end of Wai Wai on Mainichi website???

[Grnbrd]

[Takechanpoo]

Aussie media picked up this issue, too.
http://www.theage.com.au/world/japanese-set-the-blogs-on-sleazy-australian-writer-20080704-31w7.html

[Osakadave]

Aussie media picked up this issue, too.
http://www.theage.com.au/world/japanese-set-the-blogs-on-sleazy-australian-writer-20080704-31w7.html

Excellent. I sent that on to Drudge Report, who\ll be able to splash it all over the US.

And in a side note, the MDN's forum's dissapeared... I wonder if that has anything to do with this little fight....

[Jack]

Aussie media picked up this issue, too.
http://www.theage.com.au/world/japanese-set-the-blogs-on-sleazy-australian-writer-20080704-31w7.html

Very well written article. Anyone reading that will side with Mainichi.

[Mulboyne]

Very well written article. Anyone reading that will side with Mainichi.

Against who?

[Charles]

[Jack]

Against who?

Right.

I meant to say they will understand Mainichi's decision to get out of the waiwai business.

Having sex with the animals before eating them? What the fuck? Why even write shit like that? Even if it's published in some obscure sixth rate magazine.

[CrankyBastard]

Jack, did you ever read any of the WaiWai articles?

[Midwinter]

Jack, did you ever read any of the WaiWai articles?

It's hard for him to read anything when his head is buried that far up his own arse.

[American Oyaji]

Right.

I meant to say they will understand Mainichi's decision to get out of the waiwai business.

Having sex with the animals before eating them? What the fuck? Why even write shit like that? Even if it's published in some obscure sixth rate magazine.

Jack,
The ones who should be ashamed for writing this should be those that wrote the articles in Japanese, not those who faithfully translated it for the English speaking net.

[Catoneinutica]

Having sex with the animals before eating them? What the fuck?

Ask the Ayatollah!

"It is loathsome to eat the meat of a horse, a mule, or a donkey if someone has had coitus with the animal."

The Ayatollah's book of etiquette
http://harpers.org/archive/1985/06/0010032

-catone

-Eating locusts caught with the hand or by some other means is lawful after they are dead. It is not necessary that the person who caught them be a Moslem or that he mentioned the name of God when he caught them. But if a dead locust is held by an infidel and it is not known whether it was caught alive, it is not lawful to eat it, even if the person who caught it says that he caught it alive.

-keep that in mind, infidels!

[Jack]

Jack,
The ones who should be ashamed for writing this should be those that wrote the articles in Japanese, not those who faithfully translated it for the English speaking net.

But the whole story and the reason for people being infuriated is that when it appears in Mainichi it gives some sort of credence to the story. In the US when you check-out those supermarket tabloids and the headline claims a women got pregnant by an extraterrestrial, everyone knows its crap. But if that article got translated in Japanese in the Japanese version of Forbes magazine then Japanese people might think that may be true. I'm picking this just as an example.

When the stupid stories are written in the original Japanese trash media people of that language know it is trash and it stays there. But the rest of the population in the world do not. Once it appears in Mainichi's English language version, then it gives it credence.

Again, as usual, there is this "the Japanese fucked the gaijin" attitude even though Mainichi is in the right for making this decision.

[CrankyBastard]

Jack, did you ever read any of the WaiWai articles?

[Jack]

Jack, did you ever read any of the WaiWai articles?

Religiously every one of them? Except the one with bestiality.

[CrankyBastard]

Religiously every one of them? Except the one with bestiality.

Did you think them inappropriate or did you believe the content at the time when you read them?

[CrankyBastard]

I used to have the choice of reading WaiWai or ignoring it.
The choice is now denied me.
That's what pisses me off.

[Greji]

Did you think them inappropriate or did you believe the content at the time when you read them?

Plus, did you by chance notice that the original article was always set forth? I suppose you didn't if you think that those articles sway world opinion against Japan.

Also for your information (again) this was a concerted effort by a single group of people (read assholes) from 2channel who were sucessful in calling out Mainichi because they have people at the newspaper that apparently have the same reading skills as you do. They also had organized gangs involved through the Uyoku and Mainichi decided to cut and run. The unfortunate part is that they gave these radical dipshits a major victory without the slightest resistance and god knows what the will do next. They have already been after members of this board and others, but they surely would never bother you because reading your posts, you obviously support them and their cyber intimidation....

[Grnbrd]

"And a third wondered: "Why doesn't someone drop a hydrogen atom bomb on Australia?"

It seems it's quoted from a "Itai News",http://blog.livedoor.jp/dqnplus/(actual article:http://blog.livedoor.jp/dqnplus/archives/1142952.html), not from 2ch itself. Japanese won't say such a thing even as a joke. Japan is still a totalitarian state and all Japanese get brainwashed into being allergic to nukes through school education. "Saori", the poster, might be a forigner disguised as Japanese. As a japanese word, "Suiso Genshi Bakudan", the leteral translation of "Hydrogen atom bomb" used by Saori, is quite unnatural.

