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Postby McTojo » Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:05 pm

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Quote the original article

Postby BigInJapan » Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:26 pm

McTojo wrote:Many of us have come from ethnically rich cultures...

The above appears to be a copy of text posted on this blog.
If you are the original author, either make that clear, or you should indicate that you are reposting and list the URL.
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Postby McTojo » Mon Mar 29, 2010 4:18 pm

BigInJapan wrote:The above appears to be a copy of text posted on this blog.
If you are the original author, either make that clear, or you should indicate that you are reposting and list the URL.

Yes. I am the original author from that blog and that content
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Postby Greji » Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:23 pm

McTojo wrote:Yes. I am the original author from that blog and that content


My only question is what are you saying. It had all bases covered and had me tuned up and ready to run to the loo for a wank and it just stopped. Is there a moral to the story? Is it part #1 of an NHK doc? Where do we go from here?
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Postby FG Lurker » Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:53 pm

I was going to attempt a reply too, but with so much bullshit in one place it was too much work to figure out where to start.
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Postby BO-SENSEI » Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:06 pm

FG Lurker wrote:I was going to attempt a reply too, but with so much bullshit in one place it was too much work to figure out where to start.

That was the same problem I had, I got ready to start my response but I had no idea where to start the ripping.
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Postby james » Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:37 pm

tl;dr
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Postby Catoneinutica » Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:45 pm

Your Post was very interesting. I like the Way you capitalize Nouns in a kind of Eighteenth Century Manner. Speaking of the multi-ethnic President Obama, it's interesting that in Brazil he would be considered white, but in the US he's considered black.

And when you speak of the Religious Right, it brings to Mind Al Qaeda and the Islamaniacs. They regularly use the Arabic Word for "Slaves" to refer to Black People.

But thank you for your Post. Can you help me "solve for Paul Hogan" in my Other Post on Aussies?
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Postby Takechanpoo » Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:04 am

It's what drew me here to Japan!

Japanophile Euro-American dudes always try to avoid refering to their reason of reason which made them approach Japan and Japanese in the first place. It seems like something untouchable for them. I do know that pretty well because I read hundreds of so-called Nihonjin-ron written by gaijjns in my university days. Frankly speaking, almost all of Japanophile Euro-American had been bullied or abused ruthlessly in their child period because of their appearances(being extraordinarily fat, short, thin), ethnics(being Jew, Arabic European), religions, or weird mentalities etc. But they always fabricate "dignified" reasons(Japanese culture, history or martial arts) with hindsight.
"I came to Japan because I like Japanese tea ceremony!"
"The reason I came here is Judo! Yeah!!!"
And they delete their "miserable" personal histories after came here and behave like a manly proud men despite the fact that they never can be in their home country.
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Postby Kuang_Grade » Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:30 am

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Postby nottu » Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:34 am

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Postby BO-SENSEI » Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:58 am

Kuang Grade, that line also pissed me off the most.

Seriously, did anyone else here come to Japan simply because of, as you put it, "Japan's largely mono-cultural, mono-racial, and mono-linguistic and religious elements, and is amazed at the level of harmony and natural balance that can be achieved by people of the same racial stock"?

I came for the beautiful scenery, cool temples, and neat history, and oh yeah, the food and chicks are nice too, it also kept me employed for two years. But what is great about history is just that, it is history, it is in the past, it is not coming back, the whole isolationist, mono-racial, mono-cultural Japan is history, and unfortunately that is still not recognized by many Japanese people.

Japan can't resist diversifying anymore than you can stop a tsunami, its going to fucking happen. Everyday I see more and more kids who are clearly have two different heritages and I feel bad for them knowing damn well that they are going to have it tough growing up in Japan.
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Postby Coligny » Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:01 am

BO-SENSEI wrote:Kuang Grade, that line also pissed me off the most.

Seriously, did anyone else here come to Japan simply because of, as you put it, "Japan's largely mono-cultural, mono-racial, and mono-linguistic and religious elements, and is amazed at the level of harmony and natural balance that can be achieved by people of the same racial stock"?

I came for the beautiful scenery, cool temples, and neat history, and oh yeah, the food and chicks are nice too, it also kept me employed for two years. But what is great about history is just that, it is history, it is in the past, it is not coming back, the whole isolationist, mono-racial, mono-cultural Japan is history, and unfortunately that is still not recognized by many Japanese people.


At least you got an answer for that question...

I'm still searching...

