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Re: 'Super Cool Biz' campaign officially kicks-off

Postby Wage Slave » Fri May 02, 2014 5:03 pm

Russell wrote:As an aside, I read somewhere that setting your aircon in the "remove humidity mode" consumes quite a lot of power, to the extent that it is apparently advised to switch it to regular cooling mode.

Is this true, and, if so, why?


I don't know if it's true or not. Reading up quickly, I see that dehumidify mode causes the compressor to cycle more frequently than in cooling mode. Perhaps high surge current at repeated start up may negatively affect economy to the point you would be better off just using it in cooling mode and be done with it?

Dehumidify mode is recommended when you are happy with the temperature but just need the humidity pulled down to be comfortable. It should use less power than full on cooling because the compressor doesn't need to run in long bursts.
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Re: 'Super Cool Biz' campaign officially kicks-off

Postby Coligny » Fri May 02, 2014 5:07 pm

Russell wrote:As an aside, I read somewhere that setting your aircon in the "remove humidity mode" consumes quite a lot of power, to the extent that it is apparently advised to switch it to regular cooling mode.

Is this true, and, if so, why?


Humidity removal use the compressor but not for cooling purpose (while still being a side effect) Might be possible to consider it as the aircon idle / base power use... Hot air hitting cooled surface/fins trigger water condensation -> removal of humidity
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Re: 'Super Cool Biz' campaign officially kicks-off

Postby Wage Slave » Fri May 02, 2014 5:18 pm

The other thing is that the fan speed is reduced allowing the air to linger longer on the cool fins and so shed more water.

If the room temperature is (say) 28 but it still feels uncomfortable then perhaps it is worth running the aircon in dehumidify rather than cooling mode. We do a few times a year in the early and late summer. Whether it really saves much power I wouldn't like to say. It might well use more than cooling mode that isn't kicking in properly but the room is more comfortable.
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Re: 'Super Cool Biz' campaign officially kicks-off

Postby Coligny » Fri May 02, 2014 6:27 pm

Wage Slave wrote:The other thing is that the fan speed is reduced allowing the air to linger longer on the cool fins and so shed more water.


Not sure if it's slower or faster, depend on the humidity level, I often had an icing issue with a window aircon (600W model 8 tatamis) the inside radiator gets completely clogged with snow cutting all air circulation. The condensed water don't drip fast enough or there is not enough to trigger a proper drain and stay on the fins and freeze...
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Re: 'Super Cool Biz' campaign officially kicks-off

Postby Wage Slave » Fri May 02, 2014 6:35 pm

Coligny wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:The other thing is that the fan speed is reduced allowing the air to linger longer on the cool fins and so shed more water.


Not sure if it's slower or faster, depend on the humidity level, I often had an icing issue with a window aircon (600W model 8 tatamis) the inside radiator gets completely clogged with snow cutting all air circulation. The condensed water don't drip fast enough or there is not enough to trigger a proper drain and stay on the fins and freeze...


600W sounds a bit underpowered for 8 tatamis? That might be causing the problem - compressor working too hard on too small an evaporator, fins too cold, ice forms, airflow restricted, vicious circle starts.
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Re: 'Super Cool Biz' campaign officially kicks-off

Postby Coligny » Fri May 02, 2014 6:37 pm

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Re: 'Super Cool Biz' campaign officially kicks-off

Postby Taro Toporific » Fri May 30, 2014 5:06 pm

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Super Cool Biz begins on Sat... http://t.co/KrXCmDyIWL ... But an early start in Shinjuku. pic.twitter.com/Gee8dc5A04
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Re: 'Super Cool Biz' campaign officially kicks-off

Postby wuchan » Fri May 30, 2014 11:30 pm

73f = 23c

28c = 82.4f

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Re: 'Super Cool Biz' campaign officially kicks-off

Postby matsuki » Sat May 31, 2014 12:02 am

wuchan wrote:73f = 23c

28c = 82.4f

barbarians know nothing....


