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Postby Mulboyne » Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:39 pm

Yomiuri: 10 yrs on, nation has yet to fully embrace 'the pill'
September marks the 10th anniversary of the start of birth control pill sales in Japan. How wide has their use become?...The number of users increased more than threefold from about 200,000 in 2001 to about 660,000 in 2009. But the ratio of users to the total population of women aged 16-49 still stands at 3 percent, far less than France's 44 percent, Britain's 26 percent and the United States' 18 percent. When Prof. Yuji Taketani of Tokyo University's Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology conducted a survey in which he asked women who had answered they "don't want to use [birth control pills]" or "won't use [them] under the current circumstances" to cite reasons for saying so, more than half of the respondents, or the largest portion, said they "are concerned about side effects"...The most worrisome side effect is thrombosis--the formation of a blood clot inside a blood vessel that obstructs the flow of blood through the circulatory system to cause stroke and heart attack. The birth control pill is used by healthy women for long periods, so its safety is, needless to say, extremely important. In foreign countries, the pill's merits are generally stressed over concern about side effects. If vague concern about side effects serves to hamper the prevalence of birth control pills, it is necessary to provide correct information...The birth control pill is also useful to ease the pain from menstrual cramps and endometriosis. Of Japanese women who use the pill, only about 30 percent do for contraception purposes, according to a survey...more...
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Postby IkemenTommy » Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:41 pm

No need, they aren't having sex [SIZE="1"][color="White"](unless of course she is with me...)[/color][/SIZE]
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Postby Greji » Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:42 pm

Mulboyne wrote:Yomiuri: 10 yrs on, nation has yet to fully embrace 'the pill'


You know I have often wondered about this "10 years since the introduction of the pill" bit. I can remember many, many moons before that awesome time frame that J-girls I knew were gobbling the pill and proceeding to do the neighborhood with impunity.

I can only assume that if they weren't available for sale, there was a huge blackmarket outlet, because I can remember seeing lots of the old circular type day calendar pill packages. This dates back to the 70's time frame.
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Postby IkemenTommy » Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:46 pm

Greji wrote:You know I have often wondered about this "10 years since the introduction of the pill" bit. I can remember many, many moons before that awesome time frame that J-girls I knew were gobbling the pill and proceeding to do the neighborhood with impunity.

I can only assume that if they weren't available for sale, there was a huge blackmarket outlet, because I can remember seeing lots of the old circular type day calendar pill packages. This dates back to the 70's time frame.
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On the contrary, I think Japan loves the whole dekikon idea instead. Hey, it entraps the man into a marriage plus it comes with some ugly ass kid on the side. It's like killing two birds with one stone!
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:42 pm

Yeah, I finally convinced my girl to go on the pill last year. Her friends act like she's playing Russian roullette.

As for the dekichatta kekkon thing, I'm surprised by just how many people I know here who've had them. It's not like this is some religious country where most people think abortion is a bad or controversial thing.
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Postby IkemenTommy » Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:46 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:As for the dekichatta kekkon thing, I'm surprised by just how many people I know here who've had them. It's not like this is some religious country where most people think abortion is a bad or controversial thing.

I think getting an abortion is just mendo kusai.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:55 pm

IkemenTommy wrote:I think getting an abortion is just mendo kusai.


As opposed to raising a mistake? :confused:
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Postby IkemenTommy » Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:27 pm

You have to remember, TIJ. They only plan 5 minutes ahead.
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Postby Mulboyne » Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:56 pm

Greji wrote:You know I have often wondered about this "10 years since the introduction of the pill" bit. I can remember many, many moons before that awesome time frame that J-girls I knew were gobbling the pill and proceeding to do the neighborhood with impunity.

I can only assume that if they weren't available for sale, there was a huge blackmarket outlet, because I can remember seeing lots of the old circular type day calendar pill packages. This dates back to the 70's time frame.
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1999 saw the approval of the low-dose oral contraceptive. Before that, Ono Pharmaceutical produced high dose pills but they were supposed only to be available for medical reasons when they came on the market in 1971. Doctors weren't especially strict about the "medical" reasons for prescribing them so they were pretty easily obtainable. However, they were regarded as risky so weren't generally popular except for women with genuine heavy menstrual cramps or gaijin boyfriends.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:02 pm

IkemenTommy wrote:You have to remember, TIJ. They only plan 5 minutes ahead.


I have to disagree with you there. These people over plan almost everything else.
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Postby IkemenTommy » Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:44 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:I have to disagree with you there. These people over plan almost everything else.

I know what you mean. I guess the extreme example on the other end would be the anally-retentive classic Asian type that have to carefully follow step by step... graduate from the university and get the first job by age 22, get married with the OL in the same company department by age 28 (via company go-kon and the consequent dekikon..), get your first "promotion" by age 32, pay off your home loan by 45, retire at age 60, put up with the shit the company throws at you until you pretty much die in vain.

Oh the joy of a typical J salaryman!!
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Postby Behan » Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:03 pm

IkemenTommy wrote:I know what you mean. I guess the extreme example on the other end would be the anally-retentive classic Asian type that have to carefully follow step by step... graduate from the university and get the first job by age 22, get married with the OL in the same company department by age 28 (via company go-kon and the consequent dekikon..), get your first "promotion" by age 32, pay off your home loan by 45, retire at age 60, put up with the shit the company throws at you until you pretty much die in vain.

Oh the joy of a typical J salaryman!!


