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Postby Taro Toporific » Tue Jul 20, 2004 12:10 pm

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NEW TOBACCO RULES: Cigarette machines may soon card kids
Asahi Shimbun, Japan - July 20
...government and tobacco industry officials ... plan to make it difficult for those under the age of 20 to purchase smokes.
The Finance Ministry recently revised its rules for approving applications by tobacco retailers wishing to install vending machines.
Cigarette dispensers slated for restaurants and hotels will now be required to be in plain view of employees....
For its part, the industry is experimenting with juvenile-proof cigarette dispensers. An IC (integrated circuit) card verifying that the purchaser is an adult would be required to buy from dispensers. ...
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Postby AssKissinger » Tue Jul 20, 2004 12:39 pm

They still have beer machines out here. Are they being eliminated?
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Postby Naniwan Kid » Tue Jul 20, 2004 1:11 pm

I know they have had time-limits on those things for about 8 years, so they go off at a certain time...usually 11 or 11:30pm, both cigs and alcohol.

How could they possibly make I.D. required? Half the people don't have I.D.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Tue Jul 20, 2004 1:34 pm

AssKissinger wrote:They still have beer machines out here. Are they being eliminated?


As the Naniwan Kid said about 8 years ago beer vending machines officially stop working late at night to 'protect minors'. Actually some still operate 24/7 if you try using them. In 2000 some beer machine started to have an ID card scanning device on it--the a gray box in the upper right of the machine (see pix below) but I doubt it actually does anything other than sensing the presence of anything card shaped.

Japan's Liquor Stores Voluntarily Remove Beer Vending Machines
jointogether.org 6/2/00
Concerned about underage drinking and rampant alcoholism, liquor stores in Japan adopted a voluntary ban on the use of beer vending machines, the Associated Press reported May 31.
The All Japan Liquor Merchants Association estimated that 70 percent of the nation's 170,000 alcohol vending machines were shut down by the ban. Those not taking part in the ban include stores that stay open late and depend heavily on vending machine revenues.....
The ban also addresses a growing concern about heavy alcohol consumption in Japan.

IDENTIFICATION, PLEASE
j-door.com / 2001
For years, Japan's sake, beer, and whiskey vending machines served all comers alike, with teens and other underagers expected to, umm, honor the rules. The government finally realized that maybe not all were, and since last year, machines have been required to verify ID prior to selling alcohol or tobacco. This model, from Fujitaka, locks up tight unless a driver's license (or other age-based ID -- like a video rental chain store card) is inserted. It's also equipped with a touch-screen panel and a CCD camera -- so the sales clerk inside the shop (many beer vending machines are located outside mom and pop liquor stores) can hit a button to unlock the machine if the purchaser looks legal. [[that is, they look like they have money]]
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Postby Captain Japan » Tue Jul 20, 2004 2:27 pm

Taro Toporific wrote:
AssKissinger wrote:They still have beer machines out here. Are they being eliminated?


As the Naniwan Kid said about 8 years ago beer vending machines officially stop working late at night to 'protect minors'. Actually some still operate 24/7 if you try using them. In 2000 some beer machine started to have an ID card scanning device on it--the a gray box in the upper right of the machine (see pix below) but I doubt it actually does anything other than sensing the presence of anything card shaped.

Japan's Liquor Stores Voluntarily Remove Beer Vending Machines
jointogether.org 6/2/00
Concerned about underage drinking and rampant alcoholism, liquor stores in Japan adopted a voluntary ban on the use of beer vending machines, the Associated Press reported May 31.
The All Japan Liquor Merchants Association estimated that 70 percent of the nation's 170,000 alcohol vending machines were shut down by the ban. Those not taking part in the ban include stores that stay open late and depend heavily on vending machine revenues.....
The ban also addresses a growing concern about heavy alcohol consumption in Japan.

