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A bear left to die in deep shit

Postby Taro Toporific » Thu Nov 04, 2004 10:03 pm

Image Bear trapped in garbage left to die
(Mainichi Shimbun, Japan, Nov. 4, 2004)
SHUNAN, Yamaguchi --
A bear found trapped in a garbage disposal hole will be left to die because it is already too weak to save.
Tokiyo Terato, a 76-year-old woman from Shunan, Yamaguchi Prefecture, found the bear at about 8 a.m., Thursday, stuck in the 2-meter-deep garbage hole ....
....The bear was floating in water and garbage in the 1.5 by 5-meter hole with a 35-centimeter opening.
Believing it was too late to save the bear, the officials plan to leave it to die.
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Postby Ketou » Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:38 pm

As much as I love this country I honestly wonder where the f*cked gaijin I am sometimes.

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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:38 am

Why not at least shoot it and put it out of its misery?
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Japanese feel that nature should take it's course.

Postby Taro Toporific » Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:09 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Why not at least shoot it and put it out of its misery?


Ok, let me explain the Japanese point of view since I serve as "Doctor Death" out on my farm village in Shikoku.

As a practical matter, Japanese do not have the "put it out of its misery" value because nobody wants to do the deed.

Japanese see putting down sick AIDS kittens etc. as "cruel" and feel that nature should take it's course. Having said that, most families around may farm will make it known to me that that have an animal in misery and that they are deeply worried by that suffering. As a gaijin, I can offer a solution that nobody else could even state, let alone do.
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Re: Japanese feel that nature should take it's course.

Postby Bongo » Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:46 am

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Postby Taro Toporific » Fri Nov 05, 2004 12:05 pm

Bongo wrote:In fact it is quite the opposite, animals used in commercials here are often put down after they finish the commercial..



Hey that's a "good" one Bongo and I can believe it. It sounds just like the mindset of folks working a Dentsu subcontract.

Generally cats are dumped, not killed, but a subcontractor would not risk being caught dumping cats. {There have been serval exposes' on commercial pet dumping on TV in recent years.)

BTW: NHK TV showed the bear in sewer last night's news. It was a small bear less than 30kg hardly able to hold it's head up.
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Re: Japanese feel that nature should take it's course.

Postby Charles » Fri Nov 05, 2004 12:27 pm

Bongo wrote:In fact it is quite the opposite, animals used in commercials here are often put down after they finish the commercial.

And sometimes, the animals get even. Remember a story from a few months back about the guy who illegally kept a tiger caged up in shabby conditions, to rent to commercial producers? At feeding time, he turned his back for just a second, and the tiger lunged and eviscerated him.

Anyone besides me ever read "Nametoko yama no kuma?"
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Postby Bongo » Fri Nov 05, 2004 12:37 pm

Yeah, those tossers in Yamaguch could at least put a tree stump in the hole and give the thing a chance.
I have half a mind to ring the city office there and tell them, foreigners are campaigning on the web to prevent tourists from visiting their area because of their lack of consideration for wild life.
Anyone know the city office number there and the exact area where this bear is?
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Postby Bongo » Fri Nov 05, 2004 12:46 pm

Just called the Shimin center which is in Shunan city office and told them that
campaigning is taking place to inform tourists of the cruilty of this case in Yamaguchi and it will severly damage the name of the prefecture which has lots of nature watchers visiting every year.
The guy freaked, and is finding the person in charge right now and I have to call back in 15 mins. Will post their comments.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Fri Nov 05, 2004 1:01 pm

Bongo wrote:...campaigning is taking place to inform tourists of the cruilty of this case.
The guy freaked, and is finding the person in charge right now and I have to call back in 15 mins. Will post their comments.
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Be sure to mention that there's quit a bit of video footage of this bear on TV floating around and that frame grabs of that video is gonna start showing up in the foreign press (it's not true, but hey don't know it).:twisted:
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Postby Bongo » Fri Nov 05, 2004 1:06 pm

Sure will.
Hey Taro, you think I should post the name of the guy in charge and the phone number after I talk to them in a few mins, if they jerk me off, which is highly likely? Perhaps other would like to voice their concern as potential foreign nature loving visitors to Yamaguch prefecture.
Some bigger pics may help if they ask where this is taking place on the web.
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Postby Bongo » Fri Nov 05, 2004 1:35 pm

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Postby Captain Japan » Fri Nov 05, 2004 1:40 pm

Bear stories all over the papers today.
Today's Asahi Shimbun...
POINT OF VIEW/ C.W. Nicol: Think about why bears come out of forests
For the past 24 years of living in Kurohime, Nagano Prefecture, I have been saddened and often dismayed at the destruction of nature and the results this destruction is having ... the trapping and killing of bears, for example.

Bears are the epic animal of Japan's forest environment. Wild bears in natural forests are a huge asset. We must really understand why they come out of the forests. Our community has been greatly troubled this year because one man died from a bear attack.

Today's Mainichi...
Bad harvests linked to bear attacks
An increasing number of bears are being spotted in towns hunting for food because their natural ecosystems have been damaged by a series of typhoons, a government survey has shown.

