All Gaijin Required to carry IC card

[FG Lurker]

In either case though I hope they get their encryption systems in order...

If it's an IC chip, that encryption is already available on most cards. By not broadcasting the information over radio waves, casual reads by third parties are impossible.

IC cards can be read from a distance as well. I can use my building security card when it is in my wallet and the wallet is inside my briefcase. Reading the data off of cards on a crowded train would not be difficult.

Breaking the encryption is another matter though, hence my comment above. With current technology the strongest encryption systems are not breakable (as long as the key is good enough). However a sudden jump in computing power or a newly found weakness in the encryption system would quickly change the rules.

[cstaylor]

IC cards can be read from a distance as well. I can use my building security card when it is in my wallet and the wallet is inside my briefcase. Reading the data off of cards on a crowded train would not be difficult.

I think you're referring to contactless IC cards. Bank cards with IC chips (also known as "smartcards") must be inserted into a reader to function.

[Taro Toporific]

But wait, it gets better...





Japanese government plans to compile database on foreigners

The Yomiuri Shimbun Sat, Jun. 11, 2005
The Justice Ministry likely will introduce a new database to collate information on foreigners visiting and residing in Japan, and has requested a budgetary allocation for the system next fiscal year, ministry sources said Saturday.
The sources said the ministry can currently search online only text information, such as an individual's name and nationality, and plans to upgrade the system to download images, such as people's photos and fingerprints.
Records on individuals who in the past were deported after committing crimes also will be able to be accessed online under the new system, according to the sources, adding that those records are now available only by fax from the local immigration bureau that deported the individual.....The government is also planning to submit a bill next year to revise the Immigration Control and Refugee Recognition Law to require all foreigners, except Koreans with permanent resident status, to be fingerprinted and photographed upon entering Japan. The image information, once the bill passes the Diet, will also be included in the new database, according to the sources.

[sludge]

Does anyone know Are IC Card effected by Magnets?
(Like Regular Credit/ bank cards are)

[cstaylor]

It's not the same mechanism. Smartcards are low-cost CPUs with their contacts exposed on the surface of the card. They have internal memories, but they are designed (AFAIK) to withstand certain external influences. In addition, they are relatively tamperproof (well, they should deter casual copying), and will internally self-destruct rather than give up their secrets.

I used to work for Tandem Computers in the computer security division, so I got paid to read a lot of material concerning smart cards.

[homesweethome]

http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/newse/20050616wo24.htm

The Liberal Democratic Party on Wednesday submitted to the government a plan to introduce an integrated circuit card containing fingerprint data for foreigners in the party's new proposals on immigration control measures.

The LDP submitted the proposals to Chief Cabinet Secretary Hiroyuki Hosoda on the day.

The proposals are aimed at cracking down on foreigners who enter Japan with malicious intent,

So this means to all you malicious gaijin out there...?


Can somebody tell me what 'malicious' will mean? Will I be labeled 'malicious' if I throw out a steel can on nama gomi days?

[nullpointer]

Can somebody tell me what 'malicious' will mean? Will I be labeled 'malicious' if I throw out a steel can on nama gomi days?

You are already prove malicious for asking such question. Nice foreigner no need worry at all. This law for people who question J-govt policy, no pay ward-tax, no-like to pay pension extor^H^H^H^H^H payment etc.

Yokoso!

[Buraku]