IDENTIFICATION, PLEASE
j-door.com / 2001
For years, Japan's sake, beer, and whiskey vending machines served all comers alike, with teens and other underagers expected to, umm, honor the rules. The government finally realized that maybe not all were, and since last year, machines have been required to verify ID prior to selling alcohol or tobacco. This model, from Fujitaka, locks up tight unless a driver's license (or other age-based ID -- like a video rental chain store card) is inserted. It's also equipped with a touch-screen panel and a CCD camera -- so the sales clerk inside the shop (many beer vending machines are located outside mom and pop liquor stores) can hit a button to unlock the machine if the purchaser looks legal. [[that is, they look like they have money]]
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There's a beer machine a few blocks from Roppongi Hills that requires one to buy a card in the nearby liquor store before any purchases can take place. What this means is that the machine is useless when the store closes. Of course when the store is open you can just walk on inside for your beer. So why would anyone use the machine? GuyJean and I were puzzled by this just last Friday. It was soon after that we ran into Kamome and wound up pretty loaded in a regular bar.
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Postby stuckinkysuhu » Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:56 pm

I know that cellphones are starting to be sold with IC cards built in. You can already use it at places like am/pm and eventually you'll be able to use it in place of your suica card on JR etc... Since most of the manufacturers are signed on I guess it's only a matter of time before all the phones have this technology and vending machines have readers for them (its already a reality in hong kong). I guess at that point it would be really easy to check a kids age by just reading their cellphone.
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Postby kamome » Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:58 pm

Captain Japan wrote:GuyJean and I were puzzled by this just last Friday. It was soon after that we ran into Kamome and wound up pretty loaded in a regular bar.


Yep. I wasn't aware of your discovery about vending machines, but the Captain sure was loaded that night! Every girl in the bar was all over you! None of us had a chance. :D
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Postby cstaylor » Tue Jul 20, 2004 10:24 pm

kamome wrote:
Captain Japan wrote:GuyJean and I were puzzled by this just last Friday. It was soon after that we ran into Kamome and wound up pretty loaded in a regular bar.


Yep. I wasn't aware of your discovery about vending machines, but the Captain sure was loaded that night! Every girl in the bar was all over you! None of us had a chance. :D


Man, I miss all the fun! :cry:
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Postby American Oyaji » Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:07 am

Hey, imagine how I feel.

Im HERE in the USA
I will not abide ignorant intolerance just for the sake of getting along.
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Postby kamome » Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:20 am

cstaylor wrote:
kamome wrote:
Captain Japan wrote:GuyJean and I were puzzled by this just last Friday. It was soon after that we ran into Kamome and wound up pretty loaded in a regular bar.


Yep. I wasn't aware of your discovery about vending machines, but the Captain sure was loaded that night! Every girl in the bar was all over you! None of us had a chance. :D


Man, I miss all the fun! :cry:


cs, you always have an invite to hang with us in Tokyo...just let us know which of your Friday nights are free.
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Postby GomiGirl » Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:24 pm

kamome wrote:
cstaylor wrote:
kamome wrote:
Captain Japan wrote:GuyJean and I were puzzled by this just last Friday. It was soon after that we ran into Kamome and wound up pretty loaded in a regular bar.


Yep. I wasn't aware of your discovery about vending machines, but the Captain sure was loaded that night! Every girl in the bar was all over you! None of us had a chance. :D


Man, I miss all the fun! :cry:


cs, you always have an invite to hang with us in Tokyo...just let us know which of your Friday nights are free.


Ahem... am I invited too?? :D

BTW GuyJean - are we ever going to manage lunch???
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Postby Taro Toporific » Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:04 pm

GomiGirl wrote:Ahem... am I invited too?? :D
BTW GuyJean - are we ever going to manage lunch???

Gee, it's not like ALL you guys (except CS) are a less than 8 minute taxi ride from one another.
Sheeee-it, if I ever get relocated to Shinagawa--Omori area (Sept?) I gonna drop in on everybody.
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Postby GuyJean » Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:31 pm

GomiGirl wrote:BTW GuyJean - are we ever going to manage lunch???
Manyana? Actually, Friday might be better.. But I'm supposed to have Thaibehodai and a couple beers on that day. Are you gonna be around R6? (R-Hills)

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Postby GomiGirl » Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:43 pm

GuyJean wrote:
GomiGirl wrote:BTW GuyJean - are we ever going to manage lunch???
Manyana? Actually, Friday might be better.. But I'm supposed to have Thaibehodai and a couple beers on that day. Are you gonna be around R6? (R-Hills)

GJ


Well have appointments for lunch for both thurs and fri.. this week I have a full dance card - only a short week remember.

