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Postby J.A.F.O » Sat May 04, 2013 7:28 pm

Anyone ever have a subluxated rib? and if you did how did you translate into japanese? Right now I am stuck with "dislocated rib joint"
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Re: Need a medical word in japanese

Postby Coligny » Sat May 04, 2013 8:08 pm

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Re: Need a medical word in japanese

Postby J.A.F.O » Sat May 04, 2013 10:56 pm

It would be more interesting if you were a gynecologist, probably more fun too.

Just the idiots around me think I'm having a mild heart attack. Which in turn is sending the wife in a tizzy. Because I obviously I have no idea what I'm talking about... which is mostly true come to think about it, but I know I'm not having a heart attack.
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Re: Need a medical word in japanese

Postby Russell » Sat May 04, 2013 11:30 pm

J.A.F.O wrote:It would be more interesting if you were a gynecologist, probably more fun too.

Just the idiots around me think I'm having a mild heart attack. Which in turn is sending the wife in a tizzy. Because I obviously I have no idea what I'm talking about... which is mostly true come to think about it, but I know I'm not having a heart attack.

Why don't you go to the hospital to check it out?

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Re: Need a medical word in japanese

Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Sun May 05, 2013 7:32 am

J.A.F.O wrote:Anyone ever have a subluxated rib? and if you did how did you translate into japanese? Right now I am stuck with "dislocated rib joint"


I would say rokkotsu ga dakyu shita, based on "sublaxated" meaning dislocated, but I've never heard of a dislocated rib (unless it's dislocation has been to rip off completely).
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Re: Need a medical word in japanese

Postby Coligny » Sun May 05, 2013 9:24 am

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Re: Need a medical word in japanese

Postby Isle of View » Sun May 05, 2013 10:20 am

J.A.F.O wrote:It would be more interesting if you were a gynecologist, probably more fun too.

Just the idiots around me think I'm having a mild heart attack. Which in turn is sending the wife in a tizzy. Because I obviously I have no idea what I'm talking about... which is mostly true come to think about it, but I know I'm not having a heart attack.


Whatever you have, it's not a "sublaxted rib".

Rather than self-diagnosis, suggest you have it checked out. Chest pains are a warning symptom with many underlying causes including a warning sign of a future heart attack.

One example I personally know of is chest pain that turned out to be due to a relatively rare mycoplasma pneumonia and lead to a collapsed lung.
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Re: Need a medical word in japanese

Postby J.A.F.O » Sun May 05, 2013 11:38 am

I appreciate the concerns, its just that I have had this happen half a dozen times in the last 15 years. Back stateside I went to a D.O. and he called it a subluxated rib. I am not disagreeing with you Isle of View but that's what he called it so its the only thing I know to call it.

I wasn't really trying to bore everyone with my past little details, and I have had horrible experiences with doctors here.

A lighthearted example:
I smashed my foot and broke the small two toes on my right foot. After turning purple and black the wife convinced me to go to the hospital. To which I waited 3 hrs in a waiting room who then wanted an X-ray. Which I explained that even if they are broken what are you going to do? You can't cast them. The treatment would be the same with or without the x-ray. All I needed was some pain killers. So after waiting even longer the "doctor" prescribed acetaminophen. I can pick this up at the local drugstore for less than 1000 yen in less than 10 minutes. I spend a half a day in a hospital to get something I can get over the counter. My time is far more valuable and important to me.

So this is one of many things, The veterinarians here make more sense than the doctors. I don't know much about korean doctors but at this point a witch doctor would be a more appealable alternative. I half expect the doctors here to prescribe bloodletting out the demons... Which I'm sure there are a plenty but doubt that's the best way to get rid of them.

