The Origin of Shoyu is in Korea nida!!!

[Takechanpoo]

"Inventor of Shoyu is Korean nida!!!". To correct the "wrong" recognition that World thinks Shoyu origin is in Japan, Korean company plans to put an strategy into operation, Korean JoongAngIlbo reported. But Kikkoman, which occupies 60% of shoyu used in U.S, said "We heard the theory of Korean shoyu origin for the first time!".
In Kamakura period(1185~1333), buddist monk Kakushin carried a method of manufacturing miso back from China to Japan and on the basis of the method shoyu was invented. This is the origin of shoyu, according to Japan Shoyu Association.

In addition, Korean also try stealing Judo, Kendo, Karate, Samurai(Bushi-do), J-sword, cherry blossom, origami, sushi, sashimi, udon, way of tea, and so on.
Why do Kimchi dudes always try stealing cultures from foreign countries, especially Japan and China?
Get a life, Kimchi dudes.

[IkemenTommy]

For the full story, click here nida (Japanese).

[Midwinter]

Why do Kimchi dudes always try stealing cultures from foreign countries, especially Japan and China?
Get a life, Kimchi dudes.

Hello Pot, I'm the kettle. You're black!

[IkemenTommy]

Hello Pot, I'm the kettle. You're black!

To put it more simply for Takechamp, 똥 묻은 개가 겨 묻은 개 나무란다

[xenomorph42]

Do I detect a slight bit of inferiority complex coming on?

[Midwinter]

Do I detect a slight bit of inferiority complex coming on?

Well he certainly isn't going to prove how big and tough he is by dropping his pants

[blackcat]

Take:

you forgot to add Kim(U)chi thats japanese too right!?

Oh yeah and... Ramen...and Gyoza.

Thieving Koreans!! How dare they!

[kamome]

Take:

you forgot to add Kim(U)chi thats japanese too right!?

Oh yeah and... Ramen...and Gyoza.

Thieving Koreans!! How dare they!

How about yoshoku like omuraisu? Also, curry rice, coroquet, etc.? Tons of food eaten in Japan has been pilfered from other countries.

[Takechanpoo]

Japanese never insist the origins of these things are in Japan.

[Midwinter]

Japanese never insist the origins of these things are in Japan.

Oh, oh, oh, let me... BULLSHIT!

Thank you very much, I'll be here all week

[Visitor K]

ive never heard a japanese person claim kimchi, gyoza or ramen are from japan.. mcdonalds, yes. 7-11, yes. but curry, no.
sure japan borrows a lot from other countries, and has for a long time (buddhism, kanji...), but i dont think they insist these things are from japan, but then again, im sure some delusional people do.
i dont know enough about the history of these other things to say if they originated in korea, japan, or china, but even from take's own post it would seem shoyu came from china:

In Kamakura period(1185~1333), buddist monk Kakushin carried a method of manufacturing miso back from China...

.. i really wonder why nobody claims natto!?

[Charles]

To correct the "wrong" recognition that World thinks Shoyu origin is in Japan, Korean company plans to put an strategy into operation..

[Blah Pete]

I heard from many Koreans that chilli peppers came from Japan (likely by way of China or S.E. Asia). So, in a way the modern S. Korea kimchee has a Japanese influence. Before chilli was added the kimchee was like mizu-kimchee, which is the type the N. Koreans prefer.

[Samurai_Jerk]

I heard from many Koreans that chilli peppers came from Japan (likely by way of China or S.E. Asia). So, in a way the modern S. Korea kimchee has a Japanese influence. Before chilli was added the kimchee was like mizu-kimchee, which is the type the N. Koreans prefer.

Actually, chili peppers came from the Americas like corn, tomatoes, and potatoes. Thank you Cristobal Colon!

[Takechanpoo]

According to Kimchi information, even Confucius is Korean.

[JellyBoy]

Tempura was brought to Japan by Portugese sailors. Funnily enough, I've never met a Japanese person who knew that.

[IkemenTommy]

Tempura was brought to Japan by Portugese sailors. Funnily enough, I've never met a Japanese person who knew that.

Didn't Tokugawa Ieyasu invent tempura?

