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American Oyaji wrote:
Case in point, there is a friend of my girlfriend who everyone (American guys) say is super hot. But my girl says that this woman is ugly by Japanese standards.
kusai Jijii wrote:but its true none the less. there are some absolute stinkers here, but by and large, its a far wider strike zone in Japan.
MrUltimateGaijin wrote:wouldn't Japanese dudes opinions be the relevant ones?
Samurai_Jerk wrote:Of course there is a fair percentage of gaijin guys that think every women in Japan is an excotic beauty, will walk into a bar full of 4s, 5s, and 6,s and see 8s, 9s, and 10s and go on about how hot all of them are.
Gilligan wrote:(personally, I'm not into anorexic, pre-pubescent airheads).
Samurai_Jerk wrote:Sorry, GG, but that's the way most guys look at women at first. Obviously, once you get to know someone there are other factors that come in, but if there isn't the first spark of attraction, nothing else matter.
GomiGirl wrote:I "she's hot/not hot" would actually be preferable.
FG Lurker wrote:You might like my scale then -- 1 or 0. Doable...or not.
FG Lurker wrote:You might like my scale then -- 1 or 0. Doable...or not.
Samurai_Jerk wrote:I would say the average women I've seen married to a gaijin was no prettier or uglier than the average Japanese women. I think one of the issues is that a lot of Japanese guys think that every gaijin (read white man, since that's usually what they mean) is a Charisma Man stud in Japan and could land Fujiwara Norika if he wanted to.
Samurai_Jerk wrote:Another issue is that a lot of time Japanese guys and foreign guys have different standards of beauty. I was at a friend's house party earlier this year and one of the guests was a Japanese girl who was a stripper with huge tits and a nice round ass. Every gaijin in the room was picking his jaw up off the floor while all the Japanese guys thought she was "too big."
This I disagree with, to an extent. While it might be true that many Western guys that ultimately find their way to Japan or hook up with someone outside their race/ethnicity, are the type who were a bit socially awkward back home, don't discount the effect of YBF. I think some guys just really get off on Asian girls, and so those 5s are 8s to them, regardless of their track-record back home. I was sleeping with 2 different white girls when I met my first Japanese girlfriend. I have NEVER had a problem with white chicks. But, YBF has certainly made me overestimate the rating of J-girl or two in my time.Samurai_Jerk wrote:That's the typical opinion of guys who couldn't get laid back home.
GomiGirl wrote:This type of categorising makes me feel ill.
You are talking about people here!! Thinking somebody a "4" or a "10" based on looks alone (hello!! genetics people) just cheapens both yourself and them.
Sorry for rant - not directed at Bo-sensei per se, just this sort of locker room speak gets pretty old in mixed company.
GomiGirl wrote:And at the end of the day, who the fuck are you to be making such judgements...
GomiGirl wrote:Now I am not going to get all feminazi on your arses - of course I understand the wiring and the visual nature etc... this is not my rant. It is the reduction of a person to a number/ranking out of 10.
"she's hot/not hot" would actually be preferable.
Plus one man's trash is another man's treasure so all of these discussions are too subjective for my logical brain to compute.
Samurai_Jerk wrote:Sorry, GG, but that's the way most guys look at women at first. Obviously, once you get to know someone there are other factors that come in, but if there isn't the first spark of attraction, nothing else matter.
GomiGirl wrote:This type of categorising makes me feel ill.
You are talking about people here!! Thinking somebody a "4" or a "10" based on looks alone (hello!! genetics people) just cheapens both yourself and them.
And at the end of the day, who the fuck are you to be making such judgements...
Sorry for rant - not directed at Bo-sensei per se, just this sort of locker room speak gets pretty old in mixed company.
Gilligan wrote:An understanding wife?
kusai Jijii wrote:but its true none the less. there are some absolute stinkers here, but by and large, its a far wider strike zone in Japan.
Dragonette wrote:It comes down to "would I or wouldn't I"...
Adhesive wrote:In actuality, most Western men will agree that the average Asian girl is prefereable to the average, cellulite-ridden Westerner.
Dragonette wrote:Marrying for cash or security, which seems to be a J-gal thing
GomiGirl wrote:Now I am not going to get all feminazi on your arses - of course I understand the wiring and the visual nature etc... this is not my rant. It is the reduction of a person to a number/ranking out of 10.
kusai Jijii wrote:Right. Ok then. You win.
kusai Jijii wrote:What? Like women dont objectify men? And in J-pan of all places? GG, stay off the drugs mate.
GomiGirl wrote:I said it was the number ranking that bothered me. Hot/not hot was normal...
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