Bann it damn it.

[Maths Dude]

Seeing Im in the mood ill vent.

I'm fuckin sick of profitable companies just sacking workers at will. I think I read some bank made billions in profits and then sacked 5,000 workers WTF? That kind of thing should be ilegal end of story!

[FG Lurker]

Seeing Im in the mood ill vent.

I'm fuckin sick of profitable companies just sacking workers at will. I think I read some bank made billions in profits and then sacked 5,000 workers WTF? That kind of thing should be ilegal end of story!

Why?

While on some levels I do see what you mean, why should a company be forced to keep employees that they obviously don't need just because the company is making money?

[AssKissinger]

I think everyone should have to suck my dick, just once, whether they are making money or not. Especially you two fucking cunts.

[FG Lurker]

I think everyone should have to suck my dick, just once, whether they are making money or not. Especially you two fucking cunts.

Drunk again AK? Or should that be still?

[Maths Dude]

They should be made to keep staff if they can obviously afford it. I think its still different in Japan, but here in Oz not many give 2 shits about their company. I personally believe that if the comapny takes care of its people it works in reverse.

But in an atmosphere like this, Im just gonna use the company I work for like a cheap whore. Gonna get my cash and exp and move to a better paying job. Thats the only way to play the game, they gonna sack you any, eventually.

[Maths Dude]

AK just wants a change from making love to his right hand, thats all.

[FG Lurker]

They should be made to keep staff if they can obviously afford it. I think its still different in Japan, but here in Oz not many give 2 shits about their company. I personally believe that if the comapny takes care of its people it works in reverse.

It's changed here a lot too, but it isn't quite the same as other "developed" countries -- yet. I don't think that companies should be made to keep workers they don't need. If that was the case then people would lose the motivation to work. It'd be corporate welfare.

But in an atmosphere like this, Im just gonna use the company I work for like a cheap whore. Gonna get my cash and exp and move to a better paying job. Thats the only way to play the game, they gonna sack you any, eventually.

The only way to play the game is to use your income to eventually get you out of having to work. Personally I aim to retire within 10 years -- I'm 33 now.

[FG Lurker]

AK just wants a change from making love to his right hand, thats all.

You'd think (especially living in Japan) he could find someone better to suck his dick than one of us.... Heh, maybe women aren't what turns him on anymore.

[Marked Trail]

...sick of profitable companies just sacking workers at will. I think I read some bank made billions in profits and then sacked 5,000 workers WTF? That kind of thing should be ilegal end of story!

Yes! Companies should be allowed to drag slacking employees like me out into the street and shoot them as an example.
At my former Japanese office, only 11 persons were actually doing work and the remaining 600 were doing work about doing work that never existed and would never would exist.

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I'm fuckin sick of profitable companies just sacking workers at will. I think I read some bank made billions in profits and then sacked 5,000 workers WTF? That kind of thing should be ilegal end of story!

That's One of the Dumbest thing I have Ever Heard.

If it's a private company, then they should be able to Hire and Fire whoever they want (as long as they are not breaking any laws i.e. discrimination, Child Labor, illegal workers etc.)

The company should be able to decide what they do with their profits and what direction to take the company.

M.D. Do you think companies should wait until they lose money to streamline operations?

[Maths Dude]

Retiring at 43 would be good as long as you dont get bored. I'd just get bored if I retired, so I aint ever gonna retire. I guess the important thing is to do work you enjoy, but then that really wouldnt be 'work' would it?

[AssKissinger]

Suck my dick.

[FG Lurker]

Retiring at 43 would be good as long as you dont get bored. I'd just get bored if I retired, so I aint ever gonna retire. I guess the important thing is to do work you enjoy, but then that really wouldnt be 'work' would it?

I'll have plenty to keep me busy I'm sure... I just don't want to "have" to go to work anymore.

(I already enjoy my job -- I just want more time to do other things.)

[This is a pen]

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[tetsujin gaijin]

I'm fuckin sick of profitable companies just sacking workers at will. I think I read some bank made billions in profits and then sacked 5,000 workers WTF? That kind of thing should be ilegal end of story!

Hey, news flash dude, it's the job of companies to make profits. That's what they do. It's not a charity. If they feel they can do with fewer workers then they can lay people off. If that is a bad decision it will cut into their bottom line and they'll hire people back.

There should be no laws on how much money a company should make or whom they can fire/lay off (for non discriminatory reasons). I'm a small business owner and there is no way I'm going to let someone tell me how much money I can make.

I think there is a word for what Math Dudes wants. It is called communism.

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[Andocrates]

That companies owe something to their employees is not a new idea, it's called civilization. Most companies are not owned by a Mr. Burns type, they are often public entreaties who depend on bank-loans, government assistance etc to survive. However, mathis dude - that's how the other half of lawyers live suing companies over unfair sackings so don't worry too much.

[AssKissinger]

First off blow me.