[Greji]

Tempura was brought to Japan by Portugese sailors. Funnily enough, I've never met a Japanese person who knew that.

I've met quite a few Japanese who know that to include that tempura is a derivative of the Portugee word and not Nihongo!

[omae mona]

Oh, oh, oh, let me... BULLSHIT!

Thank you very much, I'll be here all week

I have to agree with Takechanpoo. I've never heard Japan claim to completely originate those foods. The "yo" character in "yoshoku" basically means "western" (and they ain't talking about kansai). Also, ramen is even written in Katakana. The first sentence in the history section of the Japanese Wikipedia page on Gyoza acknowledges the Chinese origin of Gyoza. That doesn't mean people in Japan don't believe they improved on the inventions, though.

[TennoChinko]

Next year, the Koreans will be claiming they invented sushi....


However, I don't think we'll see the Japanese claiming they invented freshly-beaten dog meat stew.

[ttjereth]

ive never heard a japanese person claim kimchi, gyoza or ramen are from japan.. mcdonalds, yes. 7-11, yes. but curry, no.
sure japan borrows a lot from other countries, and has for a long time (buddhism, kanji...), but i dont think they insist these things are from japan, but then again, im sure some delusional people do.
i dont know enough about the history of these other things to say if they originated in korea, japan, or china, but even from take's own post it would seem shoyu came from china:



.. i really wonder why nobody claims natto!?

I have to agree. Way back when I was a newbie and would get asked what my "favorite japanese foods" were every ten seconds, I would almost always be told Japanese that ramen and gyoza were actually Chinese and so not really Japanese food.

Oh, and the Chinese claim natto.

[ttjereth]

Tempura was brought to Japan by Portugese sailors. Funnily enough, I've never met a Japanese person who knew that.

I think you might just be hanging out with dumb people then

I've met plenty of Japanese who didn't know specifically where things came from, but they at least knew the came from somewhere else (like the word arubaito, which plenty of Japanese seem to think is English).

I have met a lot who think 7-11 and the "conbini" concept is Japanese though.

[ttjereth]

Next year, the Koreans will be claiming they invented sushi....


However, I don't think we'll see the Japanese claiming they invented freshly-beaten dog meat stew.

If the Koreans really wanted to rile people up they should just claim they invented the Japanese royal family...

[Visitor K]

Oh, and the Chinese claim natto.

eww. why?

in the reverse effect, have you ever had anybody try to tell you that 'mr. doughnuts' is from the states? someone told me that when they first opened they claimed to be a chicago based company.. trying to make it seem more authentic americana, i guess.

[ttjereth]

eww. why?

in the reverse effect, have you ever had anybody try to tell you that 'mr. doughnuts' is from the states? someone told me that when they first opened they claimed to be a chicago based company.. trying to make it seem more authentic americana, i guess.

I hadn't heard that one yet. Actually I don't know if I've ever heard any Japanese mistakenly claim something Japanese was from somewhere else...

[Mulboyne]

...have you ever had anybody try to tell you that 'mr. doughnuts' is from the states?...

I'm not sure if you are being ironic but, just in case you aren't, Mr Donut was originally a US company and the first Japan operations were a franchise deal.

[Charles]

I'm not sure if you are being ironic but, just in case you aren't, Mr Donut was originally a US company and the first Japan operations were a franchise deal.

Holy crap, I haven't seen that name in decades. My sister used to work in the local Mister Donut shop back in the 1970s, when she was in high school.

[Visitor K]

I'm not sure if you are being ironic but, just in case you aren't, Mr Donut was originally a US company and the first Japan operations were a franchise deal.

hmm.. can i plead irony now? but really, i had no idea, i guess the person who told me that wasnt completely bat shit crazy.

[Uhhuh35]

Next year, the Koreans will be claiming they invented sushi....However, I don't think we'll see the Japanese claiming they invented freshly-beaten dog meat stew.

Hehehehe!:D

[Samurai_Jerk]

I'm not sure if you are being ironic but, just in case you aren't, Mr Donut was originally a US company and the first Japan operations were a franchise deal.

I'm glad to know I wasn't imagining things. I thought I remembered Mr. Donut from when I was a kid in the US but everyone kept telling me it was a Japanese chain, so I thought I was wrong.