This planet sucks anyway...
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Postby McTojo » Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:22 am

Takechanpoo wrote:Japanophile Euro-American dudes always try to avoid refering to their reason of reason which made them approach Japan and Japanese in the first place. It seems like something untouchable for them. I do know that pretty well because I read hundreds of so-called Nihonjin-ron written by gaijjns in my university days. Frankly speaking, almost all of Japanophile Euro-American had been bullied or abused ruthlessly in their child period because of their appearances(being extraordinarily fat, short, thin), ethnics(being Jew, Arabic European), religions, or weird mentalities etc. But they always fabricate "dignified" reasons(Japanese culture, history or martial arts) with hindsight.
"I came to Japan because I like Japanese tea ceremony!"
"The reason I came here is Judo! Yeah!!!"
And they delete their "miserable" personal histories after came here and behave like a manly proud men despite the fact that they never can be in their home country.


Your comments are unfair to the majority of foreigners who come here. I have experienced a lot of let downs both in American AND Japan! But I rise above them and I stay positive. Many foreigners have deep seated spiritual needs to the arts and cultural refinement, so they travel the world in search of that. For most, Japan seems to be the most appealing and accommodating for most foreign tourist. Here in Japan modern technology is beautiful harmonized with nature. 30,000 Japanese kill themselves every year in Japan for stupid reasons, so to me, those are the real losers, not the gaijin who moves to Japan to better himself.
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Iron Laws of History

Postby McTojo » Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:27 am

BO-SENSEI wrote:Kuang Grade, that line also pissed me off the most.

Seriously, did anyone else here come to Japan simply because of, as you put it, "Japan's largely mono-cultural, mono-racial, and mono-linguistic and religious elements, and is amazed at the level of harmony and natural balance that can be achieved by people of the same racial stock"?

I came for the beautiful scenery, cool temples, and neat history, and oh yeah, the food and chicks are nice too, it also kept me employed for two years. But what is great about history is just that, it is history, it is in the past, it is not coming back, the whole isolationist, mono-racial, mono-cultural Japan is history, and unfortunately that is still not recognized by many Japanese people.

Japan can't resist diversifying anymore than you can stop a tsunami, its going to fucking happen. Everyday I see more and more kids who are clearly have two different heritages and I feel bad for them knowing damn well that they are going to have it tough growing up in Japan.



History always repeats itself, that's why we learn from them we don't confine it to the past. You seem to not have learned anything. Japan can resist diversifying, it does it everyday quite naturally, thank you. The fact that the country was shut down and closed off for so long during seclusion is what allowed the arts to flourish and this beautiful country that you have come to appreciate. That's your first lesson. And leave Japanese women alone. They all belong to me.
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Postby Greji » Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:32 am

BO-SENSEI wrote:I feel bad for them knowing damn well that they are going to have it tough growing up in Japan.


There are bad points and good points. After college, two of my brood decided to live in Japan, so it couldn't have been all that bad to them. The rest of the brood went to the states and claim they miss Japan and would like to return some day (jobs/marriage proclude this).
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Isn't Always...?

Postby McTojo » Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:33 am

Kuang_Grade wrote:Well, I can easily take a stab at this.....

I think your comments on the US are well framed by your ignorance of the fact that the US attorney general is an appointed position, not an elected one.


Ah, it is all about you then? All these other dirty gaijin are wreaking your own personal fantasy about your private japan?.....that only you, in your infinite wisdom, can divine the 'soul of japan'...or at least much more so than other gaijin, and probably more so than a young J freeter working at lawsons who, unlike oh, pretty much everyone else in modern capitalistic societies, can ignore his or her own personal alienation from a society that clearly doesn't give two shits about them because they can always fall back on the societal manna that is wa. Right......


I know Mr Holder was appointed but not without being properly vetted! So he was in a way elected. But that is so trivial....

Isn't it always about "ME" "You" "I"....? I define my experiences in Japan as the most treasured and most beautiful things Japan has to offer. I am the truest Japan aficionado and love Japan more than a lot of Japanese do. My blog is full of this passion: Yasukuni, Jukujo, nihonshu, onsen, Temples and cuisines. Truly the purest essence of Japan.
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Postby Greji » Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:50 am

McTojo wrote:I know Mr Holder was appointed but not without being properly vetted! So he was in a way elected. But that is so trivial....

Isn't it always about "ME" "You" "I"....? I define my experiences in Japan as the most treasured and most beautiful things Japan has to offer. I am the truest Japan aficionado and love Japan more than a lot of Japanese do. My blog is full of this passion: Yasukuni, Jukujo, nihonshu, onsen, Temples and cuisines. Truly the purest essence of Japan.


Hang around here Mc! You'll learn about a few experiences that aren't in the aficionado's handbook....
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Postby FG Lurker » Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:27 pm

McTojo wrote:Truly the purest essence of Japan.

:rofl:

The purest essence of Japan is the oh-so-temporary relief of YBF, and then the hunt for the next way to get said relief.
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Postby leitmotiv » Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:24 pm

McTojo wrote:I am the truest Japan aficionado and love Japan more than a lot of Japanese do. My blog is full of this passion: Yasukuni, Jukujo, nihonshu, onsen, Temples and cuisines. Truly the purest essence of Japan.