See, but that's gaijin productivity...Japanese productivity is independently shitty regardless of temperature.
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Re: 'Super Cool Biz' campaign officially kicks-off

Postby Wage Slave » Sat May 31, 2014 12:20 am

That graph uses the old incomplete axis trick. At 28 degrees C performance falls 5% from the maximum, which counts, but isn't dramatic.

I had a quick look at the paper it is based on. It was work done in Helsinki - Isn't it reasonable to suspect that Finnish workers are less unaccustomed to working in temperatures over 24 degrees? The average high there in July is 19 degrees. In February it is -1. Don't even ask about the lows.

The paper also doesn't say anything about dress. Given that Japanese people are more accustomed to higher temperatures - try working in a public school - and that dress regulations have been relaxed I venture that 28 degrees with reasonable humidity probably affects productivity by no more than a couple of percent at most.

And, there is serious shortage of power in Japan at present as 40% or so of capacity is off line. So, I think it makes sense and makes even more sense at the moment.
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Re: 'Super Cool Biz' campaign officially kicks-off

Postby Coligny » Sat May 31, 2014 1:14 am

Wage Slave wrote:And, there is serious shortage of power in Japan at present as 40% or so of capacity is off line.


And not a single blackout despite record high summer temp...
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Re: 'Super Cool Biz' campaign officially kicks-off

Postby matsuki » Sat May 31, 2014 9:36 am

Coligny wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:And, there is serious shortage of power in Japan at present as 40% or so of capacity is off line.


And not a single blackout despite record high summer temp...


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Postby Hijinx » Sat May 31, 2014 9:44 am

Wage Slave wrote:The paper also doesn't say anything about dress. Given that Japanese people are more accustomed to higher temperatures - try working in a public school - and that dress regulations have been relaxed I venture that 28 degrees with reasonable humidity probably affects productivity by no more than a couple of percent at most.

And, there is serious shortage of power in Japan at present as 40% or so of capacity is off line. So, I think it makes sense and makes even more sense at the moment.



Eff that! I keep my office at 23 all summer, and I'm still highly unproductive. 28? I would go into negative productivity.
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Re: 'Super Cool Biz' campaign officially kicks-off

Postby wuchan » Sat May 31, 2014 10:09 am

chokonen888 wrote:
wuchan wrote:73f = 23c

28c = 82.4f

barbarians know nothing....


See, but that's gaijin productivity...Japanese productivity is independently shitty regardless of temperature.


An unforseen complication....

Wage Slave wrote:That graph uses the old incomplete axis trick. At 28 degrees C performance falls 5% from the maximum, which counts, but isn't dramatic.

I had a quick look at the paper it is based on. It was work done in Helsinki - Isn't it reasonable to suspect that Finnish workers are less unaccustomed to working in temperatures over 24 degrees? The average high there in July is 19 degrees. In February it is -1. Don't even ask about the lows.

The paper also doesn't say anything about dress. Given that Japanese people are more accustomed to higher temperatures - try working in a public school - and that dress regulations have been relaxed I venture that 28 degrees with reasonable humidity probably affects productivity by no more than a couple of percent at most.

And, there is serious shortage of power in Japan at present as 40% or so of capacity is off line. So, I think it makes sense and makes even more sense at the moment.


The 40% shortage can easily be taken care of by cutting the lights like the week after the big quake and totally banning pachinko. Turning off airconditioners in unused corners of office buildings actually uses more energy than keeping the building at 23c all year because the ones still on have to work harder to keep the temp no matter what they are set at.
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Postby Hijinx » Sat May 31, 2014 10:24 am

wuchan wrote:
The 40% shortage can easily be taken care of by cutting the lights like the week after the big quake and totally banning pachinko. Turning off airconditioners in unused corners of office buildings actually uses more energy than keeping the building at 23c all year because the ones still on have to work harder to keep the temp no matter what they are set at.



I agree. It's one of these things where it's all up to the people while industry does nothing.

I just read something that said that in California, personal water use accounts for only 4%. So I'll flush my toilet as many times as I feel, thank you. And that by abstaining from eating one pound of meat is the equivalent of not showering for six months.
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Re: 'Super Cool Biz' campaign officially kicks-off

Postby Coligny » Sat May 31, 2014 11:20 am

Hijinx wrote: And that by abstaining from eating one pound of meat is the equivalent of not showering for six months.


