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PC memory upgrade...usb hard discs any good?

Postby blackcat » Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:04 pm

well the ol PC is a bit old now, running XP pro, but with all the games I`ve bought, and other junk taking up space i need more memory...HD type...I heard you can buy HD drives using a usb connection....could be good as i may be able to use it with another PC when i buy one :?

anyone know of these..or should I put another Disc internal?
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Re: PC memory upgrade...usb hard discs any good?

Postby Big Booger » Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:38 pm

blackcat wrote:well the ol PC is a bit old now, running XP pro, but with all the games I`ve bought, and other junk taking up space i need more memory...HD type...I heard you can buy HD drives using a usb connection....could be good as i may be able to use it with another PC when i buy one :?

anyone know of these..or should I put another Disc internal?


Depends on if your Motherboard USB is 1.1 or 2.0. If it is the former, get an internal drive, if it is the later, then why not? You can use it anywhere and it is portable.

You could add a USB 2.0 or even a combo USB 2.0 and Firewire 800 PCI card to the computer..

I would say if you want ultra portability and you cherish quietness to get a laptop HDD and a laptop USB case enclosure. There is usually no external power supply need it runs of the USB power. And there are not internal fans. Quiet as a mouse.

I have a 3.5" HDD enclosure and a 200GB HDD, it has external power, and an internal fan.. it sounds like an Apache attack helicopter.

Just some advice.
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Postby Ketou » Sun Sep 19, 2004 12:00 am

Why don't you just get a normal ATA and run it as a slave.
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Postby Socratesabroad » Sun Sep 19, 2004 3:06 am

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming...
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Postby Big Booger » Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:21 am

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Postby Socratesabroad » Sun Sep 19, 2004 11:00 am

Big Booger wrote:20GB for a laptop is well, tiny. As now you can pick up one well over 60GB and at 7200 rpm for under 2man:


Sorry, I probably should have been clearer.

I'm fully aware of the size limitations on laptop drives - I removed the 40GB HD on my laptop the first night I brought it home and put in an 80GB HD.

But the external 20GB drive (the small kind, laptop type) I referred to was from the start intended purely for portability when taking data to/from work. The drive was never intended for use in a laptop, and 4-5 years ago when I bought it, it far outdid flash memory in terms of size and was small enough to fit in a jacket pocket.
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Postby blackcat » Sun Sep 19, 2004 11:47 am

BigBooger and Socratesabroad

thanks very much for the advice :D You guys know much more than I do, sorry I just got the basics really.

I mainly need reliable storage space, more size is an acceptable sacrifice for portablity...BB those links looked interesting. thanks.

correct me if I`m wrong flash memory is mainly for games, surfing etc. and different to HD mem.??

I suppose I will just use this drive for storage and some access...more memory the better. It sounds like there are some good, reliable usb types around!!
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Postby Big Booger » Sun Sep 19, 2004 2:09 pm

If size is all that matters, and your motherboard doesn't support SATA (serial ATA), then I'd get this ATA IDE drive:

250GB IDE HDD

It's the best bang for the buck in my opinion. 7200RPM, 8MB cache, 8.9ms seek time and 250GB of storage space.

Install it as a slave drive in your system.

They make a larger 300GB drive but it's $50 more and runs at 5400RPM which is slower than 7200rpm which in turn tacks on 1.1 more ms of seek time.

300GB model

I'd get the largest and fastest drive you can afford. If your mobo supported SATA, I would even suggest a WD Raptor 10,000RPM model, which is quite suited for gaming.

Flash memory can be used for all sorts of things. It is typically more expensive byte for byte than a hard disk storage solution.

And commercial products AFAIK go up to 4GB at the moment. But at $600 for 4GB of storage it is quite expensive:

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HDD memory is for storage of the OS, browsing cache, and all of that. As for RAM, it pre-caches information that is to be sent to the CPU for processing.

Flash memory is usually in a stick or cartridge form. It is used for file transfers mainly like from a digital device to a PC.

At the link below you can find out more about the different types of memory:

http://computer.howstuffworks.com/flash-memory.htm
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Postby Socratesabroad » Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:07 pm

Yeah, what BB said.
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Postby blackcat » Tue Sep 21, 2004 10:31 pm

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slow to reply, but thanks very much for that and the links...very much appreciated. 8)
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