Second a profitable company should only be able to reduce labor forces by attrition not layoffs. A company has a responsibility to a person after they hire her or him on. It's easy for a young person without kids to say the company has the right blah blah blah but an old dude with a family needs some security for fuck's sake, have some humanity people.

PS Eat shit.

[Maths Dude]

I think companies should make some profits within reason. But if a company makes 2 or 3 billion in profits they have no right to just fire workers at will. Even worse is big business has government by the balls. In Australia the government is in the process of destroying unions at the behest of big business. Big business is like a cancer that needs to devour other businiesses in order to keep growing. If a limit was set on how large a business can grow, unemployment would be solved over night. One dude making billions is just not right.

[FG Lurker]

I think companies should make some profits within reason. But if a company makes 2 or 3 billion in profits they have no right to just fire workers at will.

It's called capitalism and although not perfect it certainly works better than the alternatives. If you do not like it then I suggest planning ways to get yourself out of the need to work.

If a limit was set on how large a business can grow, unemployment would be solved over night.

If limits were set then companies would simply create more companies to get around the rules. You can't try to control this type of thing and still have a capitalist economy! Do you really think that a communist economy (which is what you propose, really) would be better than a capitalist one?

One dude making billions is just not right.

Why is this not right? Why should artificial limits be set on people who are smart enough to make things work for them?

[kamome]

GM is firing 25,000 workers by 2008, and that's on top of the 30,000 workers they fired over the last five years. Yes, they aren't doing too well in the auto market, but that's a HUGE number of people to lose their jobs. So I sort of sympathize with Maths Dude and AK. Companies should be held accountable for laying off so many workers while the members of the board rake in huge salaries, stock options, and have a nice golden parachute for when they retire.

[GomiGirl]

GM is firing 25,000 workers by 2008, and that's on top of the 30,000 workers they fired over the last five years. Yes, they aren't doing too well in the auto market, but that's a HUGE number of people to lose their jobs. So I sort of sympathize with Maths Dude and AK. Companies should be held accountable for laying off so many workers while the members of the board rake in huge salaries, stock options, and have a nice golden parachute for when they retire.

Check GM share price...

Remember that a company - especially a public company - is only beholden to the shareholders - not the employees. Not just the big salaries and golden parachutes. Remember that the shareholders can sack the executives....

But it goes both ways too... an employee will leave a company as soon as they get a better job or something that bests suits their lifestyle. Also an employee will try to work as little as possible to ensure their salary.. this is human nature. So they treat you the same way you treat them.

What pisses most people off is the power that your employer has over you as an employee. Tough shit - that is the way it is so suck it up and make the system work for you.

Wise up guys and stop looking for somebody else to take care of you. If you work hard (enough anyway) then you will be rewarded. Most importanly - don't work at a job you hate and have clearly defined goals for yourself otherwise you will get lost and feel powerless.

If you don't want to work for somebody else then work for yourself but the risks are much higher. You have to take the good with the bad.

[AssKissinger]

I hope to never work for a private sector company ever again. I no longer want to be involved in anything that makes a profit for anyone, including myself. In America, I'm going to try my best to only work in public education or social work. Eikaiwa verses public school has taught me that I really hate working for 'for profit' companies. And Gomi, that's nothing against what you do. I'm thankful people like you are out there making products for people like me to buy. This is strictly a different strokes for different folks thing not a judgemental thing against corporate cocks and corporate cocksuckers! Yall can suck all the corporate dick you want but I just wanna be a government's titboy. Peace. Allah bless all of yall niggas.

PS Die fucking cunts.

[Maths Dude]

Most of the super rich have cheated to get to the top. I'd rather use my brains to do good, rather than figure out the best way to scam, lie and cheat people.

[Maths Dude]

PS, WTF is up wit you AK? Inaka gettin to ya? Tired of being a token gaijin? LEt it out dude

[GomiGirl]

Most of the super rich have cheated to get to the top. I'd rather use my brains to do good, rather than figure out the best way to scam, lie and cheat people.

What a load of bullshit. The richest people I know are the ones who are honest and hardworking and smart. The scammers you can smell a mile away and they are not the ones to do business with.

Get your head out of your butt.. either that or wait until graduation frat boy and you will see how the world truly works and not how you imagine life is on the other side.

[cstaylor]

In America, I'm going to try my best to only work in public education or social work.

How do you think those two types of jobs get their cash? Bowing and scraping to the private sector.

[dingosatemybaby]

PS, WTF is up wit you AK? Inaka gettin to ya? Tired of being a token gaijin? LEt it out dude

AK is simply channeling the 19th century French writer Stendhal:
"Behind every great fortune lies a crime."

[AssKissinger]

In America, I'm going to try my best to only work in public education or social work.

How do you think those two types of jobs get their cash? Bowing and scraping to the private sector.

They need each other to survive.

[FG Lurker]

In America, I'm going to try my best to only work in public education or social work.

How do you think those two types of jobs get their cash? Bowing and scraping to the private sector.

They need each other to survive.

The public sector certainly needs the private sector... But most private companies could do with a whole lot less public sector.