The Forestry Agency carried out an emergency survey in mid-October following a spate of bear attacks and sightings in residential areas across Japan.
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Postby Bongo » Fri Nov 05, 2004 2:51 pm

Now, had it been El-Chino Fujimori in that hole.
I would have pissed on him and thrown acorns all around him!
Hey, bears should have a little meat in their diet!
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sat Nov 06, 2004 11:55 am

Yeah, I don't know why you guys are bitching. Fuck, it was probably your call that got the bear shot. Anyway, if it really was too weak to save then shooting it was the right thing to do.
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Postby Bongo » Sat Nov 06, 2004 12:07 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Yeah, I don't know why you guys are bitching. Fuck, it was probably your call that got the bear shot. Anyway, if it really was too weak to save then shooting it was the right thing to do.


Oh, Yeah. Eh, just how do you work that out?
The bear was shot on the 4th but not publicized.
The call was made on the 5th.
Fucking Idiot.
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Postby Charles » Sat Nov 06, 2004 12:35 pm

Jeez guys, chill out. I think it's time for me to tell you the story "Nametoko yama no kuma," which IIRC dates back to Edo times, which might give you all some cultural perspective on the situation. I haven't read it in years, but I remember it vividly enough to give you the main points. If you want to look it up, it's in one of those translated compilations, Keene or Seidensticker or someone like that translated it, it's one of my favorite pieces of Japanese literature.

The story starts with the story of a hunter, a poor man with a large family that lives in poverty at the base of Nametokoyama, he has to hunt for bear meat to feed his family through the winter. He stalks a bear, and shoots it with an arrow, fatally wounding it. As the bear lies dying, he comes up to it and says, I have no ill will towards bears, but this is our relationship in this world, I am the hunter and you are the prey, and by giving your life, you will sustain me and my family, so surely you have sacrificed on our behalf, and have gained great karma for your next life.
The next season, the hunter is again on Yametokoyama. He stalks his prey, and just as he is about to loose his arrow, from behind him, another bear rushes up and slashes his throat with his claws. As the hunter lies bleeding to death, the bear comes up to him and says, I am a bear and you are my prey, I hold no ill will towards you, but this is our relationship in this world. Your flesh will sustain me and my cubs through the harsh winter, so surely you have sacrificed on our behalf, and have gained great karma for your next life.
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Postby Big Booger » Sat Nov 06, 2004 1:28 pm

Why don't they just dump a sheetload of acorns in the bear region? That would take care of them coming into town to hunt for gomi...
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sat Nov 06, 2004 1:33 pm

Bongo wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:Yeah, I don't know why you guys are bitching. Fuck, it was probably your call that got the bear shot. Anyway, if it really was too weak to save then shooting it was the right thing to do.


Oh, Yeah. Eh, just how do you work that out?
The bear was shot on the 4th but not publicized.
The call was made on the 5th.
Fucking Idiot.


Well, tough guy, the order of your posts didn't exactly make that clear. And no I don't read the little dateline at the top of each one. I don't know why you're getting so worked up. But keep talking shit over the internet. It makes you seem hard.

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Postby AssKissinger » Sat Nov 06, 2004 3:01 pm

Stomp a mudhole in his ass Sammy!
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Postby Bongo » Sat Nov 06, 2004 3:42 pm

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Postby Bongo » Sat Nov 06, 2004 3:46 pm

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Postby dimwit » Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:01 am

Big Booger wrote:Why don't they just dump a sheetload of acorns in the bear region? That would take care of them coming into town to hunt for gomi...
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Better still, set up town dumps rather burning all the garbage. Bears love landfill. :luv3:
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:06 am

I say reduce the population by turning kuma-sashi into the latest culinary rage. Just convince Japanese guys that raw bear nards increase sexual stamina.
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Postby Charles » Sun Nov 07, 2004 1:11 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:I say reduce the population by turning kuma-sashi into the latest culinary rage. Just convince Japanese guys that raw bear nards increase sexual stamina.

You're a little late with this idea. Bear gall bladders are widely used throughout Asia as an aphrodisiac.
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Postby Bongo » Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:55 pm

Charles wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:I say reduce the population by turning kuma-sashi into the latest culinary rage. Just convince Japanese guys that raw bear nards increase sexual stamina.

You're a little late with this idea. Bear gall bladders are widely used throughout Asia as an aphrodisiac.


Yeah, this guy is a little late with everything, including his apology.LOL :lol: :lol: :lol:
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The New York Times paints a darker picture

Postby Taro Toporific » Sun Nov 07, 2004 9:33 pm

Number of bears explodes in Japan
Rash of attacks incites concern

The New York Times / Sun, Nov. 07, 2004 / by James Brooke
SHARI, Japan -

...This fall, rural Japan, with its aging, shrinking population, is peering with increasing nervousness into the deep, dark woods. A bear population that is expanding in numbers and range, increasingly cranky after a record number of typhoons have ruined the acorn harvest - a major source of food - is glaring back...
.....in Shari, a coastal tourist village on the edge of Shiretoko National Park, the bear-human drama is playing out intensely.... this 188-square-mile park on the northern tip of Japan's northernmost main island, Hokkaido, has one of the world's densest bear populations, about one bear per square mile.
Toshiki Aoi, a wildlife management professor at Iwate University, points to the depopulation of Japan's countryside. Since 1960, the number of Japanese farm workers has dropped to 2.2 million from 12 million. The average age of farmers is now 60.
...Aoi painted a tableau of humans losing their grip on traditional landscapes, a loss of control marked by the decline in hunting, logging and fruit picking.
"It is so quiet now in villages where children playing and dogs barking used to be daily life scenes," he wrote.
"Now trees with fruits and berries are left without being harvested, or fruits are dumped. It's just like inviting bears, saying, 'Please come down from deep mountains and feel free to taste delicious food in the village.'"
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