French minister rips sumo & 'suffocating' Tokyo

[Shinigami]

Ooopppsss.

I must have triple clicked the "submit" button.

[Shinigami]

I would just love to see Mr. Sarkozy get down on all fours and tell it to this guy:



Yeah, go for it, big minister man!

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[Andocrates]

quality as the "unique" nipponese eyes.

I know that I'm going to be called a "racist" for asking such a question because in this PC world you can't even ponder a question like that without being called a "racist". You can call me what you like but I think this is a legitimate question.

First off, he's not Japanese - he's from Mongolia. Second, he's a freaking fighting machine. He would destroy you in a bar fight in a matter of seconds, would he be a fighter then? If you actually watched sumo instead of bashing it you would see his massive leg muscles snap into action, you would see him manhandle men who weigh 150-200 lbs more then him.

I'm sure he doesn't have as good a vision as you have but how is that relevent or reflect on him, or Asians in general?

[ramchop]

To make Yokozuna, you need to be Ozeki level and have one of two things happen:
[a] Normal circumstances: Tournament champion twice in a row
[b] You are a Japanese Ozeki, and the only Yokozuna is the widely despised Asashoryu: Win one tournament, and scrape by with sum of at least 25 wins over the current and previous tournaments, and they'll put you in as a Japanese Yokozuna.

So it could be another year until they get a second Yokozuna... unless of course they expel the Mongolian and so make it easier for the Japanese to win.

[Taro Toporific]

Ooopppsss.
oops:

France's Sarkozy denies derogatory remarks on sumo, Japan(Kyodo) - Jan 21, 9:51 am
French Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy, who has presidential ambitions, has denied making remarks denigrating sumo wrestling -- a passion of French President Jacques Chirac -- and other aspects of Japan, the Japanese ambassador in France said Tuesday....
Ambassador Hiroshi Hirabayashi, who was invited by Sarkozy to a lunch Tuesday, said the interior minister said the article contained conjecture by the reporter.
The ambassador said he told Sarkozy he accepted his denial of the alleged remarks and invited him to Japan so that he can better understand the country and help improve Franco-Japanese relations.
... According to Hirabayashi, Sarkozy remained low-key throughout the lunch and criticized what he called sensational reporting and conjecture about domestic politics in the media. The presidential race is set for 2007.
....The Paris Match reporter who accompanied Sarkozy on the trip told a radio program Tuesday that the quotes from Sarkozy in the report were accurate.



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[i The subtext of this whole tiff is that French Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy hates Jacques Chirac. And Chirac's a passion of other aspects of Japan is that he has a Japanese mistress and 22 year old son here.

[DUCK]

[Shinigami?]

QUACK!

[Taro Toporific]

[Shinigami]

First off, he's not Japanese

Well then if he is in fact a good "fighter" this would explain why.

He would destroy you in a bar fight in a matter of seconds

So he could beat me up. That's not saying much It sure as hell don't make him a real "fighter"

I'm sure he doesn't have as good a vision as you have but how is that relevent or reflect on him, or Asians in general?

Hey thanks for at least trying to answer my question. Also whert the hell did I say anything about "asians" in my post? I think you need to take a chill pill.

[cstaylor]

To make Yokozuna, you need to be Ozeki level and have one of two things happen:
[a] Normal circumstances: Tournament champion twice in a row
[b] You are a Japanese Ozeki, and the only Yokozuna is the widely despised Asashoryu: Win one tournament, and scrape by with sum of at least 25 wins over the current and previous tournaments, and they'll put you in as a Japanese Yokozuna.

So it could be another year until they get a second Yokozuna... unless of course they expel the Mongolian and so make it easier for the Japanese to win.

The expulsion may be closer than you think. Although my wife thinks he's just making mistakes, I think he's intentionally thumbing his nose at conservative Japan. It's like, "none of your boys can beat me, so you'll to find some other way to get rid of me."

He may be a jerk (from what I've heard from other wrestlers), but he's a damn good fighter.

[Shinigami]

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What do you mean "purile and ignorant" ??? It was a perfectly legitimate question. I don't see any reason for it to have been deleted

Oh well. Maybe I should have asked it more like this.