Next week is looking better.
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Postby Caustic Saint » Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:47 pm

GuyJean wrote:Are you gonna be around R6? (R-Hills)

Does this mean you've switched over to the "new and improved" subway stop recognition system?
More caustic. Less saint. :twisted:
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Postby GomiGirl » Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:56 pm

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Postby GuyJean » Wed Jul 21, 2004 3:08 pm

GG,

OK. Let's shoot for next week. Which day is best?
GomiGirl wrote:But the R6?? Is that some stylin' by GuyJean? I haven't seen it before either.
Yeah, I picked that up when my company moved from Ark to Roppongi Hills. During the move, we referred to Roppongi Hills as R6 (R for Roppongi, 6 for 6-Chome).. I think on the Oedo line Roppongi is E23, BTW. :wink:

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Postby kamome » Wed Jul 21, 2004 4:09 pm

GuyJean wrote:Manyana? Actually, Friday might be better.. But I'm supposed to have Thaibehodai and a couple beers on that day. Are you gonna be around R6? (R-Hills)

GJ


GUYJEAN, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I AM SO THERE FOR LUNCH, DUDE! SEND ME A PM WITH THE TIME/PLACE.
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Postby GomiGirl » Wed Jul 21, 2004 4:18 pm

kamome wrote:
GuyJean wrote:Manyana? Actually, Friday might be better.. But I'm supposed to have Thaibehodai and a couple beers on that day. Are you gonna be around R6? (R-Hills)

GJ


GUYJEAN, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I AM SO THERE FOR LUNCH, DUDE! SEND ME A PM WITH THE TIME/PLACE.


Shouldn't you ask if it is OK with me as well??? :wink:

Jokes my friend!! :lol:

Which expense account can we use???? :wink:
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Postby GuyJean » Wed Jul 21, 2004 5:16 pm

kamome wrote:GUYJEAN, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I AM SO THERE FOR LUNCH, DUDE! SEND ME A PM WITH THE TIME/PLACE.
Don't mind a bit!.. Can you get up to Almond sometime around 1 or 2?

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Postby GuyJean » Wed Jul 21, 2004 5:17 pm

GomiGirl wrote:Shouldn't you ask if it is OK with me as well???
Is it okay if Kamome has lunch with me? I won't get him too drunk..

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Postby kamome » Wed Jul 21, 2004 8:46 pm

Sorry GG, I didn't realize I was inviting myself to your party. :wink: I remember Guyjean telling me about the all-you-can-eat Thai food in Roppongi that was supposed to be really good. If you don't mind me tagging along, it should make for a nice afternoon.

GJ, I'm sure I can get myself to Almond at either time. Can we make it for 1PM, though? I'll pass out from hunger and heat stroke if we wait until 2PM.
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Postby GuyJean » Wed Jul 21, 2004 8:55 pm

kamome wrote:GJ, I'm sure I can get myself to Almond at either time. Can we make it for 1PM, though? I'll pass out from hunger and heat stroke if we wait until 2PM.
You weenie! :wink:

It totally depends on my schedule Friday, which isn't up to me. But I'll make it a point to be there around 1.. Could you have an early lunch? 11:30?

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Postby GomiGirl » Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:05 pm

I can't do this friday - I have a "play date"* booked with CSTaylor - next friday should work.

*meeting with grumpy client
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Postby cstaylor » Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:22 pm

GomiGirl wrote:I can't do this friday - I have a "play date"* booked with CSTaylor - next friday should work.

*meeting with grumpy client
Hopefully this will be the last meeting with them. Not that I mind having dinner with GG, but this customer is pretty lame IMHO. :!:
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Postby kamome » Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:17 am

GuyJean wrote:It totally depends on my schedule Friday, which isn't up to me. But I'll make it a point to be there around 1.. Could you have an early lunch? 11:30?

GJ


Anytime is fine. Let me know on the day of re: your availability.
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Postby Buraku » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:40 am

and they'll try it again

New cigarette machines to card buyers

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?nn20050521f1.htm

no mention of the vending machines selling shitty stained under pants
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