ignorance is bliss ,
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink ,
What a man laughs at reveals his character,
You have only failed when you fail to try,
We boil at different degrees

And my fave: I agree to DISAGREE with you

Peace Out

[vir-jin]

This could happen to everybody.

Fucking cool as hell

it's extreme free

http://masamania.com/archives/2005/02/jap_is_fucking.html

[sirwanksalot]

Do you watch as a mother struggles up a flight of stairs with a pram and all her baggage?

Yes. Having children was her choice. Don't wanna do the work? Don't have kids.

Do you stand up for the old man on the train?

No. I'm not sitting in the senior seats, so he can go bug the people who are.

Do you just step over the person who has fallen in the street?

Depends - did they fall in a really funny way?

Welcome to Japan. Korea has taught you well.

[This is a pen]

It's actually snowing down in Shonen and I just got off the train and waited in line for a taxi because I was out debriefing (read drinking) with a cool Japanese lady...what astounds me is that none of the bastards in front of me in the taxi line offered me the chance to get a taxi first - I was the last one left at a deserted station in the pelting snow waiting!

Chivalry is dead.

Yes!, this is very sad. Someone probably should have let you cut,
But it's also VERY sad that you expected it, and now you are calling them bastards for not offering.

Have you ever offered to a Man the same age as you to cut in the taxi line? (I am sure the answer is NO, so....... would it be OK if he was now on the message boards calling you a Bitch for not doing so?)

(Before you flame me, I am not calling YOU a Bitch, I am meaning to be much more general than that.)

I have been in similar situations (In a hurry to get home), And I have Just asked to share a taxi With someone who is headed in the same general direction, (They are normally happy to save a few Yen on splitting the Taxi Fare and they get a quick english Lesson out of it) and more often than not someone will either share or, in your case, they probably would have took notice and offered for you to bump up the line.

[Mels]

It's actually snowing down in Shonen and I just got off the train and waited in line for a taxi because I was out debriefing (read drinking) with a cool Japanese lady...what astounds me is that none of the bastards in front of me in the taxi line offered me the chance to get a taxi first - I was the last one left at a deserted station in the pelting snow waiting!

Chivalry is dead.

Yes!, this is very sad. Someone probably should have let you cut,
But it's also VERY sad that you expected it, and now you are calling them bastards for not offering.

Have you ever offered to a Man the same age as you to cut in the taxi line? (I am sure the answer is NO, so....... would it be OK if he was now on the message boards calling you a Bitch for not doing so?)

(Before you flame me, I am not calling YOU a Bitch, I am meaning to be much more general than that.)

I have been in similar situations (In a hurry to get home), And I have Just asked to share a taxi With someone who is headed in the same general direction, (They are normally happy to save a few Yen on splitting the Taxi Fare and they get a quick english Lesson out of it) and more often than not someone will either share or, in your case, they probably would have took notice and offered for you to bump up the line.

Typical, missing the whole point. I agree to disagree with you too. Sad

[GargoyleTS]

Hmmm, Japan never really had "chivalry" as such, did it? I thought women and children were historically regarded as property and not people. And the structured hierachical treatment of other males means the lowest rank/whatever male performs "chivalric" duties for all the other males in his group, and only if a female or child isn't around to perform said duties.

This is literally a simple culture-clash issue and a honestly a minor rant about something she found annoying. Jumping her for ranting to others who share her cultural expectations is out of line, she was just looking for a little sympathy for a bad experience. While many of you have adjusted to life in Japan, I am certain you occasionally have a "WTF???" moment that leaves you wondering about the basic humanity of the Japanese...and that's all this was. A little "WTF???" moment at a train station at 1 am.

My take: Yeah, it sucks that no one offered to at least inquire where you were headed and split fare with you...too used to just spending money I guess! Luis-Vitton for a girlfriend??? Not on my watch sister....

[vir-jin]

It's actually snowing down in Shonen and I just got off the train and waited in line for a taxi because I was out debriefing (read drinking) with a cool Japanese lady...what astounds me is that none of the bastards in front of me in the taxi line offered me the chance to get a taxi first - I was the last one left at a deserted station in the pelting snow waiting!

Chivalry is dead.

Yes!, this is very sad. Someone probably should have let you cut,
But it's also VERY sad that you expected it, and now you are calling them bastards for not offering.