Do people with a very narrow opening between their upper and lower eye lids see things as clearly as those with a much wider opening?



I'm only curious because when I squint my eyes down as much as this "fighters" eyes appear to be open, I have difficulty seeing.

If I close my eyes even a little things quickly become very blurry. So when I saw this "fighters" picture it got me wondering and I thought I'd ask the question here (since this is where I saw the picture that got me thinking about it) to see if someone out there had any ideas....


Now I see nothing wrong with this question. Unless you're the type who's so sensitive that you think that anyone who could even ponder such a question must be a "RACIST" and therefore must be censored... I'm not a racist. I just want to know. Nothing wrong with that right? I mean the japanese have on many occasions asked me "does everything look blue through your blue eyes?"... Now that is a stupid question, but I'm willing to bet that if someone on this forum had posted that question here you wouldn't have replaced it with a snide little,,,,,,,,

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Would you?

[Watcher]

Not that the comment had to be removed... I mean we're all adults here and having such crap spewed with clear and obvious blindness only helps us all to recognize those who need help. Shin... you need help. How many pics do you got of yourself making squinty faces... maybe the guy's just been asked a tough question... maybe a nerve in his back was just pinched... do you ask that to explain his squinting eyes? No. You go for the lame attack on your hosts here. And then, after the moderator has had the decency and kindness to protect yo sorry dumb ass by hiding your foolishness, go about posting the crap again. Dood, drop it.

[kamome]

Shinigami:

Comments that smack of racism (or pure, unmitigated stupidity) are grounds for expulsion. You have been warned.

[Shinigami]

Shinigami:

Comments that smack of racism (or pure, unmitigated stupidity) are grounds for expulsion. You have been warned.

See, just like I said. No one can even ponder such a question without being labeled a " stupid racist" and threatened with "expulsion" from the forum. It's truly sickening

BTW. Could you please explain what is so "stupid" about the question?

Yes the guy may be squinting for what ever reason and his eyes might be much wider when he's relaxed but we have all seen a lot of Asians who have very narrow eyes even when relaxed. Has the question never entered your mind? And if it did. Does that mean that you're a "racist" or just wondering about something? Sheeesh Did you ever wonder if blacks could get sunburned? I did when I was a kid. So to find out the answer I asked a black friend of mine. And he said "yes but it takes a lot longer" . I got my answer and he didn't stoop to calling me a "stupid racist".

It's truly pathetic the way people just love to throw that word around.

PS. You say that I've "been warned". Does this mean that you are a moderator and are giving me a warning? If so please let me know. I will then consider myself warned. Thank you.

[Shinigami]

Never mind about my "racist" question everyone. I think I've found a more appropriate place to ask it,

http://www.fuckedgaijin.com/forums/showthread.php?p=39413#post39413

over on the "Beyond F*cked" forum.

Maybe I wont get threatened with "expulsion" over there. Shheeeeesh.

[Andocrates]

[Taro Toporific]

[Taro Toporific]

Get over it nippon. You're not nearly as great as you think you are

Oh, ya gotta love this...


Bad boy Asashoryu has sumo world worriedjapantoday > shukan post watcher / Jan 22
...Asashoryu, the Mongolian-born sumo grand champion, can't seem to shake off his bad-boy image. There is even a prevailing rumor that he might be turning to the world of K-1....
.....Asashoryu is now widely recognized as skating on thin ice. Japan Sumo Association (JSA) official Tsuneo Watanabe declared that Asashoryu will have to fall in line or face forced retirement.... Most people think Asashoryu has been spoiled too much. He also refuses to be naturalized,

[cstaylor]

Asashoryu will have to fall in line or face forced retirement

Can't beat him in the ring, so snipe at him for his lack of proper respect.

[bejiita]

You should "try" translating" it for Japanese friends: it's damn tough without visual aids ....Watch a Flash version in 8-bit glory...
http://www.cybermoonstudios.com/8bitDandD.html

Ah, now that was classic. The sad thing is if you replace D&D with Yu-Gi-Oh or Digimon, it's the same thing.