I have met so many people like that. And the housewives who graduate from uni with an Mrs. degree, get into a company, marry in their mid twenties, quit their job, have kids, buy a house in the suburbs...
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Postby xenomorph42 » Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:58 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:As opposed to raising a mistake? :confused:


I remember when I first came to Japan back in 1999 many women were shocked when I told them that in the states and Europe the pill is a common birth control method. I didn't know at the time that in Japan the pill was outlawed! I year later when it was introduced, many hospitals and clinics weren't pushing it, on the contrary, many doctors were telling their female patients to NOT take the pill because of its adversed side effects, so women were on high panic mode for a long time. Besides, many women think that it's the man's responsibility to worry about contraceptives.

I always used to say that I'm allergic to Latex and they're too small! "Oh, well...guess that means, we gotta go bareback, but if I use the withdrawal method, nothing will happen, you have my word".:biggrin2:
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Postby IkemenTommy » Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:40 pm

It could be that Sagami is lobbying to ensure that their little-pecker condoms maintain a strong market share. I don't know.

The hottest gals I've ever been with were on the pill. Let me rephrase: the sluttiest and the dirtiest in bed. :drool:

BUT, I still maintain my virgin stance. :cool:
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Postby BO-SENSEI » Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:48 pm

xenomorph42 wrote: they're too small! "Oh, well...guess that means, we gotta go bareback, but if I use the withdrawal method, nothing will happen, you have my word".:biggrin2:



Can't remember how many times I have used that one, well still nothing has happened, knock on wood. But what I have heard from my ex is that girls don't like going on the pill because they believe it will increase birth-defects once they decide to have children.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:35 pm

Actually, it seems like pulling out is the preferred method of contraception here which is why there are so many dekichatta kekkon. I'm just surprised by how many people I've met in Japan who got married based on an accidental pregnancy after only a few months of dating.

xeno, contraception is considered to be solely the man's responsibility here in my experience too and unwanted pregnancies are the man's fault which is why he has to "do the right thing" and marry the girl he knocks up. :roll:
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:36 pm

BO-SENSEI wrote:Can't remember how many times I have used that one


Works till you get your pants off and they realize J-condoms are actually too big for you, right?
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Postby xenomorph42 » Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:51 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Actually, it seems like pulling out is the preferred method of contraception here which is why there are so many dekichatta kekkon. I'm just surprised by how many people I've met in Japan who got married based on an accidental pregnancy after only a few months of dating.

xeno, contraception is considered to be solely the man's responsibility here in my experience too and unwanted pregnancies are the man's fault which is why he has to "do the right thing" and marry the girl he knocks up. :roll:



Maybe because of those reasons, the overall population is dwindling down.
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Re: The Pill Not Popular With Japanese Women

Postby IparryU » Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:16 pm

So any recommendations? Need a place for tomorrow morning...
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Re: The Pill Not Popular With Japanese Women

Postby wagyl » Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:19 pm

IparryU wrote:So any recommendations? Need a place for tomorrow morning...

For a dekichatta kekkon?
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Postby J.A.F.O » Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:51 pm

wagyl wrote:
IparryU wrote:So any recommendations? Need a place for tomorrow morning...

For a dekichatta kekkon?


Haha how many gaijin I know who say "just ditch the country, they have universal health care here and an awesome welfare system" (regardless of how baseless this statement is)

Or are you looking for good love hotel recommendations?
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Re: The Pill Not Popular With Japanese Women

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:59 pm

wagyl wrote:
IparryU wrote:So any recommendations? Need a place for tomorrow morning...

For a dekichatta kekkon?


Maybe he's looking for an abortion clinic.
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Postby matsuki » Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:13 pm

For Kimuchee-chan or Ms. Natto?
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Postby IparryU » Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:29 pm

chokonen888 wrote:For Kimuchee-chan or Ms. Natto?

Ugh... last night and 3 days before? Last night is getting pill today, 3 days before.... never got the number or name :cool2:
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Re: The Pill Not Popular With Japanese Women

Postby kurogane » Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:49 pm

Are we talking contraceptive pills or remedial pills?

Do they even have the remedial pill in Japan (The Morning After Pill)? Something that would cut that deeply into industry profits must be far Too Dangerous for the delicate constitutions of those obliged to increase the surplus population.
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Postby matsuki » Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:16 pm

kurogane wrote:Are we talking contraceptive pills or remedial pills?

Do they even have the remedial pill in Japan (The Morning After Pill)? Something that would cut that deeply into industry profits must be far Too Dangerous for the delicate constitutions of those obliged to increase the surplus population.


They have both but something tells me the morning after is the more popular of the two...
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Postby kurogane » Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:57 pm

Aaaah. I always wondered why I had to provide that envelope full of cash only 2 days after the event. Happy as I was to buy her some peace of mind, of course. I think I even threw in some shoes and a Yakiniku dinner.
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Postby IparryU » Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:22 pm

kurogane wrote:Aaaah. I always wondered why I had to provide that envelope full of cash only 2 days after the event. Happy as I was to buy her some peace of mind, of course. I think I even threw in some shoes and a Yakiniku dinner.

its only like 10000 for the "better one". no need for an evelope
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Postby kurogane » Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:49 pm

Yeah, I was kidding about the envelope. That was about the amount if I remember. Pretty sure she didn't need it (I bat 1000), but her relief was worth twice that much. It was a real GF, after all.
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