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how-to record on your ipod (for free)

Postby Failsafe » Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:17 am

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Re: how-to record on your ipod (for free)

Postby FG Lurker » Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:30 am

Damn useful tip!

I'd read about being able to put Linux onto an iPod but never figured it'd be useful. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Re: how-to record on your ipod (for free)

Postby Charles » Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:57 am

Failsafe wrote:..you can record at high quality, all for free.

It only records in mono.
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Mono recording only is what Apple intended

Postby Taro Toporific » Wed Jan 05, 2005 10:42 am

Charles wrote:
Failsafe wrote:..you can record at high quality, all for free.

It only records in mono.


For podcasting and concert recording, the 96kHz "better" quality is good-nough since one's microphone spread is piss poor for stereo recording in the field. Mono recording only is what Apple intended in order to keep the recording industry off its back, so Podzilla based recording allows a person to totally justify the legality of this use.

Saaaa, not that any this will work on my 1st Gen iPod.:(


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http://www.ipodlinux.org/index.php/Podzilla

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Re: Mono recording only is what Apple intended

Postby Failsafe » Wed Jan 05, 2005 10:53 am

Taro Toporific wrote:
Charles wrote:
Failsafe wrote:..you can record at high quality, all for free.

It only records in mono.


For podcasting and concert recording, the 96kHz "better" quality is good-nough since one's microphone spread is piss poor for stereo recording in the field. Mono recording only is what Apple intended in order to keep the recording industry off its back, so Podzilla based recording allows a person to totally justify the legality of this use.

Saaaa, not that any this will work on my 1st Gen iPod.:(


For more info
http://www.ipodlinux.org/index.php/Podzilla

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Noted and noted!

I thought this was a great idea if you wanted to record you own dj sets, live performances and maybe a bit of karoke, i just found it a bit strange it wasn't included in the first place.
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Re: how-to record on your ipod (for free)

Postby NeoNecroNomiCron » Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:10 pm

Charles wrote:
Failsafe wrote:..you can record at high quality, all for free.

It only records in mono.

It seems you only output in Mono
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Re: Mono recording only is what Apple intended

Postby Charles » Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:57 pm

Taro Toporific wrote:For podcasting and concert recording, the 96kHz "better" quality is good-nough since one's microphone spread is piss poor for stereo recording in the field. Mono recording only is what Apple intended in order to keep the recording industry off its back, so Podzilla based recording allows a person to totally justify the legality of this use.

It's pretty obvious the iPod recording capability (which isn't that much different in PodLinux vs. the iMic gadget) is intended for voice recording. But I've seen pretty good portable mics that do stereo with good separation. I can even think of a few interesting scenarios where I would have used stereo as two channel recording. My teachers liked to make classroom tapes to transcribe for their research on student-teacher interaction, but it was always hard to get a good recording with the teacher facing the class, the teacher's voice came from 180 degrees opposite the students. The teacher could wear a lapel mic, put that into one channel, and a wide mic facing the students, put both mics into a little $2 Radio Shack channel splitter. I suppose you could do all that in mono with a mixer, but it's just a shame that it isn't all in one neat little iPod package.
Of course you could always get TWO iPods..
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Re: Mono recording only is what Apple intended

Postby FG Lurker » Wed Jan 05, 2005 1:20 pm

Charles wrote:It's pretty obvious the iPod recording capability (which isn't that much different in PodLinux vs. the iMic gadget) is intended for voice recording.

iMic is a device connected to a PC/Mac via USB. I think you mean iTalk.

As for differences, let's have a look:

iTalk: External Mic input, but no line in option
Hack: Mic or Line in

iTalk: 8kHz only. (Even a phone call is about 11kHz.)
Hack: Adjustable to various settings. This makes later conversion to CD (44.1 kHz) easier and higher quality.

iTalk: Supported by a large company.
Hack: Not supported, could in theory kill your iPod

iTalk: US$39.99 + shipping
Hack: Free with a bit of time investment

So, apart from them both being mono-only and both being microphones, I don't see a whole lot similar.

Charles wrote:I can even think of a few interesting scenarios where I would have used stereo as two channel recording. My teachers liked to make classroom tapes to transcribe for their research on student-teacher interaction, but it was always hard to get a good recording with the teacher facing the class, the teacher's voice came from 180 degrees opposite the students. The teacher could wear a lapel mic, put that into one channel, and a wide mic facing the students, put both mics into a little $2 Radio Shack channel splitter.

Recording each side of a conversation into separate channels will drive most people insane on playback. You'd need to mix them after recording anyway. May as well either do it in mono with two mics or get a microphone that records better from multiple directions.
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Postby fatslug » Wed Jan 05, 2005 1:26 pm

I ll just stick to my MD long play recordings......

QUALITY = FUCKEN SPLENDID !

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Postby FG Lurker » Wed Jan 05, 2005 1:42 pm

fatslug wrote:I ll just stick to my MD long play recordings......

QUALITY = FUCKEN SPLENDID !

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I think it depends on what you have. I have a 2nd generation 40GB iPod. Got it free! :D I don't have a minidisc recorder or player, portable or otherwise.

While I don't have much call to record meetings etc, if I did the iPod would be great. I don't want to carry yet another gadget around with me, I have enough to deal with already -- keitai, PDA, iPod... Often an SLR, sometimes a notebook... I don't want any more!!
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Re: Mono recording only is what Apple intended

Postby Charles » Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:22 pm

FG Lurker wrote:Recording each side of a conversation into separate channels will drive most people insane on playback. You'd need to mix them after recording anyway. May as well either do it in mono with two mics or get a microphone that records better from multiple directions.

Well, that project wasn't for listening, it was strictly for transcription. Two channels would be good when you've got crosstalk, you could isolate one channel to hear it more clearly. But it's all hypothetical since I'm not involved with it anymore.
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Postby Charles » Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:28 pm

FG Lurker wrote:While I don't have much call to record meetings etc, if I did the iPod would be great. I don't want to carry yet another gadget around with me, I have enough to deal with already -- keitai, PDA, iPod... Often an SLR, sometimes a notebook... I don't want any more!!

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Postby NeoNecroNomiCron » Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:47 pm

FG Lurker wrote: sometimes a notebook... I don't want any more!!

Dont you need a pen for your note book?
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Postby FG Lurker » Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:52 pm

Charles wrote:
FG Lurker wrote:While I don't have much call to record meetings etc, if I did the iPod would be great. I don't want to carry yet another gadget around with me, I have enough to deal with already -- keitai, PDA, iPod... Often an SLR, sometimes a notebook... I don't want any more!!

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Is this humour Charles? A pretty lame attempt.
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Postby FG Lurker » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:06 pm

NeoNecroNomiCron wrote:
FG Lurker wrote: sometimes a notebook... I don't want any more!!

Dont you need a pen for your note book?

Nah, I use the electronic type. :) The 21st century pencil. ;)
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Postby NeoNecroNomiCron » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:12 pm

FG Lurker wrote:
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FG Lurker wrote: sometimes a notebook... I don't want any more!!

Dont you need a pen for your note book?

Nah, I use the electronic type. :) The 21st century pencil. ]
So how do you write on paper? With a stylus?
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Postby FG Lurker » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:47 pm

NeoNecroNomiCron wrote:So how do you write on paper? With a stylus?

Actually I like pens a lot and have a bit of a collection. :) But I avoid paper as much as possible. Hate the stuff, can never keep it organized.

In the ~3 years that I've worked for my present company I've cut our paper report output by about half. It's taken time to get people to accept the change, but I'm a pushy bastard and don't give up! :twisted:
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