Would you fight.....

[Taka-Okami]

I have always been interested in this question. Though it is more for the folks who have PR in Japan or are long termers. Qu: If god forbid Japan was ever attacked would you gaijin folks go out and put your life on the line to defend the Japanese nation? I know there is almost 0% chance, but as a hypothetical situation, what would you do?

[AssKissinger]

I'd not only fight. I'd win. I'd single-handedly Rambo the enemy into annihilation. Then I'd be a big hero and everyone would love me and I'd live in a big house with my own supersize onsen and sauna and I'd have a big harem of sexy Japanese teenage girls who aren't allowed to wear anything except orange bikinis (excuse me for a second, ahhh) ok. Then I'd unleash my super human warlord powers over the native population and I'd rule Japan with an iron fist. Girls would be sucking my dick!!! I'd be fucking their asses and playing with their titties and everything. Then I'd start a rock'n'roll band and put mindcontrolling subliminal messages in the music and take over the world and then the universe and I would not stop until God himself bowed down before me.

[FG Lurker]

I have always been interested in this question. Though it is more for the folks who have PR in Japan or are long termers. Qu: If god forbid Japan was ever attacked would you gaijin folks go out and put your life on the line to defend the Japanese nation? I know there is almost 0% chance, but as a hypothetical situation, what would you do?

With what? The most potent (modern) "weapon" an average person can buy in Japan is a fully automatic BB gun.

I think you'd see more gaijin willing to fight in Japan than you would Japanese living in (say) Canada if Canada was attacked... I can already imagine the mad rush to the airport that would ensue.

[Taka-Okami]

I'd say AssKissinger would be one of the first to lose his genitals to a stray chinese bullet. FGlurker has a point that weapons have been taken off the population. But who knows what plans the Japanese army have if Japan was really in the shit. They probably have tonnes of weapon stashed under mount Fujii or somthing.

[AssKissinger]

I'd say AssKissinger would be one of the first to lose his genitals to a stray chinese bullet

What the fuck are you talkin' 'bout, Willis?

[American Oyaji]

Simple answer...

I'd fight for Japan sooner than I would fight for the U.S.

[AssKissinger]

Simple answer...

I'd fight for Japan sooner than I would fight for the U.S.

Why's that asshole?

[Samurai_Jerk]

Simple answer...

I'd fight for Japan sooner than I would fight for the U.S.

Why's that asshole?

Yeah, why is that?

I guess whether or not I'd fight depends on who attacked and why. If it was Korea I'd fucking gladly ride an A-bomb Slim Pickens style right into the heart of Seoul. And I'd have a big hard on the whole way down.

[Charles]

If god forbid Japan was ever attacked would you gaijin folks go out and put your life on the line to defend the Japanese nation?

As an interesting side point, if an American Citizen voluntarily fights on behalf of another nation, that means automatic revocation of US Citizenship. There were a few legal cases I read about where people's citizenship was revoked during WWII and only reinstated after it was proven they were involuntarily drafted and forced to fight under penalty of death for desertion.

[Steve Bildermann]

As an interesting side point, if an American Citizen voluntarily fights on behalf of another nation, that means automatic revocation of US Citizenship.

Well, to be more clear. That is only true if the citizen fights for the other nation against the US.

Fighting for another nation against a third party has no effect upon citizenship.

The Spanish Civil war springs to mind as does the many US and UK para military units now training and fighting in Africa (dang where is my monthly copy of 'solider of fortune' just when I need it)

and there's always....

Life in the French Foreign Legion: How To Join and What To Expect When You Get There

[Charles]

As an interesting side point, if an American Citizen voluntarily fights on behalf of another nation, that means automatic revocation of US Citizenship.

Well, to be more clear. That is only true if the citizen fights for the other nation against the US.

And I presume their allies, so a US citizen Japanese soldier draftee who fought in China during WWII would be stripped of citizenship. Or maybe it's just if the nation as a whole is at war with the US. It's an interesting issue, I'll have to look into it in my Copious Spare Time (tm).

I vaguely recall reading about some Nisei who were in Japan and drafted when the war broke out, and regained their US citizenship after lengthy legal battles. But I can't recall the specifics, except that it was a really interesting story.

Fighting for another nation against a third party has no effect upon citizenship.

The Spanish Civil war springs to mind as does the many US and UK para military units now training and fighting in Africa (dang where is my monthly copy of 'solider of fortune' just when I need it)

and there's always....

Life in the French Foreign Legion: How To Join and What To Expect When You Get There

I'd sign up today if they promised to go to war against Australia.

[GuyJean]

I'd fight for Japan sooner than I would fight for the U.S.

Well, Japan is essentially America's Asian ball-tickler, so you'd probably end up fighting for a Japan that's fighting for the US..

For me, who I choose to fight for depends on what and why we're fighting; Halliburton profit doesn't inspire my kamikaze spirit much. Invasion of territory and family does..

GJ

[AssKissinger]

GuyJean, if I shoved your head up your ass would you fight for air?

[cstaylor]

And here I thought this was going to be, "If Japan was invaded, would you fight against forced incarceration by the xenophobic Japanese government?"

[GuyJean]

GuyJean, if I shoved your head up your ass would you fight for air?

No. As I mentioned, I would never let you touch my head.. or my ass. (invasion of territory)

GJ

[Kanchou]

I think I'd fight against whoever decides to shoot at me...

