American Sushi Gets Real

[Mulboyne]

[Cyka UchuuJin]

i think all foods get adapted and localised when imported into other countries. if you go to italy, the majority of restaurants are held court by a nice older guy who also recognises most of his patrons and regales you with the specials of the day and how they are caught/prepared/served. you go to an italian place in japan and it's usually a set menu with a pizza or pasta. when it comes to sushi in america, they've come up with the california roll, the rainbow roll, among countless others. stuff that horrifies japanese, as it sort of desicrates the whole sushi-ya experience. a guy who calls himself a 'sushi conceirge' is just a novelty...and one that would only be thought up by americans anyway!

[satoru]

I think the main problem in America is the fact that the maki menu is generally 2-3x larger than the sushi selection. They want to feel full and the only way to do that with sushi without breaking the bank is have tons of makis. To me though this just tells me that the place is basically buying very cheap fish and masking the quality problem by slathering it in sauces and rice.

[Samurai_Jerk]

To me though this just tells me that the place is basically buying very cheap fish and masking the quality problem by slathering it in sauces and rice.

I think it's more of a case of playing to their market and allowing people who don't really like raw fish to be able to pretend they do by disguising the flavor as much as possible. Fucking hipsters.

[2triky]

To me though this just tells me that the place is basically buying very cheap fish and masking the quality problem by slathering it in sauces and rice.

I think that is definitely the case with regard to many establishments.

[pheyton]

Satoru and Samurai are both correct. The quality here is horrible. And that is one of the reasons the tuna is "spicy" or the rolls are swimming in shitty sweet sauce. I've pretty much given up on sushi over here after being spoiled so many times by the inlaws in Japan.

[Greji]

i think all foods get adapted and localised when imported into other countries.

No "think" about Cyka. They have to taylor them to the local taste in order to sell. In some cases, the final product has little resemblence to the original no matter what country it comes from. Think back on your restaurant visits in Japan and there you go!

But then again, how would you know? You Russians only eat black bread and borscht, right?:p

[Dragonette]

I think the main problem in America is the fact that the maki menu is generally 2-3x larger than the sushi selection. They want to feel full and the only way to do that with sushi without breaking the bank is have tons of makis. To me though this just tells me that the place is basically buying very cheap fish and masking the quality problem by slathering it in sauces and rice.

At the sushi joints here, you can go either way; sit and order from the menu or sit at the counter and chat up the sushya-san. For my guy, that's the only way to go, and the selections are undeniably great, but the downside to that is...

a) He and sushiya-san generally get into a long, rambling conversation about what towns they came from, the price and scarcity of ankimo, etc., etc., and I just kind of sit there, smile, and throw in a few appreciative phrases...

b)I have no idea of the price until the check arrives, but it's always a major shock.

[Cyka UchuuJin]

No "think" about Cyka. They have to taylor them to the local taste in order to sell. In some cases, the final product has little resemblence to the original no matter what country it comes from. Think back on your restaurant visits in Japan and there you go!

But then again, how would you know? You Russians only eat black bread and borscht, right?:p

we're rather fond of pelmeni and pirozhki too.

[Greji]

we're rather fond of pelmeni and pirozhki too.

I may have to go to Dubai for business for a couple days next month, so I will consider buying some for you if you can drag your blond white ass out of the dark continent for one day (Take-chan sure has a way with words that I like). You can bring old what's his name with you, that is if you have unchained him from the wall and allow him outside in public these days!

[IkemenTommy]

American, Sushi, Real... now those three words do not belong in the same sentence.

[Samurai_Jerk]

You can get good sushi in major cities in the US if you're willing to pay for it. You definitely get much better value for your money in Japan but after having had the good stuff a few times I find most restaurants in Japan sub par too.

Ignorance truly is bliss.

[Molokidan]

This is kind of off-topic, but the topic reminded me and so I went to search, only to find nothing...what ever happened to those Sushi Poppers threads? They were great for a laugh.

[Taro Toporific]

...what ever happened to those Sushi Poppers threads? They were great for a laugh.

The Sushi Pooper people couldn't take a joke and ran away crying saying they going to tell on us, but here's their embarrassing video again.

[Mike Oxlong]

Mmm, nothing sez good maki-zushi like nori that hasn't been kept separated from the rice and is good and wet...

[Doctor Stop]

Mmm, nothing sez good maki-zushi like nori that hasn't been kept separated from the rice and is good and wet...

That can be fixed with a little biochemical engineering.

[Mike Oxlong]

I hear you can separate the two with a little wrapping expertise...

[Doctor Stop]

Put your faith in biochemical engineering.

[Mike Oxlong]

You're the doctor...

You go to a Carribean med school, too?:fresse:

[Kuang_Grade]

[Doctor Stop]

You go to a Carribean med school, too?fresse:

Funny you should ask. No, but I just came back from a conference on spin doctoring there.

[Kuang_Grade]

Uh oh, look out sushi popper, here comes pizza cone



http://www.eatmedaily.com/2009/07/coneinns-pizza-in-a-cone/

But we did pick up a pamphlet, and beyond the charming Engrish that promotes the "pleasant and acceptable smell and taste" of the Coneinn pizza cone, we learn of the six varieties: ham, ham and mushrooms, vegetables, margarita, tuna, and most bizarrely, four cheese, made from Emmental, cottage cheese, mozzarella, and blue cheese.

[Doctor Stop]

Uh oh, look out sushi popper, here comes pizza cone

http://www.konopizza.jp
http://www.konopizza.com

[TennoChinko]

The Sushi Pooper people couldn't take a joke and ran away crying saying they going to tell on us, but here's their embarrassing video again.

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Was I too mean?

If you combine the other elements of Lucas Furst's dodgy background (google him) - eg. movies, financing, and questionable claims about medical degrees and certifications - I am wondering aloud whether the whole one-man Internet media blitz for Sushi Popper was for another purpose.... specifically, to convince gullible investors that this venture was for real.

Think about it. A "nationwide rollout" in grocery stores throughout the US for a highly perishable product? Yuh huh - and I've got a bridge in NYC to sell you...

[Marked Trail]

The Sushi Pooper people couldn't take a joke

[IkemenTommy]

I am wondering aloud whether the whole one-man Internet media blitz for Sushi Popper was for another purpose.... specifically, to convince gullible investors that this venture was for real.

Think about it. A "nationwide rollout" in grocery stores throughout the US for a highly perishable product? Yuh huh - and I've got a bridge in NYC to sell you...

Ah shit! You know, I went to his information seminars and actually bought into his investment plan to cash out on "the big one." So are you telling me that all of that was a big fat scheme?

[Kuang_Grade]

http://www.konopizza.jp
http://www.konopizza.com

Prior to posting, I saw some konopizza videos on youtube, although coneinn also is setup to sell this in convenience stores/vending machines while konopizza seems more a restaurant only setup. I'm feeling bad about this, because clearly the US is losing the lead in the foods you can eat with one hand tech race...it has been a while since the US's last one handed food master stroke, the pancake/sausuage on a stick

[Doctor Stop]

From just looking at a photo of the box, I can taste the chemicals.

[Taro Toporific]

[Samurai_Jerk]

The sushi pooper once again rears its ugly head.