Hey, I could live there !
I'll take your meat ration...
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:41 am

Wage Slave wrote:That graph uses the old incomplete axis trick. At 28 degrees C performance falls 5% from the maximum, which counts, but isn't dramatic.

I had a quick look at the paper it is based on. It was work done in Helsinki - Isn't it reasonable to suspect that Finnish workers are less unaccustomed to working in temperatures over 24 degrees? The average high there in July is 19 degrees. In February it is -1. Don't even ask about the lows.

The paper also doesn't say anything about dress. Given that Japanese people are more accustomed to higher temperatures - try working in a public school - and that dress regulations have been relaxed I venture that 28 degrees with reasonable humidity probably affects productivity by no more than a couple of percent at most.

And, there is serious shortage of power in Japan at present as 40% or so of capacity is off line. So, I think it makes sense and makes even more sense at the moment.


I'm too lazy to Google it but I read an article a year or two ago that stated they've seen productivity fall at companies that implement Cool Biz and that a lot companies end up using more energy because so many employees buy desk fans to try to keep cool. Even without Cool Biz Japanese offices are too hot and Japanese women, attention whores that they are, love to bitch and moan about the cold all summer long. We have to fight at my office to keep the AC at 25 degrees even though 90% of team thinks it's too hot and would rather keep it at 23. One of the girls keeps an electric heat pad on her seat and covers up with an electric blanket when she's at her desk and repeatedly complains to the bosses. I really don't think women belong in the workplace unless it's the sex industry.
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Re: 'Super Cool Biz' campaign officially kicks-off

Postby Wage Slave » Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:48 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:I'm too lazy to Google it but I read an article a year or two ago that stated they've seen productivity fall at companies that implement Cool Biz and that a lot companies end up using more energy because so many employees buy desk fans to try to keep cool. Even without Cool Biz Japanese offices are too hot and Japanese women, attention whores that they are, love to bitch and moan about the cold all summer long. We have to fight at my office to keep the AC at 25 degrees even though 90% of team thinks it's too hot and would rather keep it at 23. One of the girls keeps an electric heat pad on her seat and covers up with an electric blanket when she's at her desk and repeatedly complains to the bosses. I really don't think women belong in the workplace unless it's the sex industry.


Well that's it then. There is no way anyone can match that level of intellectual rigour and evidence based argument. :-D
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Re: 'Super Cool Biz' campaign officially kicks-off

Postby IparryU » Sun Jun 01, 2014 3:17 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:That graph uses the old incomplete axis trick. At 28 degrees C performance falls 5% from the maximum, which counts, but isn't dramatic.

I had a quick look at the paper it is based on. It was work done in Helsinki - Isn't it reasonable to suspect that Finnish workers are less unaccustomed to working in temperatures over 24 degrees? The average high there in July is 19 degrees. In February it is -1. Don't even ask about the lows.

The paper also doesn't say anything about dress. Given that Japanese people are more accustomed to higher temperatures - try working in a public school - and that dress regulations have been relaxed I venture that 28 degrees with reasonable humidity probably affects productivity by no more than a couple of percent at most.

And, there is serious shortage of power in Japan at present as 40% or so of capacity is off line. So, I think it makes sense and makes even more sense at the moment.


I'm too lazy to Google it but I read an article a year or two ago that stated they've seen productivity fall at companies that implement Cool Biz and that a lot companies end up using more energy because so many employees buy desk fans to try to keep cool. Even without Cool Biz Japanese offices are too hot and Japanese women, attention whores that they are, love to bitch and moan about the cold all summer long. We have to fight at my office to keep the AC at 25 degrees even though 90% of team thinks it's too hot and would rather keep it at 23. One of the girls keeps an electric heat pad on her seat and covers up with an electric blanket when she's at her desk and repeatedly complains to the bosses. I really don't think women belong in the workplace unless it's the sex industry.

Thats when you get the rest of the ladies in the office that dont dress like they are going clubbing or work at a kabakura to bitch them out. Make a decent scene about dressing warmer and don't waste the electricity, throw in some stats about the majority of the office want it cooler and using electric pads and blankets is going to impose nuclear usage again... Blah blah blah

Get a side agreement with the management to not punish this girls doing the good deed and all is good.