[ramchop]

Can't beat him in the ring, so snipe at him for his lack of proper respect.

Kick him out... gotta make room for the new recruits from the special school:
http://www.kindofcrap.com/sumofight.mov

Every morning when I wake up I like to lay there for a bit and think of how my day will go, but whenever I have the special school now I just give up. After all, there's not really any point when it somehow manages to consistently throw me curveballs by landing me in situations that no one in their right mind could ever reasonably anticipate. But I guess I'm used to it now, as these days I barely blink an eye as I rationalize the situation away in the time it takes to think one simple sentence like [i]Okay, I am now going to climb into a sumo suit and wrestle retarded people]

[Taro Toporific]

Asashoryu will have to fall in line or face forced retirement

Can't beat him in the ring, so snipe at him for his lack of proper respect.

Asashoryu finishes with 15-0 record
Japan Today, Jan 25
... mark his 15th straight victory on the final day of the New Year Grand Sumo...

[jez]

Hi,

I'm french.
This is pure political bullshit. You may not know that french president Chirac is a big fan of japanese arts and culture.
Interior Minister Sarkozy is just mocking President Chirac by saying this because he wants to take part to the next polls in France.
There was another french Premier Ministre Edith Cresson who said japanese people were just ants.

Unfortunately lots of french people are stupid when it comes to undertanding other countries people or lifestyle...

yours,

merci d'avoir mis les pendules a l'heure-thanks for setting things straight. Sarkozy is an oportunistic twit. French politics is beginning to look like american politics.
As for Chirac, I guess he probably does have an interest in japanese art and culture, which must be the reason he proposed that Kyoto should have a parisian bridge in the heart of Pontocho, the historical neighbourhood...

[jez]

Asashoryu will have to fall in line or face forced retirement

Can't beat him in the ring, so snipe at him for his lack of proper respect. :roll:

the fact is that there are codes in Sumo(as in other japanese sports, probably). It may differ from 'our' way of thinking, but then we are not Japanese, are we?

[cstaylor]

the fact is that there are codes in Sumo(as in other japanese sports, probably). It may differ from 'our' way of thinking, but then we are not Japanese, are we?

The sumo association knew he was a hothead before they promoted him. Those codes are applied before you give someone a promotion.

I think this tournament showed that Asashoryu is capable of beating the Ozeki (when he made his fast-track promotion to Yokozuna, most of the Ozeki were injured, so he got a free pass when it came to winning two tournaments in a row), but I think the way he became champion without facing the other wrestlers will haunt him for a while.

[kamome]

I think this tournament showed that Asashoryu is capable of beating the Ozeki (when he made his fast-track promotion to Yokozuna, most of the Ozeki were injured, so he got a free pass when it came to winning two tournaments in a row), but I think the way he became champion without facing the other wrestlers will haunt him for a while.

I saw Asashoryu beat Chiyotaikai at the tournament on Saturday. Asashoryu looked good beating the "Great White Hope" of Japanese sumo. There were some other incredible matches, including one where the wrestlers spun around in several 360 degree turns like doing a pirhouette before one of them got jettisoned from the dohyo. I even got pictures (illegally) from beside the dohyo during a match.

Then I went home and found that the fg gf formatted the memory card on my digicam. D'oh!!

[cstaylor]

I think this tournament showed that Asashoryu is capable of beating the Ozeki (when he made his fast-track promotion to Yokozuna, most of the Ozeki were injured, so he got a free pass when it came to winning two tournaments in a row), but I think the way he became champion without facing the other wrestlers will haunt him for a while.

I saw Asashoryu beat Chiyotaikai at the tournament on Saturday. Asashoryu looked good beating the "Great White Hope" of Japanese sumo.

Chiyotaikai and Tochiazuma are too flawed as wrestlers to make Yokozuna (no matter how much the crowds want a replacement for Takanohana). Chiyotaikai has no other move besides tsupari (push push!), and Tochiazuma is not strong enough to make up for his lack of speed.

Did you see Kokkai? He's the Georgian wrestler who's doing very well. How about Takamisakari?