[Jack]

Plus, did you by chance notice that the original article was always set forth? I suppose you didn't if you think that those articles sway world opinion against Japan.

Who the hell cares what the source article is? You can tell me it is from Shukan Post until you die, it means nothing if I don't know what shukan Post is all about. For all I know it could be a glossy reputable paper. But maybe you guys are too set in your mindset that "some Japanese fucked a foreigner over" so no matter how logical you will be against the argument. Talk about some fucking cry babies.

[kamome]

You can tell me it is from Shukan Post until you die, it means nothing if I don't know what shukan Post is all about. For all I know it could be a glossy reputable paper.

Don't impute your cluelessness to the rest of the English speaking community that read WaiWai. Even if some people don't know that Shukan Post is a tabloid, the answer is not to ban WaiWai but rather to have a dialogue about its contents and let people decide what to believe. These 2chers have bullied MDN into depriving people of the chance to make an informed decision by using your logic that "people might think" it is legitimate news. If it's not "legitimate" then let's discuss why it isn't but don't deprive people of the choice.

[Jack]

Don't impute your cluelessness to the rest of the English speaking community that read WaiWai. Even if some people don't know that Shukan Post is a tabloid, the answer is not to ban WaiWai but rather to have a dialogue about its contents and let people decide what to believe. These 2chers have bullied MDN into depriving people of the chance to make an informed decision by using your logic that "people might think" it is legitimate news. If it's not "legitimate" then let's discuss why it isn't but don't deprive people of the choice.

Mainichi has, rightfully, decided that it is not the place to have that discussion. It has no obligation to do so. Waiwai was a bad idea. They realized it and not they canned it.

[Mulboyne]

Additional message:

Mainichi to announce results of investigation into inappropriate articles in WaiWai column
The Mainichi Newspapers Co., Ltd. is conducting an in-house investigation into the publication of inappropriate articles in the WaiWai column of the Mainichi Daily News. We will announce the results of the investigation, such as why inappropriate stories were run on the site, in the middle of this month. We will ask the "Open Newspaper" Committee, a third-party organization comprising of outside experts, for opinions on the investigation results and report it.

[Charles]

Mainichi to announce results of investigation into inappropriate articles in WaiWai column

I want to hear their explanation for hiring that gynecologist columnist.

[Greji]

Who the hell cares what the source article is? You can tell me it is from Shukan Post until you die, it means nothing if I don't know what shukan Post is all about. For all I know it could be a glossy reputable paper. But maybe you guys are too set in your mindset that "some Japanese fucked a foreigner over" so no matter how logical you will be against the argument. Talk about some fucking cry babies.

The operative statement here is "For all I know". Obviously, there are a lot of members of the FG community who liked Wai Wai, but the point is the 2channelers and some Ultra Rightest yaks, were capable of shutting it down.

They did it on primarily false accusations and brute force. How about if they decide to do FG? Or for that matter any other open sourced media?

As for your "Talk about some fucking cry babies" statement. As a result of this, there is a man and his family on police protection not allowed to leave their home. The children have to be escorted to school and home again.

Drop by my office while you in Japan this time and we will discuss the fucking cry babies you think live in Japan. PM me if you want to set up the date and place!

[Kuang_Grade]

Well said, Greji, although I think we all know that the only time Jack leaves his troll basement is when his mom forgets to pickup his weekly supply of Hot Pockets.

And I'm hard pressed to think of many "glossy" newspapers beyond Women's Wear Daily or maybe Daily Variety.

[Captain Japan]

so no matter how logical you will be against the argument. Talk about some fucking cry babies.

Actually I think it is the ni-channel punks who are the fucking cry babies. They don't want Japan's shitty side to be shown to the outside world. If this were simply against WaiWai or the Mainichi, as went the original complaints went, this matter would have died right along with the cancellation of WaiWai. But the issue keeps getting larger. So Jack, who is not being logical?

[GomiGirl]

Jack, this is not about how badly an FG has been treated, it is about how a newspaper (a reputable one by your own account) has allowed themselves to be censored by a bunch of thugs.

These thugs are clueless and got the wrong idea about what the MDN was publishing so started with their bully tactics. Now instead of handling the situation like a newspaper should, they caved. It was an opportunity for the MDN to inform and educate on both the tabloid press and the thugs and also how people can have a sense of humour, instead they hung their own staff out to dry for doing their job.

Can't you see that there is something much more sinister in this? Of course it is very disappointing to see the FG staff treated badly but hey, that is a daily occurance (Nova anybody?). And where are the tabloids in all of this? Why aren't they a target for publishing the "unsavoury Japanese" stuff in the first place? The whole mess stinks.

It was clear to everybody that WaiWai was not "news" but a representation of a segment of the publishing world that exists in Japan. It exists, even if it is not translated into English.

[halfnip]

Wait... Just [SIZE="7"]HOLD UP![/SIZE]



The stories in Wai Wai weren't true?

[Takechanpoo]

[Mulboyne]