Clever. Withering self-parody nested within a larger piss-take. I am impressed now.
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Postby BO-SENSEI » Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:08 pm

McTojo wrote:History always repeats itself, that's why we learn from them we don't confine it to the past. You seem to not have learned anything. Japan can resist diversifying, it does it everyday quite naturally, thank you. The fact that the country was shut down and closed off for so long during seclusion is what allowed the arts to flourish and this beautiful country that you have come to appreciate. That's your first lesson. And leave Japanese women alone. They all belong to me.


You have seriously lost your mind, no way in the modern world could Japan survive economically off domestic demand alone. Shutting itself off to the world be like trying to stop breathing. I could just imagine how Japanese girls would feel if they were not allowed to buy Louis Vuitton bags anymore. Not to mention close off ties with the Americans, I could just imagine what would happen to the Kuril Islands or the oil fields off Okinawa if America ever says "good luck, you're on your own." The American military is the only reason why Japan barks at the China and Russia.

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Which part?
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Postby McTojo » Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:26 pm

BO-SENSEI wrote:You have seriously lost your fucking mind, no way in the modern world could Japan survive economically off domestic demand alone. Shutting itself off to the world be like trying to stop breathing. I could just imagine how Japanese girls would feel if they were not allowed to buy Louis Vuitton bags anymore. Not to mention close off ties with the Americans, I could just imagine what would happen to the Kuril Islands or the oil fields off Okinawa if America ever says "good luck, you're on your own." The American military is the only reason why Japan barks at the China and Russia.


From history to economics...? Arts....economics...? I was only giving you a point of reference and in turn you throw come at me like this??? I am not advocating seclusion, but more action on a political with a focus on internal policy changes that this country needs to take in order to preserve what's left. Japan doesn't have to open up entirely to the world either and thank goodness it hasn't so far. Some concessions here and there is all that's needed. The Cold War is over!
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Postby james » Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:11 am

McTojo wrote:I was only giving you a point of reference and in turn you throw come at me like this???


i doubt he'd throw it per se. some of us have suspicions about his inclinations so he may take a more direct approach in his delivery method ;)
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Postby Dragonette » Thu Apr 01, 2010 2:08 am

FG Lurker wrote::rofl:

The purest essence of Japan is the oh-so-temporary relief of YBF, and then the hunt for the next way to get said relief.

Not so, methinks for Tojo-chan...
After checking out these posts, methinks that he has an even worse case of YF - (the "C" strain) than even I ever had, (It takes one to know one), with a little S/M thrown in as well. Trust me, it's incurable!

Maybe now you guys will stop picking on Bo-sen...
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Postby Ganma » Thu Apr 01, 2010 2:34 am

McTojo wrote: And leave Japanese women alone. They all belong to me.

After all that long winded bull we finally come to the truth. McTojo came here to fuck just like the rest of us. Your game is up troll!
Many foreigners have deep seated spiritual needs to the arts and cultural refinement, so they travel the world in search of that.

Most hilarious statement ever. Firstly, you're referring to people as foreigners. Are you Japanese? Or perhaps you just think you are.
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Postby Typhoon » Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:51 am

Ganma wrote: . . .

Most hilarious statement ever. Firstly, you're referring to people as foreigners. Are you Japanese? Or perhaps you just think you are.


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Postby Kuang_Grade » Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:21 pm

McTojo wrote:Isn't it always about "ME" "You" "I"....? I define my experiences in Japan as the most treasured and most beautiful things Japan has to offer. I am the truest Japan aficionado and love Japan more than a lot of Japanese do.

Let's give it up for the Last Samurai, folks. Jokers like this are exactly the kind of fools who, when visiting some temple or another, you know the ones that the Japanese revered so deeply that they stuck a trash incinerator right next to it, will say something like 'oh, didn't they do a super job integrating the modern and spiritual by making sure the smokestack was in the right position not to dominate the temple.' Hell, the gaijin anime freakazoids are a more tolerable lot because, deep down, they know all the stuff they like about Japan is made up BS (or at least the ones without serious mental problems), but clowns like McTojo just drink their own self made kool aid about how only they are the beautiful and unique snowflake necessary to appreciate the one true J aesthetic.

McTojo wrote:Japan doesn't have to open up entirely to the world either and thank goodness it hasn't so far. Some concessions here and there is all that's needed. The Cold War is over!

It may be true that the cold war is over, but as far as the Chinese are concerned, WW2 isn't exactly over. Given the current gender split in Chinese births, I can see one of the concessions China will be looking for in about 10-20 years will be "Umm, remember all those Chinese comfort women you expropriated back in WW2? Yeah, well we are kind of short on women at the moment, and with interest and penalties, let say you just give us every J female between 18 and 44 and and we will totally not cut off your food supply."
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