Then again, if all the birds in your office are garu... You are SOL.

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Postby Hijinx » Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:17 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:. I really don't think women belong in the workplace unless it's the sex industry.


That's like the most awsomeness thing I've ever read outside my own post, of course.
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'Super Cool Biz' fail?

Postby Hijinx » Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:11 pm

I mean it's hot and all, and sweaty balls do add to one's discomfort, but.....


35 year-old-man arrested for exposing himself to schoolgirls
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Police in Tokyo said Saturday that a 35-year-old man has been arrested after he was caught exposing himself in front of a young middle school-aged girl on a roadside in Edogawa Ward.

According to police, Akira Imazu, of Sumida Ward and an employee in the food and drink services industry, was charged with public indecency. TV Asahi reported that at around 8 a.m. on May 21, Imazu exposed himself in front of a young girl riding her bicycle to school.

Police said Imazu had cut a hole in the crotch of his pants before going out.


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Postby Russell » Tue Jun 03, 2014 6:11 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:I really don't think women belong in the workplace unless it's the sex industry.

Men being outperformed by women in workplace
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Postby IparryU » Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:46 am

Russell wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:I really don't think women belong in the workplace unless it's the sex industry.

Men being outperformed by women in workplace

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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:58 am

Russell wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:I really don't think women belong in the workplace unless it's the sex industry.

Men being outperformed by women in workplace


Men's performance is down because they have to deal with these cunts at the office.
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Samurai_Jerk wrote:
Russell wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:I really don't think women belong in the workplace unless it's the sex industry.

Men being outperformed by women in workplace


Men's performance is down because they have to deal with these cunts at the office.


:keyboardcoffee: damn SJ, you're such a comedian.

you are joking, aren't you?
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Postby wagyl » Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:02 pm

yanpa wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:
Russell wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:I really don't think women belong in the workplace unless it's the sex industry.

Men being outperformed by women in workplace


Men's performance is down because they have to deal with these cunts at the office.


:keyboardcoffee: damn SJ, you're such a comedian.

you are joking, aren't you?


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Postby Coligny » Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:46 pm

wagyl wrote:
Sometimes it is better to assume the best and not confirm.



Yet you are still posting (chinese saying and all...)
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Postby Russell » Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:38 am

Beat the summer heat by walking

Alternately walking fast and then more slowly is a good way to beat the summer heat, according to a university professor.

Prof. Hiroshi Nose of Graduate School of Medicine, Shinshu University, who devised this method of coping with the grueling summer, said that overall health should improve one week after starting the exercise and a loss of weight may be noticeable after two weeks.

However, before the summer heat wave rolls into town, it would be a good idea to build up a strong body to endure temperature changes before heading out into the street. Nose’s method has been well-received as it can be quickly and easily adopted.

He recommends five sets of three-minute walks, first fast and then more slowly, for a 30-minute total, at least four times a week. This should improve a person’s physical strength, he said.

Heatstroke occurs when body fails to properly release heat through such means as sweating and widening of blood vessels in the skin.

Nose said milk should be drunk right after the exercise as it improves liver function, which increases the volume of blood. In the case of a person older than 60, the effect can be seen in about eight weeks, he said.

“If a liver is compared to a car engine, blood is the radiator. With more blood, vessels in the skin widen more easily, enhancing functions that control body temperature,” the professor said.

About 900 elderly people practiced the walking method at the request of Jukunen Taiikudaigaku Research Center (Sport science university research center for senior citizens), a nonprofit organization in Matsumoto, Nagano Prefecture. Nose serves as vice president.

Participants visit local facilities once a month and receive guidance from instructors based on the data of pedometers that also calculate how many calories have been expended.

Ai Hashiba, 72, who has used this exercise method for nine years, makes a habit of drinking milk afterward. She said she did not suffer much from the summer heat. “I exercise by walking for 30 minutes every other day,” Hashiba said.

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Postby Coligny » Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:20 am

Was he recently laid of from a stem cell research lab ?
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