Have you ever offered to a Man the same age as you to cut in the taxi line? (I am sure the answer is NO, so....... would it be OK if he was now on the message boards calling you a Bitch for not doing so?)

(Before you flame me, I am not calling YOU a Bitch, I am meaning to be much more general than that.)

I have been in similar situations (In a hurry to get home), And I have Just asked to share a taxi With someone who is headed in the same general direction, (They are normally happy to save a few Yen on splitting the Taxi Fare and they get a quick english Lesson out of it) and more often than not someone will either share or, in your case, they probably would have took notice and offered for you to bump up the line.

This is an ink eraser.
Sharing: I don't get into a car with a MALE japanese I don't know. Any experience in sexual harassment, This is a pen? If not, you will probably gather it one day . and please don't tell me the "don't wear a mini skirt" story.

[This is a pen]

Sharing: I don't get into a car with a MALE japanese I don't know. Any experience in sexual harassment, This is a pen? If not, you will probably gather it one day . and please don't tell me the "don't wear a mini skirt" story.

Just sit in the front seat.

[vir-jin]

Sharing: I don't get into a car with a MALE japanese I don't know. Any experience in sexual harassment, This is a pen? If not, you will probably gather it one day . and please don't tell me the "don't wear a mini skirt" story.

Just sit in the front seat.

I don't get into a car with a MALE japanese I don't know.

[This is a pen]

Sharing: I don't get into a car with a MALE japanese I don't know. Any experience in sexual harassment, This is a pen? If not, you will probably gather it one day . and please don't tell me the "don't wear a mini skirt" story.

Just sit in the front seat.

I don't get into a car with a MALE japanese I don't know.

OK! Then don't, I was just offering some alternatives to standing in the taxi line all night in the cold.

[Mels]

Sharing: I don't get into a car with a MALE japanese I don't know. Any experience in sexual harassment, This is a pen? If not, you will probably gather it one day . and please don't tell me the "don't wear a mini skirt" story.

Just sit in the front seat.

I don't get into a car with a MALE japanese I don't know.

OK! Then don't, I was just offering some alternatives to standing in the taxi line all night in the cold.

You still dont get it. The alternative you offered is not an alternative! Maybe for you, if you are a male. Making that assumption, understand you never had to feel intimidated getting a car with a woman..there is a big difference for a female to get in a car with another male. Think smarter than that. Most woman have been taught this at a young age because of the possibility of something happening. Put your FEET in a womans shoes...perhaps walking a mile may help with understanding..

[This is a pen]

Sharing: I don't get into a car with a MALE japanese I don't know. Any experience in sexual harassment, This is a pen? If not, you will probably gather it one day . and please don't tell me the "don't wear a mini skirt" story.

Just sit in the front seat.

I don't get into a car with a MALE japanese I don't know.

OK! Then don't, I was just offering some alternatives to standing in the taxi line all night in the cold.

You still dont get it. The alternative you offered is not an alternative! Maybe for you, if you are a male. Making that assumption, understand you never had to feel intimidated getting a car with a woman..there is a big difference for a female to get in a car with another male. Think smarter than that. Most woman have been taught this at a young age because of the possibility of something happening. Put your FEET in a womans shoes...perhaps walking a mile may help with understanding..

O.K. well then, Stand in Line and wait for your taxi.

Or.... Find another women in line and share a ride, or just ask to cut.
Or Walk, Ride a Bicycle, have a friend pick you up.

[Mels]

O.K. well then, Stand in Line and wait for your taxi.

Or.... Find another women in line and share a ride, or just ask to cut.
Or Walk, Ride a Bicycle, have a friend pick you up.

naw, no cutting....if there were other women or men in line, that would be cool. Walking.... would pose the same safety problem. easy to ride a bike, but I dont think that would be possible.....freinds, hmmm. That may be good unless it is too late and they are far away.

I think if there were other people in line and she wasnt the last person to get a taxi, she would not have felt unsafe.

But, hey, I give you great credit for the ideas OK, I am done, you have a great weekend..be safe and have fun.

[gomichild]

Maybe an illustrative picture would help. Taken last night at the deserted station.

[Ol Dirty Gaijin]

and I bet the phone number on the sign for the cab company was twenty years old and wrong.

[This is a pen]

http://www.coping.org/growth/accept.htm

[FG Lurker]

http://www.coping.org/growth/accept.htm

[American Oyaji]

Maybe an illustrative picture would help. Taken last night at the deserted station.