Thanks SDH and Coligny for the translations. Going to a chiropractor this afternoon. If he says its not my ribs I'll go to the doc. And I apologise if I come off as petulant but I didn't sleep well and can't sit or breath right.
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Re: Need a medical word in japanese

Postby nikoneko » Sun May 05, 2013 12:22 pm

Okay not to be rude but you would choose a chiropractor over a licensed medical doctor? When you are in pain and can't sit or sleep right? That is just down right silly man. Find the closest modern looking 外科 clinic and take a native speaker with you. Go in explain what the problem is and let them figure it out.

FWIW while I have been here I have been diagnosed and treated for Rheumatoid Arthritis, dealt with the ongoing problems I will have the rest of my life from it such as my back going out at random fun intervals, was diagnosed as needing and had surgery for a deviated septum here, two cracked ribs, got stitches in my forehead just last week as a matter of fact, on and on and I have never had anything but incredible care at any step of the way.

Go to a real doctor and get help fast. I will be in constant pain for the rest of my life and I don't fuck around with silliness and complaining, if you get bad care go to the next guy.
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Re: Need a medical word in japanese

Postby Coligny » Sun May 05, 2013 2:21 pm

Okay not to be rude but you would choose a chiropractor over a licensed medical doctor?


I think you miss his whole explanation on troubles with the local white coat hacks...

I can also 100% vouch for local vets over MD's...

I have tooth pain for one month... already went 3 times to the dentist over this problem... but for the last month I'm running on loxonin every 3 hours night and day... problem... i'm running out of dentists in this town...

Also... SK doctors, from my little experience with 5 of them over a travelling week with food poisonning... just kick asses...

Also... more... J docs might be the only ones on this planet not taking the hippocratic oath and fully able to lie to you in your face.
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Re: Need a medical word in japanese

Postby Russell » Sun May 05, 2013 5:21 pm

nikoneko wrote:Okay not to be rude but you would choose a chiropractor over a licensed medical doctor? When you are in pain and can't sit or sleep right? That is just down right silly man. Find the closest modern looking 外科 clinic and take a native speaker with you. Go in explain what the problem is and let them figure it out.

FWIW while I have been here I have been diagnosed and treated for Rheumatoid Arthritis, dealt with the ongoing problems I will have the rest of my life from it such as my back going out at random fun intervals, was diagnosed as needing and had surgery for a deviated septum here, two cracked ribs, got stitches in my forehead just last week as a matter of fact, on and on and I have never had anything but incredible care at any step of the way.

Go to a real doctor and get help fast. I will be in constant pain for the rest of my life and I don't fuck around with silliness and complaining, if you get bad care go to the next guy.

Nikoneko, sorry to hear about your medical problems.

BTW, did you move to Hiroshima recently?
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Re: Need a medical word in japanese

Postby nikoneko » Sun May 05, 2013 8:58 pm

Coligny wrote:I think you miss his whole explanation on troubles with the local white coat hacks...

I can also 100% vouch for local vets over MD's...

Well no I didn't, my point was to keep looking around, there is outstanding medical care here if you are willing to fight for it. When I was first diagnosed with RA the guy started looking for a specialist who spoke English, we told him no we want somebody good. Got directed to one of the tops in Japan. Same thing with my surgery, we just pushed until we got to the best in the area. Now granted this was in Kobe which is known for medical care but we have had good fortune here in Hiroshima-ken too with anything we need, just don't take BS as an answer.

Russell wrote:Nikoneko, sorry to hear about your medical problems.

BTW, did you move to Hiroshima recently?

I'm doing all right we caught the bad stuff early and I can kick butt as well as the next guy. Just my hands might hurt a bit more after maybe. Yep we moved back to the wife's hometown about a month ago. We love Kobe and hope to come back some day, but with a small child alone in Kansai and zero support network from family it got to be just too much in a lot ways. Paying ¥18000 a month for parking being a good example lol.
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Re: Need a medical word in japanese

Postby J.A.F.O » Mon May 06, 2013 12:39 pm

I had my back adjusted and am doing a lot better, I no longer have a deep fear of sneezing. I really do appreciate the concerns from everyone, Russel, Nikoneko. I wish I could keep going on until I find the right doctor here, However after going through half a dozen with the same god complex the proposition scares me.