Have a look at the Justice Ministry & Immigration Bureau Web site where people can anonymously report suspicious foreigners in their Fink-on-a-foreigner scheme. Informants are asked to select a motive for reporting a foreigner from a list on the site. The reasons a foreigner can be reported include "causing a nuisance in the neighborhood" and "causing anxiety." Causing anxiety? Sitting on the train next to
almost any Nihonjin seems to cause them anxiety. Critics say these reasons have nothing to do with illegal behavior.The sources said the ministry might revise the list of motives on the Web site, or may ask informants to write their own reasons for turning someone in to the authorities. http://www.immi-moj.go.jp/zyouhou/index.html
give the cops the name
Then click on the
PRE - SET OPTIONS for FINKING ON A FOREIGNER
Personal stake in the matter ("rigai kankei")
Police haven't dealt with it ("keisatsu futaiou")
Something else ("sono ta")
Couldn't get work due to violator ("ihansha no tame ni kyuushoku sarenakatta")
Unclear ("fumei")
For instance, you can snitch on someone because you are bothered by -- or even just outright hate -- foreigners (item 3); or because they should be sent home for some "compassionate" leave (item 7); or the unemployment lines were too long today (item 11); or even if the foreigner has a zit on his nose (item 12).
Actually, you don't even need a reason (item 13 )
The network, Stop Cyber Xenophobia, called on the federation to urge the Immigration Bureau to terminate the service.
It said the bureau's decision to start the service out of "convenience" constitutes racial discrimination and violates the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination, as for the "local obasan" with nothing better to do than report every gaijin she sees, well poor Nick Baker is taking it up the tailpipe now for his fellow gajins back in his home town.

[omae mona]

http://www.immi-moj.go.jp/zyouhou/index.html
give the cops the name
Then click on the
PRE - SET OPTIONS for FINKING ON A FOREIGNER
Personal stake in the matter ("rigai kankei")
Police haven't dealt with it ("keisatsu futaiou")
Something else ("sono ta")
Couldn't get work due to violator ("ihansha no tame ni kyuushoku sarenakatta")
Unclear ("fumei")

Buraku, thanks for the exhaustive research. I am amazed at the accuracy]http://forum.japantoday.com/m_107061/mpage_3/tm.htm[/url] word for word, so it must be true! It also made me realize it's time for me to get back to my Japanese study. When I read the page all I could find was a free-form field asking users to write a description of what illegal activity they believe to be taking place. I know that pre-set options field you mention must be there somewhere, but I just can't find it.

[Tsuru]

Alarming...

[Buraku]

I know that pre-set options field you mention must be there somewhere, but I just can't find it.

those idiots on that website talk a lot of shit
but this info is true,
http://www.debito.org/immigrationsnitchsite.html

There are no clear criteria delineated for what constitutes an "illegal" foreigner,
Preset reasons for informing on foreigners include "hatred", "fear", and "no reason at all", and
Informants need not give any verifiable details about themselves, alleviating them of the burden of responsibility for their comments.

Shintaro who calls foreign immigration to Japan a source of "genetic pollution."
sieg heil Ishihitler Shit-taro !!

[omae mona]

those idiots on that website talk a lot of shit
but this info is true,
http://www.debito.org/immigrationsnitchsite.html

I have no doubt it was true when it was written in early 2004. What I am hinting at is that maybe the Ministry of Justice responded to the complaints from Amnesty International and even Japanese groups, by fixing the page shortly afterwards. And maybe Debito didn't bother to post this followup news.

[nullpointer]

your original description matches a March 2004 post at http://forum.japantoday.com/m_107061/mpage_3/tm.htm word for word, so it must be true!

[Greji]

those idiots on that website talk a lot of shit
but this info is true,
http://www.debito.org/immigrationsnitchsite.html

I have no doubt it was true when it was written in early 2004. What I am hinting at is that maybe the Ministry of Justice responded to the complaints from Amnesty International and even Japanese groups, by fixing the page shortly afterwards. And maybe Debito didn't bother to post this followup news.

I read somewhere (might have been an email from Debito), that Immigrations came under a lot of fire for the Snitch out a Gaijin site, but only changed the nature of reasons why you were snitching i.e. he smells, he is not Japanese, etc. I'll try to dig that out and post it.


gb

[cstaylor]

Actually, you may not believe this, but I have been told by a very reliable inside source that the real reason why these new IC Cards are going to be started soon is because the Japanese police recently busted this HUGE Southeast Asian organized crime network that had, among other things, approximately SEVENTY THOUSAND (70,000) Japan Alien Registration Cards

Exactly. And without access to the right private keys, those forgers will have a hell of a time creating fake cards.

[omae mona]

Exactly. And without access to the right private keys, those forgers will have a hell of a time creating fake cards.

What exactly are you implying, young man?