Heck. I'm 6'10" 290lbs and I wouldn't want to stand there at night.

[omae mona]

OMG. I missed this exciting thread until now. I wanted to offer my opinion on this sensitive topic, since half of you are totally, utterly wrong and need a good slap in the face. However, I decided instead I'll just use this space to increase my post count, since I heard you get a free set of FG luggage tags at 350 posts.

[Big Booger]

OMG. I missed this exciting thread until now. I wanted to offer my opinion on this sensitive topic, since half of you are totally, utterly wrong and need a good slap in the face. However, I decided instead I'll just use this space to increase my post count, since I heard you get a free set of FG luggage tags at 350 posts.

It's actually FG branded yunomi You get a set of 4.

[cstaylor]

Six pages and no one has asked how GC got home?

Gomichild - how did you get home?

[NeoNecroNomiCron]

Six pages and no one has asked how GC got home?

Gomichild - how did you get home?

Hitchhiked.

Gomi tell them about the fish net stockings!

[tatsujin]

Slight omoidashite moment from me: When I first arrived in Japan I got on a series of confusing trains from Nagoya to a little sleepy town called Minamisenju, where I was due to stay for the month's holiday.

Standing outside the station at about 12.30 am, that was the roughly the scene that greeted me - a rainy unwelcoming empty street, similar to the scene in the picture.

I had no idea where my hotel was and couldn't find any indication of of which direction to go. Still, as I sat on my suitcase underneath a shop front trying to hail a taxi, I thought, Fuck, I'm finally in Japan!

Anyway, ahem, apologies for the sidenote...

[gomichild]

Six pages and no one has asked how GC got home?

Gomichild - how did you get home?

After waiting and waiting and getting more freaked out and trying to think of plans, a lone taxi cruised by and thankfully stopped.

[vir-jin]

Slight omoidashite moment from me: When I first arrived in Japan I got on a series of confusing trains from Nagoya to a little sleepy town called Minamisenju, where I was due to stay for the month's holiday.

Standing outside the station at about 12.30 am, that was the roughly the scene that greeted me - a rainy unwelcoming empty street, similar to the scene in the picture.

I had no idea where my hotel was and couldn't find any indication of of which direction to go. Still, as I sat on my suitcase underneath a shop front trying to hail a taxi, I thought, Fuck, I'm finally in Japan!

Anyway, ahem, apologies for the sidenote...

stayed in minamisenju for two weeks when moving to tokyo from fukuoka. I am not easily scared but I learned very fast that this area is
1)yakuza country
2)full of scary drunken guys at day and night time (urinating everywhere )
3)a place where garbage burns in the streets ( quite rare in Japan)
never seen so many scary people in one place.

[katakori]

since half of you are totally, utterly wrong and need a good slap in the face

you don't say which half?

i have to say that i would be very scared if i had to wait at this station (seeing the photo), but it would be of japanese ghosts rather than people. so that doesn't count, although it would still be similar when you really think about it.

the problem with this thread is that there are many issues in it, and therefore it is pretty much impossible to agree or disagree with all points at once honestly.

the most important part that is not emphasised enough i think, even after 6 pages, is that it is not the snow, and it is not the time wasted, it is that you were scared. and being scared is not something anyone can rationalize easily. it is not about chivalry or japanese men being bastard. it is about being in a place where men are not used to feel empathy for lonely women at night, and people mind their own business if it is not a metter that touches their "group", because there are just too many people to care about in the tokyo area if you want to stay sane...

my experience is that japanese people, and many people in general, are helpful if you open yourself honeslty to them. i am not talking about waiting for the last guy to be alone with you and telling him he's a selfish bastard but rather saying him you are scared to be left alone in there, and make sure other people in the line can hear it too. they might all think you're a chicken and a FG, but someone would probably make a gesture. again, i am not a woman, but i have been in really shitty and embarrassing situations before, in japan and elsewhere, and i found people who would go out of their way for no reason whatsoever because it felt like the right thing to do.

bottom line, is it scarier to get in a taxi with a stranger (but there is also a radio and a cab driver in it) or to stay alone in the dark and take your chances?

real bottom line, if you are aware that the station before that one has better light, and combini, more taxis, etc. why did you go to this one (i am not being a smart ass here, genuinely asking because it seems not logical...)?