Guess I should be glad that I already have web gear and camo too. Go survival game :P

But then again I'm leavin in 3 months anyway. hehe.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Even if you fight against the US it's not automatic. There is a legal process that the government has to go through to revoke your citizenship. Remember Taliban Johnny Walker? But, it is possible to lose your citizenship for fighting in a foreign army.

[Kuang_Grade]

It's not quite automatic anymore, but the US State Deptartment doesn't view it as a good thing. But as long as you don't fight the US or become an officer in any military (regardless of being a US friend or foe) AND pull Bobby Fisher like antics, you'll probably be OK.

http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_780.html

Although a person's enlistment in the armed forces of a foreign country may not constitute a violation of U.S. law, it could subject him or her to Section 349(a)(3) of the Immigration and Nationality Act [8 U.S.C. 1481(a)(3)] which provides for loss of U.S. nationality if an American voluntarily and with the intention of relinquishing U.S. citizenship enters or serves in foreign armed forces engaged in hostilities against the United States or serves in the armed forces of any foreign country as a commissioned or non-commissioned officer.

Loss of U.S. nationality was almost immediate consequences of foreign military service and the other acts listed in Section 349(a) until 1967 when the Supreme Court handed down its decision in Afroyim v. Rusk , 387 U.S. 253. In that decision, the court declared unconstitutional the provisions of Section 349(a) which provided for loss of nationality by voting in a foreign election. In so doing, the Supreme Court indicated foreign election. In so doing, the Supreme Court indicated that a U.S. citizen "has a constitutional right to remain a citizen... unless he voluntarily relinquishes that citizenship."

Further confirmation of the necessity to establish the citizen's intent to relinquish nationality before expatriation will result came in the opinion in Vance v. Terrazas , 444 U.S. 252 (1980). The Court stated that "expatriation depends on the will of the citizen rather than on the will of Congress and its assessment of his conduct." The Court also indicated that a person's intention to relinquish U.S. citizenship may be shown by statements or actions.

[tonikoro]

Let me put it this way,
If say North Korea pulled a "Red Dawn" on us, or any other hostile force in the region decided to invade, I think I would want to protect that which is most important and evident. My Family, and the Home/life that I've built. Wether Japan likes it or not, I have made a home here, with a Japanese family, to which I have a commitment to protect and provide for. It doesn't seem as easy to just puss out and bail. So yes, I would try, at least attempt to join the Jietai. The first and larger question is if the Jietai would have or take in a Foreign enlistee.

If freedom, or the pursuit of happiness were at the hands of an insurgency, what could be more Amercan than fighting to preserve what our Country holds most dear?

- I should also wonder, if for example a local insurgency were to take place, what would they do to foreigners or anyone aligned to foreign parties against them here in japan?

[Taka-Okami]

Yeah the Japanese Gov would probably use make a Gaijin Unit and use you as cannon fodder . Still if I had a family etc in Japan I'd fight for sure, but not as canon fodder. Maybe you could make a Gaijin only gorilla unit and kick some serious ass!

[AssKissinger]

If there was a genuine movement to catch and kill bin Laden I'd sign up for that. But there isn't so I won't.

I'll fight you though, Taka. Wanna throw?

[Taka-Okami]

Bring it on!

[AssKissinger]

Bring it on!

Wait just a minute asshole. How tall are you? How much do you weigh? How old are you? How much can you bench? Do you know how to kung-fu or anything like that? Have you ever been in a fight before? Answer these questions first. I might not be able to make it.

[tonikoro]

Yeah the Japanese Gov would probably use make a Gaijin Unit and use you as cannon fodder . Still if I had a family etc in Japan I'd fight for sure, but not as canon fodder. Maybe you could make a Gaijin only gorilla unit and kick some serious ass!

Now there is a thought, making homemade plastique, bombs from propane tanks, and weapons out of Kitchen "Houcho" Knives. -Get Mediaeval on their asses with some dogs and a pair of pliers..yeah, that'll demoralize'em

[Steve Bildermann]

Or maybe it's just if the nation as a whole is at war with the US. It's an interesting issue,

What's more interesting is that ever since WWII the US has never actually declared itself to be 'at war'

Everything else since has been described with various euphemisms.

The Korean war was a 'police action', the Vietnam war was a 'advisory conflict', Gulf War 1 was a 'collaborative intervention' and the current 'thing' in Iraq is a pre-emptive action.

All these taken from the official record of the house budget committee.

We'll ignore the really ridiculous stuff like Grenada.

[GuyJean]

Do you know how to kung-fu or anything like that?

GJ

[devicenull]

I'm a Tommy Turncoat. If I am in China and shit breaks out where I am stuck, I will most likely support them. If I am stuck in Japan long term, yea, probably support them if they let me. I switch sides the instant my own survival goes on the line if I am defending something I don't have a vested interest/stake in.

[American Oyaji]

As for me,

I LOVE Japan. I can't say that about the U.S.

I'd fight against the U.S. if I thought it was in the wrong. You gotta remember, I'm black and I have a different viewpoint on the United States.
There aren't many "black patriots" in the U.S.

The only country I wouldn't fight against would be Israel.

I'd face summary execution before I'd go against Israel.

[GuyJean]

I'd face summary execution before I'd go against Israel.

Because you're Christian?

GJ

[cstaylor]

I LOVE Japan.

I'd face summary execution before I'd go against Israel.

Note where he's living.