If I hadn't been through this before I would have less reservations about receiving care I think.

I do at least have a reasonable dentist here, trained stateside and listens to requests. Hope you find a better one Coligny.
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Re: Need a medical word in japanese

Postby Mike Oxlong » Mon May 06, 2013 1:30 pm

IIRC, you live in a prefecture of worsts, and that definitely extends to the quality of medical care.
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Re: Need a medical word in japanese

Postby J.A.F.O » Sat May 11, 2013 12:26 pm

Mike Oxlong wrote:IIRC, you live in a prefecture of worsts, and that definitely extends to the quality of medical care.


I don't recall mentioning my prefecture but your pretty sagacious in your observations Mike. Prefecture of worsts indeed.
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Re: Need a medical word in japanese

Postby gaijinpunch » Mon May 13, 2013 3:57 pm

This is the problem w/ those big medical words.

You'll find it out and one of two things will happen
1) The doctor won't know the word
2) The doctor will know the word but have no fucking clue how to treat it
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Re: Need a medical word in japanese

Postby wagyl » Mon May 13, 2013 6:04 pm

I was going to hold my tongue here, but it got all dry and leathery.

I very very strongly suspect that what you seek is not a medical word but a chiropractic word. These disciplines are not the same: each side will gladly confirm that opinion.

Speaking generally, many of the more elderly, experienced medical practitioners in Japan studied their medicine in German, so if you know the scheisse fausting schplitzing terminology you will be home and hosed in the medical field.
Chiropractic, having been developed by a magnetic healer in Davenport Iowa, has always been taught based on English Language texts, and your ribs may be subluxed as fulsomely here as anywhere else and the message should get through.
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Re: Need a medical word in japanese

Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Mon May 13, 2013 6:42 pm

wagyl wrote:...many of the more elderly, experienced medical practitioners in Japan studied their medicine in German, so if you know the scheisse fausting schplitzing terminology you will be home and hosed in the medical field...


Jah, das ist gud, mein fruend! :biggrin2:
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Re: Need a medical word in japanese

Postby omae mona » Mon May 13, 2013 9:32 pm

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:
wagyl wrote:...many of the more elderly, experienced medical practitioners in Japan studied their medicine in German, so if you know the scheisse fausting schplitzing terminology you will be home and hosed in the medical field...


Jah, das ist gud, mein fruend! :biggrin2:


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Re: Need a medical word in japanese

Postby wagyl » Mon May 13, 2013 10:19 pm

omae mona wrote:new meme

The sneaky conniving bastard that runs 3yen has started hiding that phrase on his site, aiming for Google hit supremacy.
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Re: Need a medical word in japanese

Postby J.A.F.O » Tue May 14, 2013 10:57 am

wagyl wrote:I was going to hold my tongue here, but it got all dry and leathery.

I very very strongly suspect that what you seek is not a medical word but a chiropractic word. These disciplines are not the same: each side will gladly confirm that opinion.

Speaking generally, many of the more elderly, experienced medical practitioners in Japan studied their medicine in German, so if you know the scheisse fausting schplitzing terminology you will be home and hosed in the medical field.
Chiropractic, having been developed by a magnetic healer in Davenport Iowa, has always been taught based on English Language texts, and your ribs may be subluxed as fulsomely here as anywhere else and the message should get through.


Actually that D.O. I mentioned earlier was the one who said go to a chiropractor if it happens again. I found out that D.O. (doctors of osteopathic medicine) are M.D.'s plus. They need 4 years of additional medical training.

I never thought to go to a chiropractor until he mentioned it. Said they can they can do the same thing he did without shelling out the extra 50 - 100 bones per visit.