[cstaylor]

Exactly. And without access to the right private keys, those forgers will have a hell of a time creating fake cards.

What exactly are you implying, young man?

The Chinese ring of card forgers.

[omae mona]

Exactly. And without access to the right private keys, those forgers will have a hell of a time creating fake cards.

What exactly are you implying, young man?

The Chinese ring of card forgers.

You gave them the private keys? Bad, bad cstaylor!

[Mulboyne]

I have been told by a very reliable inside source that the real reason why these new IC Cards are going to be started soon is because the Japanese police recently busted this HUGE Southeast Asian organized crime network that had, among other things, approximately SEVENTY THOUSAND (70,000) Japan Alien Registration Cards

That was the reason given behind the introduction of the new design this month (FG Thread: New Gaijin Card Design) so the idea that it is primarily an anti-counterfeiting measure is dubious. Additionally, in the bust (FG Thread: Fake Fucked Gaijin Cards) they uncovered passports and driving licences but I haven't seen any proposals to redesign those let alone incorporate a chip.

[cstaylor]

Exactly. And without access to the right private keys, those forgers will have a hell of a time creating fake cards.

What exactly are you implying, young man?

The Chinese ring of card forgers.

You gave them the private keys? Bad, bad cstaylor!

Oh, where to start...

When dealing with smartcards like these, they are usually protected by some form of encryption. Back in the day, they could only handle symmetric ciphers like DES, but newer cards are powerful enough to handle asymmetric ciphers like RSA or DSA. The card can include a digital certificate that anyone can read with the appropriate IC reader, and the certificate is signed with the private keys of the immigration department. So the data can be read by anyone, but anyone without access to the certificate server's private keys is out of luck in making their own cards.

[cstaylor]

If the cards only have the existing gaikokujin torokusho information signed by the immigration department's private keys, and the card is *not* a radio chip, then I don't see a problem with it.

Fingerprints? Radio chips? Bad... very bad....

[Greji]

If the cards only have the existing gaikokujin torokusho information signed by the immigration department's private keys, and the card is *not* a radio chip, then I don't see a problem with it.

Fingerprints? Radio chips? Bad... very bad....

Why not include GPS, we at least deserve to be had by the state of the art!

[cstaylor]

Why not include GPS, we at least deserve to be had by the state of the art!

Anything that transmits wirelessly would be bad IMO.

[oyajikun]

Why not include GPS, we at least deserve to be had by the state of the art!

Anything that transmits wirelessly would be bad IMO.

It would give new meaning to Bluetooth.

[homesweethome]

CS Taylor:

Anything that transmits wirelessly would be bad IMO.

They had that figured out a long time ago.

http://www.analogzone.com/hfp_0505.htm

By combining the rfPIC12F675 microcontroller/transmitters with either the rfRXD0420 receiver or rfRXD0920 receiver, users can easily create a wireless uni-directional communication link for embedded control applications. The receivers can also be combined with the company's existing rfPIC devices and KEELOQ encoders to create remote sense and control applications.

This is ancient news.

Anything they put in these cards will only require the right activation sequence and a small amount of 'charge' to 'broadcast all the relevant information.

[homesweethome]

Homesweethome:

Anything they put in these cards will only require the right activation sequence and a small amount of 'charge' to 'broadcast all the relevant information.

This means: (to the tune of Blue Hawaii (or anything else) whoever you are, whatever you do, wherever you go, I'm watching you.

If this isn't F*cked, I don't know what is mate.

[NeoNecroNomiCron]

Wrap in in tinfoil instant faraday cage, even try it with your suica card, it reallys doesnt work.

[homesweethome]

NeoNeonomicron (sp?) wrote:

Wrap in in tinfoil instant faraday cage

Sure, go ahead and do this. How will you account for the 'black holes' that it will leave in your 'record'? I mean the ones that account for your whereabouts at times and places the card most definately will record.

What have you got to hide? is all the authorities will think.

Believe me, they will come up with something.

This will most definately get you labeled a malicious gaijin.

[Big Booger]

I'll superglue mine to my scrote.

[AssKissinger]

I'll superglue mine to my scrote.

That's dedication to the law!