Again all I was trying to do was get my japanese .... friends? and family to leave me the freak alone by trying to explain to them in a language they understand what the hell was going on. I never had many intentions to go to a doctor here.

I think I am slowly realizing what Gaijinpunch is driving at, in which case I don't think I am even gonna try.

I failed German horribly. I think it may be a bleeding waste of time trying to learn another language (badly) to try and explain to a doctor who only speaks a different language that I stumble through (badly) to get an opinion that I probably won't follow.
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Re: Need a medical word in japanese

Postby matsuki » Tue May 14, 2013 11:34 am

Japanese doctors...

Today it was a sore throat, last time a cold, before that I don't even remember but no matter the issue or symptoms....every single time I go to the doctor here. I get prescribed the same exact 5 day regimen of Cravit, Karonol, and Fusukode(sp?) Usually the meds seem effective so while I can't really complain...can't help but think this seems like the mindless over prescribing mentality that leads to all the drug resistant strains of nasty in Japan.
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Postby GomiGirl » Tue May 14, 2013 11:46 am

Why are you taking meds for a cold or a sore throat? :???:

The meds are doing NOTHING - viruses only last 5 days or so on their own. Get some cold and flu tabs over the counter to minimise the symptoms and just wait out the time.

The doctor is giving you stuff to keep you happy - don't go and let him over charge the national health system (sorry Colligny and Canman). Only go to doctors when you are really sick.
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Re: Need a medical word in japanese

Postby Coligny » Tue May 14, 2013 12:56 pm

Pumpkin, me bitch is on the payroll of the city hospital. And you can see it by the lack of Mercedes Benz in my parking...
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Tue May 14, 2013 1:20 pm

Coligny wrote:Pumpkin, me bitch is on the payroll of the city hospital. And you can see it by the lack of Mercedes Benz in my parking...


Remind me again what century it was when you last worked....
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Postby wagyl » Tue May 14, 2013 1:59 pm

J.A.F.O wrote:Again all I was trying to do was get my japanese .... friends? and family to leave me the freak alone by trying to explain to them in a language they understand what the hell was going on. I never had many intentions to go to a doctor here.


OK, Cool, I am glad that is now clear to me. In that case, SDH's layman-friendly description should be best. Then again, your average native-English speaker will just as likely do a WTF if you said subluxated rib to them too.

There is a different medical culture within even the English speaking countries, so naturally the culture differs between your home country and here. The style and standard of training expected for Chiropractors, Osteopaths and Medical Practitioners differs greatly from one country to another, and I do not think they should be ranked: each is a separate field addressing different issues and with different focus.
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Postby Coligny » Tue May 14, 2013 2:03 pm

I don't see the link with the income delta between private clinic doctors and those working in public hospitals.

When she was doing research work she was allowed part time private jobs. a 48 h week end shift mostly spent watching TV was paid more than half the city hosp monthly salary who include 4 nights and one week end shift.

Now we got 2 cats...wanna blame them for not getting a job too ?

I never said we only got bicycles... but just like the german proeficiency thing which let me a bit confused i sometimes feel like we're not talking aboot the same movie despite having the same title...
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Tue May 14, 2013 2:15 pm

Coligny wrote:I don't see the link with the income delta between private clinic doctors and those working in public hospitals.


I was only being facetious...I haven't worked for years, either.

Working for the government in Japan usually includes a requirement to refrain from taking on any other employment.
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Re: Need a medical word in japanese

Postby wagyl » Tue May 14, 2013 2:33 pm

Coligny wrote:just like the german proeficiency thing which let me a bit confused

I am willing to bet that your father-in-law was required to study German as a prerequisite for his studies. Whether you are happy receiving medical care from someone of your father-in-law's vintage based on the learning they received back in those dark ages is another matter, but there are times when knowledge of how a condition is described in German is a great hint as to what it will be called in Japan.
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Tue May 14, 2013 2:37 pm

What's the German for bukkake?
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